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pussyluver 04-26-2005 03:45 PM

Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker?
 
Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker?

Dollar for dollar, where would your money be better invested? Time for some afternoon drama. Who has $2k to do a real heads up test. No phony rigged bullshit where someone goes out and buys a win at the end. We've seen that before. Post the galleries, post the results, post the niche bought etc.

Christ, I don't even know if Sleazy will sell anything for just a mere $1K. Guess I gotta find cybercat or whatever to find out.

Basic_man 04-26-2005 03:46 PM

I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !

pussyluver 04-26-2005 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !


He uses a broker. Guess that's really elite??? I'd luv to see an honest test if that is possible. I know Choker will play it heads up! Is Sleazy man enough?

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 03:52 PM

that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue.

you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site.

reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur.

Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else.


I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that.

and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing.

detoxed 04-26-2005 03:53 PM

lets just get some apples and oranges, then see which one tastes more like apple.

pradaboy 04-26-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed
lets just get some apples and oranges, then see which one tastes more like apple.

I'd say the banana

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basic_man
I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !

you're soo silly

beemk 04-26-2005 03:56 PM

who cares? if you can make $ on them use both sites.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue.

you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site.

reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur.

Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else.


I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that.

and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing.

Well guess I'm clueless??? Don't you sell advertising on sleazydream.com? Wondering what kind of results I'd get if I invested my advertising dollar there? The rest is just bullshit. OK, we're both lazy!

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 03:57 PM

choker DOES deal with a LOT (not all) of traffic sources that I consider to be less than desirable though.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk
who cares? if you can make $ on them use both sites.


I care if I'm getting ready to buy some serious traffic. Plus we needed a little drama goin on the board, I know I can count on Sleazy for some drama action.

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver
Well guess I'm clueless??? Don't you sell advertising on sleazydream.com? Wondering what kind of results I'd get if I invested my advertising dollar there? The rest is just bullshit. OK, we're both lazy!


i'm sure you'd have a TOTALLY fair and unbiases test too. - esp considering you have choker' program in your sig.

to be honest I couldn't give a flying fuck if all the cheating hitbot people choker does business with make 100X more sales than me.

I have a solid business and i know my own resluts. so do my repeat clients.


you're soo silly

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
choker DOES deal with a LOT (not all) of traffic sources that I consider to be less than desirable though.


That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'm sure you'd have a TOTALLY fair and unbiases test too. - esp considering you have choker' program in your sig.

to be honest I couldn't give a flying fuck if all the cheating hitbot people choker does business with make 100X more sales than me.

I have a solid business and i know my own resluts. so do my repeat clients.


you're soo silly


I'm silly??? are you trying to flirt with me?

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver
That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.


dude - LOOK at the sites he gets his traffic from. most are total CRAP. Ok, there's a few that are ok but the VAST majority are CRAP. ANYONE with an OUNCE of intelligence in the tgp game knows that.

enough said.

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.


crack?

...

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:04 PM

Ok - here's an ad for you to make things fair:

http://www.burger-boy.com/graphics/bboy.gif


I sale ads cheap!

After Shock Media 04-26-2005 04:05 PM

We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:05 PM

That will be a red X soon, so enjoy while you can.

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Ok - here's an ad for you to make things fair:

http://www.burger-boy.com/graphics/bboy.gif


I sale ads cheap!

burgers arn't cheap (least the good ones arn't)


but i hear hot dogs are very inexpensive


buuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.

personally i would sugest you try choker's traffic - I don't sugest trying a TON of it to start but a small test - and small is a relative term in regards to your own budget - but a small test would be smart for you to try. it does work well for some people - not all - but no ad broker works well for everyone. any ad broker that says they are all things to every program is full of shit.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.


Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.

MetaformX 04-26-2005 04:10 PM

This thread will probably get ugly :)

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.


hitbots come is all languages, niches, and can be adjusted on the fly.

as a general rule of thumb - and this is from experience in trading traffic and from buying traffic - the more someone filters the traffic for you the worse it gets cause they often play games with it.
\
just a fact of life.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
personally i would sugest you try choker's traffic - I don't sugest trying a TON of it to start but a small test - and small is a relative term in regards to your own budget - but a small test would be smart for you to try. it does work well for some people - not all - but no ad broker works well for everyone. any ad broker that says they are all things to every program is full of shit.


Damn, you're not always a total asshole.... well put from your point of view.

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Damn, you're not always a total asshole.... well put from your point of view.

i resent that

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
burgers arn't cheap (least the good ones arn't)


but i hear hot dogs are very inexpensive


buuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha

Grew up in Chicago - luv hotdogs of course. I see you ate more burgers than I did dogs though.

pradaboy 04-26-2005 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.

that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge :2 cents:

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
hitbots come is all languages, niches, and can be adjusted on the fly.

as a general rule of thumb - and this is from experience in trading traffic and from buying traffic - the more someone filters the traffic for you the worse it gets cause they often play games with it.
\
just a fact of life.


Choker comes down hard on the hitbots and cheaters , you know that!

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Choker comes down hard on the hitbots and cheaters , you know that!

the ones he CATCHES yes, what about the ones he isn't able to catch?

they exist

hydro 04-26-2005 04:16 PM

fuck the movies, its gfy drama night!

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge :2 cents:



good answer and pretty much spot on.

SleazyDream 04-26-2005 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Grew up in Chicago - luv hotdogs of course. I see you ate more burgers than I did dogs though.


that one 747ed you - might have been before your time....

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge :2 cents:

Good point. It really isn't and could never be an exact comparison. Still, I'd luve for someone to try a niche that fit sleazy's site to do a heads up compare aginst choker with a compatible niche selected.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
that one 747ed you - might have been before your time....

Christ man, do you know how old I am? Before my time??????

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
the ones he CATCHES yes, what about the ones he isn't able to catch?

they exist


You've never had anyone fuck with your site?

pradaboy 04-26-2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Good point. It really isn't and could never be an exact comparison. Still, I'd luve for someone to try a niche that fit sleazy's site to do a heads up compare aginst choker with a compatible niche selected.

I'm not stopping you

$900 for 4 spots on SD (as far as I remember)

invest another $900 in Choker traffic

use the same gallery with different accounts and you're set

Juicy D. Links 04-26-2005 04:23 PM

2 diff types of traffic sources. I am sure they both are nice , tbh it boils down to what yourselling and how you market the end product.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaformX
This thread will probably get ugly :)

naw, Sleazy showed (to his credit) his soft side. Maybe if Choker comes along stokes the flames a bit.

pussyluver 04-26-2005 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
2 diff types of traffic sources. I am sure they both are nice , tbh it boils down to what yourselling and how you market the end product.


Mr. Juice how was the massage.

Hey this isn't logical, this is drama!! It helps your post count!


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