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Bansheelinks 05-06-2005 06:01 PM

Kingdom of Heaven
 
Just saw it...........a good flick.........makes you think about how religious fanaticism evolves and its repurcussions.......its not your typical uber-triumphant flick that seems to be pumped out lately.......I think its more a movie that creates debate and makes you think about the reality of where religious extremism can lead to.

Bansheelinks 05-06-2005 06:03 PM

and yes, there were times in the movie that prompted me to think about Bush and his administration

Sly 05-06-2005 06:51 PM

I can't wait to go see it.

Bansheelinks 05-06-2005 06:55 PM

Its more a thought-provoking movie than a heroic, us vs. them, good vs. evil thing. It might leave some ppl who are used to that cold.

By the way, the chick in it, Eva Green I believe her name is, is just beautiful.

zzgundamnzz 05-06-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bansheelinks
Its more a thought-provoking movie than a heroic, us vs. them, good vs. evil thing. It might leave some ppl who are used to that cold.

By the way, the chick in it, Eva Green I believe her name is, is just beautiful.

You should watch that movie where she has a bunch of Sex Scenes. She's got a really nice rack :thumbsup

Anthony 05-06-2005 07:02 PM

Awesome to hear Bansheelinks!

I'm gonna check it out! :)

Platinum Lantern 05-06-2005 07:03 PM

From what I've heard the movie shows the story of the crusades from both sides
The Christians and The Muslims in an unbiased fashion.

I will probably take a look at it

pornguy 05-06-2005 07:04 PM

I can not wait to see it. But god only knows when it will come out here.

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern
From what I've heard the movie shows the story of the crusades from both sides
The Christians and The Muslims in an unbiased fashion.

I will probably take a look at it

Thats very true. Its also a good morality study............is it worth hanging on to what you feel are principles if thousands may go to their deaths because of it? When is it best to adjust this? Lots of interesting questions it raises.

As far as Muslims go in the treatment in the movie, it was very unbiased. They were not demonized. However, religious fanatacism in general was skewered, as of course it should be.

loverboy 05-07-2005 09:33 AM

very intense story that has a touch to one's soul

Mrs. Lenny2 05-07-2005 09:35 AM

We saw the movie last night. It was great.

Halcyon 05-07-2005 09:44 AM

I love the distinction in the movie between religion..and holiness.

Holiness defined in the film not by adhering to a religious doctrine, but by doing the right thing.

hova 05-07-2005 09:48 AM

It was a good movie, but it will never be a classic.

Spider64 05-07-2005 09:50 AM

Saw it today. Excellent movie. :)

neverlearn 05-07-2005 10:24 AM

ya ya ya...how were the fight scenes though...

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hova
It was a good movie, but it will never be a classic.

I'm not claiming its "Lord of the Rings" or "The Godfather" or "Shawshank Redemption"..........just that its a good film that provokes a lot of thought.

I think Ridley Scott accomplishes what he set out to do in it, and that is give an accurate portrayal of the psychology behind the Crusades and religious fanatacism. No its not Lord of the Rings but I think ppl. should still go and see it. Its entertaining and thought-provoking.

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 12:40 PM

oh yeah.........and the fight scenes were awesome

:thumbsup

project_naughty 05-07-2005 01:57 PM

I'm not going to go and see it because it does not represent what really happened.

It was dumbed down due to threats from certain Muslim groups.

If it was unbiased then I'd go and see it.

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 05:33 PM

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Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 05:34 PM

http://www.homunculus.com/profane/re.../green0033.jpg

Dalai lama 05-07-2005 05:35 PM

I'm going this week

Mr.Fiction 05-07-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project_naughty
I'm not going to go and see it because it does not represent what really happened.

It was dumbed down due to threats from certain Muslim groups.

If it was unbiased then I'd go and see it.

The movie was "dumbed down" because of threats from Christian groups as well.

You say you won't see a fictional movie because it's biased, but you probably watch Fox News. :1orglaugh

detoxed 05-07-2005 05:38 PM

the previews look good, we will see!

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 05:40 PM

GREEN SLAMS SCOTT FOR REMOVING HER SEX SCENES

Sexy actress EVA GREEN has slammed director RIDLEY SCOTT for removing most of the raunchy sex scene she had with screen hunk ORLANDO BLOOM from new movie KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Green enjoyed playing Bloom's lover PRINCESS SYBILLA in the film, but was devastated to discover Scott had deleted "the best bits" because he deemed them too shocking.


http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlf...sex %20scenes

Bansheelinks 05-07-2005 05:43 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309987/

Apparently Eva Green gets very naked and raunchy in "The Dreamers"........the Bertolucci film

Might have to rent it

:thumbsup

project_naughty 05-07-2005 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
The movie was "dumbed down" because of threats from Christian groups as well.

