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MetaformX 05-06-2005 10:35 AM

StudioCash chooses Partnership over PPS model.
 
StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

BradShaw 05-06-2005 10:37 AM

Moves from PPS to Partnership generally mean death of a program.

Ask Xbangcash and others.

Rui 05-06-2005 10:41 AM

LOL after all your hype about how you understood the PPS game and all that you post this...

is this a joke?

MetaformX 05-06-2005 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
Moves from PPS to Partnership generally mean death of a program.

Ask Xbangcash and others.

Brad,

Any program owner who can not make money in a partnership program does not belong in business, regardless if it is adult or not. This is not a shot at Xbangcash, just my general opinion.

Rich 05-06-2005 10:43 AM

Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

bdld 05-06-2005 10:47 AM

i'd prefer pps, or at least the option to choose which one.

pornstar2pac 05-06-2005 10:49 AM

sig placement.

gonna be a long day here at GFY

Rich 05-06-2005 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
Brad,

Any program owner who can not make money in a partnership program does not belong in business, regardless if it is adult or not. This is not a shot at Xbangcash, just my general opinion.

Didn't you say the same thing about PPS two weeks ago? :winkwink:

Of course program owners can make money with a partnership program, there's no risk involved. It's paying per join that takes knowledge. The problem is getting people to promote a crummy recurring program with no PPS option. Brad didn't say anything about not being able to make money with a partnership platform, he said that when a program switches from PPS to revshare it's the beginning of the end, which couldn't be more true. Name 2 programs that have switched and then stuck around for more than a year.

Crypt 05-06-2005 11:08 AM

Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now? :upsidedow

Amputate Your Head 05-06-2005 11:12 AM

"XGAPE is the worlds #1 Anal site"

isn't that site brand new? When was the voting and who declared it #1? Who is #2?

TheJimmy 05-06-2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now? :upsidedow

you mean

AssylumN ? or is it AssylumX?

LOL!

Manowar 05-06-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?

I hear ya :disgust

Rich 05-06-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
Where is the legion of fake nicks regged in 2002 with 50 post count to back up your new revshare direction now? :upsidedow


On the way I'm sure.

MetaformX 05-06-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
LOL after all your hype about how you understood the PPS game and all that you post this...

is this a joke?

I do understand the PPS game, and guess what? I am telling you right now that I can make more money in a PPS model.

So why am I going with a Partnership model over a PPS when I know that I will make more money in PPS?

I can go with the PPS model and compete with 20 other rerally good PPS programs, or I can go into the partnership model which I consider to be fairly unsaturated as far as a big program is concerned.

Most partnership programs are usually specific niche sites or single girl sites, there are not that many large affiliate programs that are operating in the Partnership field.

My vision is to make StudioCash the best partnership program on the net. That is why I am going with partnership and PPS.

Also, I should say that we are not moving from a PPS model to a Partnership, we have never had a PPS model, but were contemplating it.

We are moving from an Active payout model to a Partnership.

MetaformX 05-06-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Can't you stop bullshitting your affiliates for a God damn second? You're doing this to make them more money, yeah everyone believes that.

You didn't test your sites and you don't have the capability to pay per join yet, and you realized no one wants to promote a "pay per active member" model because it's a ripoff unless the payout is $60+. There, it wasn't so hard to tell the truth now, was it?


No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model and that is why we are switching. Why don't you actually read the thread. I know you dn't like me for some reason Rich, it's quite apparent from all your posts in the past, but at least try and be a little unbiased.

You think I would spend that much money on creating StudioCash and not have any money to cover anything else?

Sly 05-06-2005 11:22 AM

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Crypt 05-06-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model (Insert more bullshit there) bla bla bla

They prolly asked you a REAL PPS model, not a revshare program.
The revshare decision is prolly only from you and your 200 fake nicks.

justsexxx 05-06-2005 11:29 AM

If you are sure you will make more with PPS, why not offer PPS AND revshare?

Dirty F 05-06-2005 11:33 AM

Man, i havent seen so much crap with a new program as this one. Fucking last year we had to read about the (fake) hype already. Guaranteed ratios, fake characters, 10 posts about price changes, pps to revshare, will this ever stop?
Fucking last year you said you were gonna pay out guaranteed on 1:200 or whatever and now you cant even manage to offer 25 dollars a sale. Go find a job, you suck at the intraweb.

Dirty F 05-06-2005 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
If you are sure you will make more with PPS, why not offer PPS AND revshare?


Stop asking difficult questions he cant answer without lying.

Rich 05-06-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
No, I do have the capability to do a PPS model, and I already told you that our webmasters do not like the pay per active model and that is why we are switching. Why don't you actually read the thread. I know you dn't like me for some reason Rich, it's quite apparent from all your posts in the past, but at least try and be a little unbiased.

You think I would spend that much money on creating StudioCash and not have any money to cover anything else?

I actually do like you, I don't think you're a bad guy at all. I just call it like I see it. I admit you lost a lot of my respect when you did the fake "test' threads, but I'm not just saying this to give you shit. You worked hard on your program, let it build slowly, don't try to force publicity by pulling lame stunts like you have. And in a thread like this, be honest, don't give us some shit about you being able to make more in PPS but you're doing partnership anyway. It's extremely important for programs to be honest, especially in a business where the affiliate has no choice but to take a program's word that it doesn't shave. I guarantee you loose a lot more affiliates than you gain/save every time you play with the truth to try to make yourself sound better. If you'd just be honest and let your program grow because your sites and convert and you're a strait shooter, eventually it will get where you want it to be. :2 cents:

Rich 05-06-2005 11:37 AM

See for the six people who believe what you're saying, 1000 realize you're just trying to save face. Everyone would rather have you just up front. You're trying to be the only large recurring program? I can't think of a large program that doesn't offer partnership.

