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  • Rinaldo
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 5086

    #1

    To Gfy

    I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
    I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
    I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

    Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

    I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

    Thank you
  • HarrytheNazi
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2005
    • 1164

    #2
    The 12 steps to recovery....

    Step 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

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    • StuartD
      Sofa King Band
      • Jul 2002
      • 29903

      #3
      wise decision.. very admirable
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      • Bugbee
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2004
        • 4609

        #4
        Good luck to you and whatever you decide to pursue!!!!!!

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        • Tanker
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2000
          • 9287

          #5
          good job rinaldo

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          • sweetums
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2003
            • 2534

            #6
            Now there's Rinaldo...
            A sincere apology can go such a long way. Admirable.
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            • Tango
              Let's Tango!
              • Apr 2005
              • 1570

              #7
              takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck
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              • Rinaldo
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2003
                • 5086

                #8
                Originally posted by Tango
                takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck
                I couldn't agree more.

                THanks Sweetums and Tanker

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                • Adultnet
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 8713

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                  wise decision.. very admirable
                  yep...indeed


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                  • brand0n
                    been very busy
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 26983

                    #10
                    ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

                    ahem, quit.

                    honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.
                    want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                    • Rinaldo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 5086

                      #11
                      Originally posted by brand0n
                      ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

                      ahem, quit.

                      honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.

                      WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?

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                      • brand0n
                        been very busy
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 26983

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rinaldo
                        WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?
                        i dont know why, you started with me remember? calling people fuck head and blah blah blah. dont act like you dont know wtf im talking about, icq dont forget you know...

                        glad plat bucks shook you off like a bad case of fleas.

                        aff reps now a days seem to forget that they represent a company, and that there actions reflect directly back to that company.
                        want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                        • Wizzo
                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 15224

                          #13
                          So when told me that I had "nice package" it was just the booze talking?
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                          • Phoenix
                            BACON BACON BACON
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 35475

                            #14
                            haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread


                            so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

                            Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

                            Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!
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                            • Yo Adrian
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                              • Apr 2002
                              • 6326

                              #15
                              Great thread.. taking responsibility for your actions and taking steps to rectify them is stand up bro.
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                              • brand0n
                                been very busy
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 26983

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Phoenix
                                haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread


                                so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

                                Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

                                Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!
                                eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

                                go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.
                                want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                • Tango
                                  Let's Tango!
                                  • Apr 2005
                                  • 1570

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                                  haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread
                                  or sometimes 2
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                                  • Rinaldo
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2003
                                    • 5086

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by brand0n
                                    eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

                                    go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.

                                    Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.

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                                    • brand0n
                                      been very busy
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 26983

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                      Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.
                                      riiiight
                                      so lets get this right. you attack people on message boards, then almost assult a couple models at a show. in front of some big players from what ive been told and youve been made employee of the week....

                                      sale that shit to someone else, as im not buying.
                                      want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                      • PeerPatrick
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 444

                                        #20
                                        nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
                                        though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

                                        that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.
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                                        • Wizzo
                                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                          • Nov 2000
                                          • 15224

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by brand0n
                                          eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

                                          go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.
                                          Regardless of what happened between you, I got to say your the one that's coming of as childish asshat in thread that Rinaldo is being a standup guy and trying right any perceived or actual wrongs...
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                                          • Rinaldo
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 5086

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PeerPatrick
                                            nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
                                            though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

                                            that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.
                                            Patrick that's an interesting way to look at things lol

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                                            • FuqALot
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 3817

                                              #23
                                              Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

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                                              • Rinaldo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 5086

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by FuqALot
                                                Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

                                                THanks

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                                                • Dwreck
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 7362

                                                  #25
                                                  RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

                                                  HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*
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                                                  • Rinaldo
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 5086

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Dwreck
                                                    RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

                                                    HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*

                                                    I didn't plan on staying lover boy, I made the decision once I got down here and saw what I'd been missing.
                                                    I owe you a lot more than a hug
                                                    Let me know if you got what I needed out of there. And let's do some business !

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                                                    • Odie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 7040

                                                      #27
                                                      awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!
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                                                      • Rinaldo
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                        • 5086

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Odie
                                                        awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!

                                                        Thanks Gorgeous.
                                                        Hit me up we have money to make together.

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                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 41470

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Rinaldo

                                                          Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.
                                                          ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.
                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                          • tASSy
                                                            Spread The Pink!
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 8229

                                                            #30
                                                            *hugs* and pink love rinaldo, best of luck to you in what's meant for you.

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                                                            • Wiggles
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • May 2004
                                                              • 14423

                                                              #31
                                                              best of luck rinaldo, not an easy thing to do.
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                                                              • Honez
                                                                Confirmed Brat
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 6636

                                                                #32
                                                                Let the healing begin.
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                                                                • Peter Romero
                                                                  Long time no happy ending
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 10602

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Congrats! Friend of Bill's? Me too.


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                                                                  • Rinaldo
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                    • 5086

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                    ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

                                                                    Sleazy did I tell you I have your poster on my wall?

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                                                                    • JFPdude
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 4027

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by POV Porn guy
                                                                      Congrats! Friend of Bill's? Me too.
                                                                      Bill who ... Bill W ???

                                                                      Never heard of him ... Btw I'm JFPDude and I'm an .... ahhh nm you get the drift.