You say you won't see a fictional movie because it's biased, but you probably watch Fox News. :1orglaugh

I don't watch Fox News because I don't get it where I live, nor do I watch much TV anyway.

The film was dumbed down because of threats from Muslim groups.
The Crusades were endeavours to retake land taken by the Muslim jihads.
The overtone was religious (as was pretty much evertying else in those days).

When the Argentinians took over the Falkland Islands the British (my people) launched a "Crusade" to take them back. The only difference here was that religion was not involved. The concepts, however, remain the same - the retaking of land lost to conquest by an enemy.

I can understand how adult webmasters dislike Christianity, but I don't understand the downright hatred for that religion. In the great scheme of things, Christianity is the least of your worries. BTW I'm not Christian. I'm not religious at all. But I was born a Muslim.

Maybe your government should put Muslims in charge of the morality in your country, instead of Christians. Then see for how long you have a job, or even a life.

Manga1 05-07-2005 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
The Crusades were endeavours to retake land taken by the Muslim jihads.

The Crusaders never had that land to retake it. The Crusaders were foreign invaders. Nothing more, nothing less.

Mr.Fiction 05-07-2005 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project_naughty
Maybe your government should put Muslims in charge of the morality in your country, instead of Christians. Then see for how long you have a job, or even a life.

The problem is fundamentalists in either Christianity or Islam. You would not want to live in a country run by either.

project_naughty 05-07-2005 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manga1
The Crusaders never had that land to retake it. The Crusaders were foreign invaders. Nothing more, nothing less.

It didn't belong to the Europeans. But it did belong to Christians. Christianity back then was more like "one people".

It certainly wasn't there for the Muslims to take.

project_naughty 05-07-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
The problem is fundamentalists in either Christianity or Islam. You would not want to live in a country run by either.

I wouldn't want either.

But if I had to choose, I'd choose the Christians. As would you.

zzgundamnzz 05-07-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bansheelinks
GREEN SLAMS SCOTT FOR REMOVING HER SEX SCENES

Sexy actress EVA GREEN has slammed director RIDLEY SCOTT for removing most of the raunchy sex scene she had with screen hunk ORLANDO BLOOM from new movie KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Green enjoyed playing Bloom's lover PRINCESS SYBILLA in the film, but was devastated to discover Scott had deleted "the best bits" because he deemed them too shocking.


http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlf...sex %20scenes

Looks like Orlando Bloom got to bang her for free :disgust

sperbonzo 05-07-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bansheelinks
Thats very true. Its also a good morality study............is it worth hanging on to what you feel are principles if thousands may go to their deaths because of it? When is it best to adjust this? Lots of interesting questions it raises.

As far as Muslims go in the treatment in the movie, it was very unbiased. They were not demonized. However, religious fanatacism in general was skewered, as of course it should be.

Did it explore the aspect of the 10s of thousands of Jews that were slaughtered on their way through Europe to the holy land, or was that part ignored?

Manga1 05-07-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project_naughty
It didn't belong to the Europeans. But it did belong to Christians. Christianity back then was more like "one people".

It certainly wasn't there for the Muslims to take.

Actually it belonged to the Eastern Christians who were very different from the Western Christians. Christianity was actually more like two people, since the Great Schism had already occured dividing the church into two. The Crusaders were foreign invaders to both the Muslims and the Eastern Christians, since during the fourth crusade the Crusaders actually attacked and plundered Constantinople, the capitol of Eastern Christianity. Not very Christian of them.

Do not fall into the trap of glorifying the Crusaders. For the most part they were nothing more than bands of barbarian, uneducated thugs. The Eastern Christians and the Muslims were civilized scholars by comparison.

Pleasurepays 05-07-2005 06:51 PM

i just watched this today... great movie in my opinion.

nnweb 05-07-2005 07:02 PM

are these her?

http://www.1001famosas.com/famosas1/...evagreen05.jpg
http://www.1001famosas.com/famosas1/...evagreen01.jpg
http://www.1001famosas.com/famosas1/...evagreen09.jpg

sperbonzo 05-07-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Did it explore the aspect of the 10s of thousands of Jews that were slaughtered on their way through Europe to the holy land, or was that part ignored?


I'm taking from the lack of response, that the answer is; Yes, this aspect of the Crusades was ignored.....

Pleasurepays 05-07-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
I'm taking from the lack of response, that the answer is; Yes, this aspect of the Crusades was ignored.....

it was not a movie about the crusades.

you suck at baiting people.

pxxx 05-07-2005 09:39 PM

I heard that it was a good movie.

Halcyon 05-07-2005 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
it was not a movie about the crusades.

you suck at baiting people.

Exactly. Its not a movie about the crusades.

I loved it. Ridley Scott is good at hitting powerful themes inside grand settings.

iwantchixx 05-08-2005 12:40 AM

I sooooooo want to see that movie


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