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Armenian Genocide

04-24-2005, 01:32 PM

To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide but history cannot be hidden or rewritten. Our mission is to inform the world about this tragedy. The issue bares no prejudice against the Turkish people or government, but the Armenian genocide needs to recognized by the world population

I should like to see any power of the world destroy this race, this small tribe of unimportant people, whose wars have all been fought and lost, whose structures have crumbled, literature is unread, music is unheard, and prayers are no more answered. Go ahead, destroy Armenia. See if you can do it. Send them into the desert without bread or water. Burn their homes and churches. Then see if they will not laugh, sing and pray again. For when two of them meet anywhere in the world, see if they will not create a New Armenia."

http://www.genocide1915.info/

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04-24-2005, 01:34 PM

Speak the truth dave, Im proud of your armenian spirtit
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04-24-2005, 01:35 PM

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04-24-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by axelcat

Speak the truth dave, Im proud of your armenian spirtit

thanks axelcat
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04-24-2005, 01:35 PM

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This deserves a bump.

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04-24-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Just_Dave

thanks

No problem, although I am not Armenian, I have some friends that are. I usually make a post like this around the time System of a Down does the benefit show, but nobody seems to care and the thread dies. It surprises me considering how many Armenians are among the ranks of GFY, and the Industry.
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04-24-2005, 02:05 PM

man i am bored from this genocide shit

every year a dumbass brings that trheads and we turks come and fight start.

what you want from us?

why is accepting this shit is too important?

do you want some cities of Turkey? money?

why dont u spend these monies to people in armenia i know people dying because of starving in that country.

why the hell u donot check ottoman empire archives(dont say me these archieves written by turks everbody in world know these are the most fair archieves in world?

well actually i want to learn what u want from Turkey?

alright think we accepted this lie what u gonna get? what is the aim behind that shit?
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04-24-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by onlyreal

man i am bored from this genocide shit

every year a dumbass brings that trheads and we turks come and fight start.

what you want from us?

why is accepting this shit is too important?

do you want some cities of Turkey? money?

why dont u spend these monies to people in armenia i know people dying because of starving in that country.

why the hell u donot check ottoman empire archives(dont say me these archieves written by turks everbody in world know these are the most fair archieves in world?

well actually i want to learn what u want from Turkey?

alright think we accepted this lie what u gonna get? what is the aim behind that shit?

i see how much you know . go learn your history buddy
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04-24-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by onlyreal

man i am bored from this genocide shit

every year a dumbass brings that trheads and we turks come and fight start.

what you want from us?

why is accepting this shit is too important?

do you want some cities of Turkey? money?

why dont u spend these monies to people in armenia i know people dying because of starving in that country.

why the hell u donot check ottoman empire archives(dont say me these archieves written by turks everbody in world know these are the most fair archieves in world?

well actually i want to learn what u want from Turkey?

alright think we accepted this lie what u gonna get? what is the aim behind that shit?

Does somebody need a hug?
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04-24-2005, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by onlyreal

man i am bored from this genocide shit

every year a dumbass brings that trheads and we turks come and fight start.

what you want from us?

why is accepting this shit is too important?

do you want some cities of Turkey? money?

why dont u spend these monies to people in armenia i know people dying because of starving in that country.

why the hell u donot check ottoman empire archives(dont say me these archieves written by turks everbody in world know these are the most fair archieves in world?

well actually i want to learn what u want from Turkey?

alright think we accepted this lie what u gonna get? what is the aim behind that shit?

and every year some troll has to come on and talk out of his ass... got real balls.. come to glendale, we'll meet you somewhere and you can fill us in how it never happened...

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04-24-2005, 02:11 PM

well actually readin tons of shit about this topic(Even bluebook) i donot think there is genocide.

well i have really good armenian friends in here(whom i was talking 5 minutes ago), nobody in Turkey cares about this shit even armenians in here.

but can u say me why is this shit so important? what is the aim?

why you guys spending millions ?
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04-24-2005, 02:36 PM

Shnorakalutsun, collega, Im glad to see somebody from Armenia

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04-24-2005, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al

and every year some troll has to come on and talk out of his ass... got real balls.. come to glendale, we'll meet you somewhere and you can fill us in how it never happened...

Lol glendale and hollywood

I don't go there anymore cuz I'm afraid of all the wannabe armenian thugs
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04-24-2005, 02:40 PM

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04-24-2005, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al

and every year some troll has to come on and talk out of his ass... got real balls.. come to glendale, we'll meet you somewhere and you can fill us in how it never happened...

whats up al how have you been , thanks for your support buddy
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04-24-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Just_Dave

whats up al how have you been , thanks for your support buddy

doing good.... how u doin?