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                                                                      • KRosh
                                                                        So Fucking Outlawed
                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                        • 5114

                                                                        #36
                                                                        You know what ..

                                                                        This is the first time I have read all this and found out what the hell happened in Phoenix..


                                                                        Rinaldo.. If that was my wife you did that to, I would have knocked every tooth out of your mouth no questions asked!!! Period.
                                                                        I just hope you thank your lucky stars that Stewie is a calm reasonable person!



                                                                        As for apologizing and blaming alcohol, I sure hope you are sincere. It sounds like you are. I don't see anything about you apologizing for your behavior at Myst In phoenix though!


                                                                        I have to agree with Sleazy regarding the "let's do some business" It is not the best time to make this comment.
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                                                                        • Stewie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                          • 3670

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                          I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
                                                                          I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
                                                                          I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

                                                                          Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

                                                                          I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

                                                                          Thank you
                                                                          Rinaldo,

                                                                          It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

                                                                          You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

                                                                          As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

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                                                                          • Sly
                                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                            • 31376

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Did alcohol make you post all of the rude comments and accusations after the "club night" as well, several days later?
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                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 41470

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                              Rinaldo,

                                                                              It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

                                                                              You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

                                                                              As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
                                                                              wow

                                                                              i didn't know what happened in phoenix but i know stewie and vanilla
                                                                              - they ARE solid good people that I have spent a lot of time with - and after reading that I can see why Rinaldo got fired.
                                                                              Last edited by SleazyDream; 04-29-2005, 06:17 PM.
                                                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                              • Jace
                                                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 35562

                                                                                #40
                                                                                sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

                                                                                i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be

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                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 35562

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  here we go, this sums it all up right here

                                                                                  Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                  you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
                                                                                  Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                  you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
                                                                                  Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                  you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
                                                                                  Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                  you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
                                                                                  Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                  you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

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                                                                                  • Cory W
                                                                                    Deeply shallow
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 9133

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Rinaldo,

                                                                                    You just don't get it. You got drunk, happens to the best of us, but you were fully aware of all your actions afterwards. I agree with Stewie.

                                                                                    I know both Vanilla and Stewie very well, and I can confidently say that it was your post-actions that led to your downfall. Say what you like, I hardly say a bad thing about anyone, do a search if you like.

                                                                                    Knowing both of them, they certainly are not ones to lie and you attempted to ruin their business credibility. And now you make a post looking for business?

                                                                                    You don't have my support.
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                                                                                    • MikeHawk
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 6683

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Well knowing what i know, and what i read here in this post, plus being sober over 16 years...recovery begins with being honest to yourself...

                                                                                      to thy self be true...


                                                                                      Hope this has a happy ending!
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                                                                                      • Vanilla DeVille
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                                        • 8097

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                        Rinaldo,

                                                                                        It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

                                                                                        You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

                                                                                        As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

                                                                                        Since Stewie is being nice and taking the high road, let me say this:

                                                                                        Last time, I asked Stewie not to go after you in the club... If you ever come near me again and I WILL PERSONALLY kick your pansy ass!! Stewie can have what's left.

                                                                                        P.S. This also goes if you touch any of my girlfriends!
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                                                                                        • S P A N N O W
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                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 11941

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Those of you who know me know that I don't party too hard at shows or events. The drama that results from uninhibited bad behavior is the reason why. I strive to show respect to everyone I deal with both professionally and personally. I wasn't at the Pheonix Forum, nor do I know what happened. But I do know Stewie and Vanilla and consider them to be honest and trustworthy friends. I commend Rinaldo for apologizing but empathize with Stewie. I hope to never find myself in that kind of situation - ever!

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                                                                                          • Cory W
                                                                                            Deeply shallow
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 9133

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                            sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

                                                                                            i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be
                                                                                            Honestly Jace, if he would have apologized for the initial incident, I promise I would never say a word. But attempting to ruin their credibility is the clincher for me.

                                                                                            I really do not care how many sheep come in and support him for prom king or whatever election components this board sometimes seems made up of.
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                                                                                            • Danny Dukes
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                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                              • 1988

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                              Rinaldo,

                                                                                              It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

                                                                                              You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

                                                                                              As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
                                                                                              Very honest and well spoken post Stewie, like we discussed before, whats right is whats right, period! And this joker still has not admitted disrespecting you and your lovely wife. IMO he still deserves an ass whippin' by Stewie and several others that he offended. Nonetheless good reply

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                                                                                              • Stewie
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                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 3670

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!

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                                                                                                • J$tyle$
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 11500

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                                                  recovery begins with being honest to yourself...

                                                                                                  to thy self be true...
                                                                                                  Rinaldo, bro -

                                                                                                  This quote about sums it all up!

                                                                                                  Take a step back and be honest with yourself first. Then, and only then - try to make amands to the people you insulted and/or harmed.

                                                                                                  ... and do it privately. No need to make any further spectacle out of this.

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                                                                                                  • Cory W
                                                                                                    Deeply shallow
                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                    • 9133

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Stewie
                                                                                                    Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!
                                                                                                    You are both very patient people. I know that I got drunk one night and fondled you even after Vanilla asked me to stop. I thought she was going to beat me down.

                                                                                                    Last time I drink a bottle of Blush Wine with you....
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