Dirty F 05-06-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
I actually do like you, I don't think you're a bad guy at all. I just call it like I see it. I admit you lost a lot of my respect when you did the fake "test' threads, but I'm not just saying this to give you shit. You worked hard on your program, let it build slowly, don't try to force publicity by pulling lame stunts like you have. And in a thread like this, be honest, don't give us some shit about you being able to make more in PPS but you're doing partnership anyway. It's extremely important for programs to be honest, especially in a business where the affiliate has no choice but to take a program's word that it doesn't shave. I guarantee you loose a lot more affiliates than you gain/save every time you play with the truth to try to make yourself sound better. If you'd just be honest and let your program grow because your sites and convert and you're a strait shooter, eventually it will get where you want it to be. :2 cents:


I couldnt have said it better.

xxxice 05-06-2005 11:39 AM

Good move I don't like pps

Sly 05-06-2005 11:42 AM

Listen to Rich. He's right. Every couple months you come in and try to hype up your program with lies and propaganda. Why? Nobody else does this. The only program that ever came remotely close was Adult Players Club, and they were able to back-up every bit of "hype" given.

Why don't you just do it like everybody else does? Open your sites, start making money, gradually work your way to PPS. Telling us that affiliates make more with rev-share than PPS is absolute bull shit and you know it. Whenever given the option I ALWAYS take PPS because it ALWAYS makes me more money.

Rich 05-06-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Listen to Rich. He's right. Every couple months you come in and try to hype up your program with lies and propaganda. Why? Nobody else does this. The only program that ever came remotely close was Adult Players Club, and they were able to back-up every bit of "hype" given.

I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

Sly 05-06-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

They were a hosting company, not a program, but you're right. And they failed, for many more reasons than most people know.

JSA Matt 05-06-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
I hate to say this, but Like Whoa did it big time.

LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

Rich 05-06-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
They were a hosting company, not a program, but you're right. And they failed, for many more reasons than most people know.

Hey, don't forget All Liquid. I still have a (cheapass) T-shirt.

Sly 05-06-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt
LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

:1orglaugh

Um... no. Like I said, the Like Whoa story is quite interesting.

Rich 05-06-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt
LikeWhoa was a solid company for a while and lived up to the hype, they just had some bad apples

They were solid as long as the kid's dad was pumping in money to bankroll them. If by solid you mean servers that go down all the time and sites that won't convert to save your life.

JSA Matt 05-06-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
:1orglaugh

Um... no. Like I said, the Like Whoa story is quite interesting.

Well I was only involved with their hosting services and they were solid for us, until they stole our boxes

Rich 05-06-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt
Well I was only involved with their hosting services and they were solid for us, until they stole our boxes

Exactly, because they were taking your money and not paying their bandwidth bill. I'll admit they gave a good illusion of being solid to a lot of people.

Trax 05-06-2005 11:57 AM

thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY :)

MaDalton 05-06-2005 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY :)

that would be my way of understanding as well

Dirty F 05-06-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax
thread gone wrong lol

let me translate it:
If a program goes from PPS to revshare this means the sites suck, don't retain and don't make the owner any money... that means I would not even bother sending you traffic to the revsh solution either because they can not retain the surfer....

THAT EASY :)

Sounds about right.

whatif_3 05-06-2005 12:00 PM

with the facts on the table, thats a hard spin

takes balls

Rich 05-06-2005 12:15 PM

Let's just let this thread die and MetaformX can try again.

sandman! 05-06-2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.


you are full of shit you cant afford to pay the going rate for active memberships so you come out with this bullshit that a 50/50 split is better?
For who you who cant afford the going $40-$60 per active ?
Your a joke.

VeriSexy 05-06-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
StudioCash conversions have been nothing short of amazing so far, but with an Active member payout model, many of our webmasters have told us that they wanted something more.

So, after much testing and tweaking, and comparing of different payout models, we have decided that a 50/50 partnership would best serve our webmasters in the long run.

Of course there is a reason why most affiliate programs go with a PPS model and not a Partnership. The reason is because the PPS model makes the most money for the PROGRAM. It is a numbers game, and if done right, there is no doubt that PPS is more profitable. The numbers don't lie.

We however are taking a different approach. I want to create a partnership program that makes it quite evident and clear to the webmaster that he/she can make more money with a partnership program over a PPS.

I have a simple outlook on the difference between a partnership program and a PPS program. With a Partnership program, you are a partner. With a PPS program, you are an employee.

The smart webmaster who has a long term approach already knows that a partnership model is the smartest choice. You will make more money with a partnership, make no mistake about that, and my goal is to make StudioCash the best Partnership program on the net.

This is our Anal site xGape that you will be able to promote on a partnership

We will be releasing our Interracial site shortly.

Our move to the partnership model will take place next week.

It's getting harder and harder for everyone to make money.......... Not what it use to be :(


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