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04-24-2005, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by onlyreal

man i am bored from this genocide shit

every year a dumbass brings that trheads and we turks come and fight start.

what you want from us?

why is accepting this shit is too important?

do you want some cities of Turkey? money?

why dont u spend these monies to people in armenia i know people dying because of starving in that country.

why the hell u donot check ottoman empire archives(dont say me these archieves written by turks everbody in world know these are the most fair archieves in world?

well actually i want to learn what u want from Turkey?

alright think we accepted this lie what u gonna get? what is the aim behind that shit?

A complete moron you are!

We dont want money, we dont want land, we want recognition! acknowledgement! We will get this!
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04-24-2005, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by wdsguy

Lol glendale and hollywood

I don't go there anymore cuz I'm afraid of all the wannabe armenian thugs

glendale is one of the richest cities in Los ANgeles now, thanks to the Armenians!
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04-24-2005, 03:03 PM

i saw this movie about it with Charles Aznavour i think

everyone should know what happened

you should at least all rant this movie
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04-24-2005, 03:05 PM

bump for the truth

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personally - i want Constantinople back.

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04-24-2005, 03:06 PM

All good but the honking is gotta go..annoying
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04-24-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by triumph

glendale is one of the richest cities in Los ANgeles now, thanks to the Armenians!

very true

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04-24-2005, 03:26 PM

only in your dreams

Originally posted by gxer

bump for the truth

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personally - i want Constantinople back.
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04-24-2005, 03:43 PM

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only in your dreams

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04-24-2005, 03:47 PM

Funny thing is that Israel it's one of the countries who back Turkey version and do not recognize the armenian genocide... http://war-on-errorism.blogspot.com/...-genocide.html

That's a good thing, it show the real nature of Israel and it's people.
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04-24-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Frile

Funny thing is that Israel it's one of the countries who back Turkey version and do not recognize the armenian genocide... http://war-on-errorism.blogspot.com/...-genocide.html

That's a good thing, it show the real nature of Israel and it's people.

bullshit

"Israel officially condemned the Armenian Genocide as Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Yossi Beilin proclaimed on the floor of the Knesset (the Israeli legislature), on April 27, 1994, in answer to the claims of the Turkish Ambassador, that "It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember."

http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armeni.../genocide.html

Yossi Sarid is an ultra left winged politician who will always look for something bad to say about the israeli government.

find me a quote of an Israeli leader denying the armenian genocide.

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04-24-2005, 03:55 PM

Israel did have good diplomatic relationship with Turkey in the past but the only ones to blame for denying the armenian genocide is Turkey itself

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04-24-2005, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by onlyreal

only in your dreams

ofcourse it was a sarcasm , but you know - your nation has no right to
be there. You should kiss this stupid England ass for this.
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04-24-2005, 04:06 PM

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/565667.html

Auron and Yona Weitz, a Hebrew University anthropologist, quoted Shimon Peres' statements about the Armenian genocide. In 2001, when he was foreign minister, Peres told Turkish Daily News that, "It is a tragedy what the Armenians went through, but not a genocide."

Israelis make me sick... they build a country for themselves based on a "holocaust" which they keep profiting from but at the same time they have the nerve to deny other genocides and even commit one with palestinians.
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04-24-2005, 04:11 PM

It's not just Israel that doesn't recognize the genocide, many other countries don't either, including the US. Why? Because they wanna have good relations with Turkey. It's politics, they'll just say whatever is in their best interest.
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04-24-2005, 04:13 PM

how come that every political thread ends up with Israel ?
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04-24-2005, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Roger

It's not just Israel that doesn't recognize the genocide, many other countries don't either, including the US. Why? Because they wanna have good relations with Turkey. It's politics, they'll just say whatever is in their best interest.

I can understand the US point, of course, geopolitics. But i do not understand or approve Israel denial. They have the MORAL obligation of supporting the armenians, unless they are a country of miserable liars and their "holocaust" never had the dimensions they told us... then they can choose to deny any genocide they want. But if they keep getting compensations for those 6MM and keep doing the victims role they cant have this position.

Well, at the end Israelis are 95% jewish... what can you expect?
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04-24-2005, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Roger

It's not just Israel that doesn't recognize the genocide, many other countries don't either, including the US. Why? Because they wanna have good relations with Turkey. It's politics, they'll just say whatever is in their best interest.

very true.... US has so many bases in turkey and i guess it wouldn't be 'profitable' for them

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04-24-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Roger

It's not just Israel that doesn't recognize the genocide, many other countries don't either, including the US. Why? Because they wanna have good relations with Turkey. It's politics, they'll just say whatever is in their best interest.

You nailed it buddy
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04-24-2005, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Frile

I can understand the US point, of course, geopolitics. But i do not understand or approve Israel denial. They have the MORAL obligation of supporting the armenians, unless they are a country of miserable liars and their "holocaust" never had the dimensions they told us... then they can choose to deny any genocide they want. But if they keep getting compensations for those 6MM and keep doing the victims role they cant have this position.

Well, at the end Israelis are 95% jewish... what can you expect?

first, it's not 95% unfortunately.. it's a lot less... and btw, what is this comment of yours supposed to mean? are you racist?

second, Israel had good diplomatic relations with turkey, so what can't you understand?

third, israel never denied the armenian genocide.. what shimon peres may have said in a certain context under certain circumstances doesn't mean much...

you should only blame turkey for the denial of the armenian genocide. i don't get it why turkey keeps being morons and don't recognize this tragedy, but you should understand that israel doesn't want to end the diplomatic relations with turkey.

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04-24-2005, 04:35 PM

my guess is if turkey ever wants to enter EU, they will have to finally acknowledge the armenian genocide...

i don't think it will happen anytime soon though

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04-24-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Roger

It's not just Israel that doesn't recognize the genocide, many other countries don't either, including the US. Why? Because they wanna have good relations with Turkey. It's politics, they'll just say whatever is in their best interest.

Follow the money. Look at Saudi Arabia.

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04-24-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Just_Dave

history cannot be hidden or rewritten.

I completely agree with your cause, but this sentence is utterly ridiculous. History is constantly hidden and rewritten. Americans believe that Columbus discovered America and that their civil war was fought over slavery, for Christ's sake.
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04-24-2005, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Rich

I completely agree with your cause, but this sentence is utterly ridiculous. History is constantly hidden and rewritten. Americans believe that Columbus discovered America and that their civil war was fought over slavery, for Christ's sake.

More recently, Americans believe that Iraq attacked the WTC and that Republicans support less government.

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04-24-2005, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by triumph

A complete moron you are!

We dont want money, we dont want land, we want recognition! acknowledgement! We will get this!

Starting with GFY goddammit!!!!
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04-24-2005, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by alexg

i don't get it why turkey keeps being morons and don't recognize this tragedy

Why does Israel deny what they're doing to the Palestinians?
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04-24-2005, 04:50 PM

Hitler used the Ottoman genocide against the Christian Armenians as a model for his final solution.
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04-24-2005, 04:50 PM

well if israel loose turkeys support, it means they are fucked.

as we are the only country in this fucking place(middle east) that has relation with israel.

although some radical donot like jewishs in here Turkey is very safe place for them to live.

also we are the only country accepted most of jewish guys in ww2

and although all this sarcasm in world, Turkey is still one of the safest place for an armenian to live.

think how people in america threats to arabic people in america and still not just one bad thing happened to any armenian in Turkey.

also i still cant get being recognized of this lie(genocide) is important?
why you guys dont try to help your people on armenia? they are poor, starving...(btw there is more than 35k of armenian working and living without having work or live permit in Turkey(mostly came from armenia))

it still sounds me funny, everyone even u know aim behind this is solid and money.

Originally posted by Frile

Funny thing is that Israel it's one of the countries who back Turkey version and do not recognize the armenian genocide... http://war-on-errorism.blogspot.com/...-genocide.html

That's a good thing, it show the real nature of Israel and it's people.
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04-24-2005, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Rich

Why does Israel deny what they're doing to the Palestinians?

give me an example..

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04-24-2005, 05:06 PM

well that was the funniest shit i have ever heard

btw read some ottoman empire history, you will see nobody cares for armenians jews turks,

what they actually did after seeing armenian guys killed tons of people(yeah like 700 800k(we have proofs for these also )) they exiled exiled armenian people to south(there is lots of commands in archive saying dont harm people while exile).

you guys will neverr get the mind of ottomans, they never think turks higher than other guys. even most they see lower.

it is normal in that time to exile people if they are harming other, it is hard for you to understand that but ottoman empire is not a turk based big country.

most emperors mothers are greek etc(dont ask me why there is no armenian girls, ask it to your hairy armenian girls (yeah reality for turkish armenian girls they are hairy(moustaches ).

so if you want to understand what have done in there know that it is not a plan to kill all armenians or no way near to genocide. it is just a general procedure if people harms others then exile.

btw if armenians are brave enough to check ottoman archives they will see this.

one more thing for eu, no one ask in Turkish people do you really want eu?
just goverments mostly because of silly media dies for it.

i dont think most of turks will accept armenian genocide lie if eu says aceppt genocide lie to enter eu.

one more thing all your tryings just hurts armenian people in Turkey. Everyday i am with my armenian friends there is a news about genocide lie on tv, and thats just makes them bad.

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04-24-2005, 05:10 PM

for palestinians dont give too much credit to them. they never worth it in all history
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04-24-2005, 05:35 PM

onlyreal... you're an absolute moron..... your grammar blows and so do your 'facts' .... just leave please.. thank you.

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04-24-2005, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al

onlyreal... you're an absolute moron..... your grammar blows and so do your 'facts' .... just leave please.. thank you.

He is not only a moron, his ignorance over exceeds his rep.
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04-24-2005, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al

onlyreal... you're an absolute moron..... your grammar blows and so do your 'facts' .... just leave please.. thank you.

I must agree onlyreal get out of our thread moron

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04-24-2005, 06:34 PM

sucks

out of curiosity... what happens when you finally get the recognition you're looking for?

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