Fuck The Asacp!
 

I got this email today,

"Stafford here from Dollar Machine. I just came across a complaint from ASACP that we received about inappropriate content on your site - universaltgp.com. Upon reviewing the site I will have to deactivate your account because of the risks of being linked with underage pornography."

#1 I do not have childporn on any of my TGP's.
#2 I submitted my own TGP's to the ASACP for review and they all came back, "We could not determine whether the models are
`clearly` under the age of 18; therefore, we are
unable to report the website to the authorities. "
#3 I have a page here http://www.lacetongue.com/2257_info.txt showing the thumbs and the galleries linked to them and their respective sponsors with their 2257 data...

My problem with all of this is, since when does the ASACP SEND sponsors emails about possibly CP related sites? I am figuring never but I dunno... I don't even promote this sponsor, one of my partner accounts does.. hmm...

Interesting. I hadn't heard that before.

Thats retarded and im amazed they actually killed your account.

A lot of the girls on your TGP do look underage... not sure if they are or not, they just look it.

:thumbsup what he said

I second that.

Since when is it illegal to look younger than 18.

Is www.universaltgp.com your site?

That's an interesting one.

What the hell is going on?

You reported yourself to ASACP?

:1orglaugh

I think all the models there are 18+. However some pics are picked and photoshoped a bit to look younger. I don't think that is a crime. But now is a witch-hunt time as far as you know. So everything suspicious is automatically considered as illegal. So I'd recommend you just replace your thumbs.

He said he submitted his TGP for review. Can you read English?

Why would you report your own sites to ASACP? You should only report sites you think should be shut down, not your own.... unless your sites should be shut down.

Why invite that kind of attention??


Of course they will go after a site they feel is in violation any way they can. One of the most effective ways of nailing a free/tgp/cj site is to go after their sponsors and have you shut down that way. ASACP are very experienced at finding ways of hitting those who they feel are in violation, I thought it was common knowledge.

You best track down some phone #'s and get calling up some of these people and get this straightened out, instead of coming on here screaming "fuck you" about a great and often overworked organization like ASACP.

I never said it was... but I can see how some might want to avoid being associated with such just for precautionary sake.

Thank you.......We received a notice from ASACP that the site has been reported to the FBI, etc. The site also had NO 2257 on the front page. There is nothing I could do but to shut it down.

Some of the trades have even younger looking models.

Im not taking a side either way as I dont know the entire situation. I do know it has to be tough dealing with the barely legal niche.

When you get a response like "We could not determine whether the models are`clearly` under the age of 18; therefore, we are unable to report the website to the authorities," I don't see why they feel they have the right to affect someone's business this way. Are we truly beyond, "Innocent until proven guilty?"

How is that different from this....

"Well sir, we can't prove that you stole anything. So, since we can't send you to jail due to insufficient evidence, we're gonna notify all of your potential future employers, that you MAY be a thief."

Noting that CD just posted.

I have always supported the ASACP and believe that they're TRYING to do what's best for our industry. We all know what they say about absolute power however, and for them to go to a sponsor is them abusing that power in my eyes.

:2 cents:

Submitting a site for the asacp to review is reporting that site. They have a simple form questionaire for people who want to get a rating and put that little banner on the page. The asacp doesn't review any site unless they suspect it.

good. V_Rocks, you wanted to act all tough and shit when I confronted you months ago about how I think you're a piece of shit scumbag for cropping your thumbs to make them look as young as possible. Now, you see what happens when you want to push the age envelope... sometimes you get burned. getting what you deserved, in my opinion.

Completely correct (except about the part of going to the sponsor). That's why if I were him I would be on the phone to the ASACP ASAP and get this straightened out, and get myself reinstated with that sponsor. Period.

I have a few teen babe sites too, have had them up for many years actually. I am not so concerned about how young they look, as long as the owners of all the content have it plainly displayed on their sites that all models are over the age of 18. I'm picky like that. If on my own galleries a model looks really young I go out of my way to let the viewer know that she is at least 18, which means I will verify it with the sponsor directly if I have to.

Leave nothing to chance, you guys. Nothing.

Yes, it is.

OK, you have a valid point, I over looked the 2257 link. I will fix it immediately.

I'm sorry, do I know you?

lol, I thought you'd agreed completely until the edit.

I totally disagree with going to the sponsor when they don't have any evidence that any laws are being broken.

If the police told everyone in my neighborhood I MIGHT be selling CP and I lost my job, because word got around and my employer "Didn't want to be associated", they'd both have a serious lawsuit on their hands. The ASACP ARE the police in this industry and they need to be careful before they label someone as "Potential" CP distributors. Based on what he's posted, that's what they've done. His image is tarnished and I STILL haven't seen any proof of him doing anything that MANY "Reputable" companies are doing.

Damn man, they could do the exact same thing to you, I or anyone when there is NO proof.

If HIS site is ASACP approved, strip his rights to that. Fine, that's entirely their call.

:1orglaugh

i had to read it a couple of times to realise that you reported your own tgp :upsidedow

Maybe they later looked at the site and found something more questionable? You and I don't know, only they do. That's why if it were my site I would be phoning them.

hmmmmm :warning

ASACP is trying to investigate this matter, but this thread is very confusing.

It looks like someone submitted universaltgp.com to the ASACP Hotline. The ASACP Site Reviewer (who investigates reports of suspect cp) sent this reply back to the submitter, "We could not determine whether the models are `clearly` under the age of 18; therefore, we are unable to report the website to the authorities."

ASACP would not send such a response to anyone except for the person who submitted the said report. The only way anyone else would know about this would be if the submitter contracted them.

Please contact me at [email protected], so we can further investigate.

nope. I wouldn't associate with you knowingly.

You are linking to sites with underage kids on them.
Thats wrong.

So the ASACP doesn't make it a practice to notify sponsors Joan? That would ease some concerns.

Bump for you to see.

This is a very confusing thread. You submitted your site to ASACP as if you (or someone else) was pointing out that you had 2257 issues on it?

If I have the first part right, then I'm not even going into the second part.

Why would you fuck around.

You deliberatley use thumbs that have underage kids on them which you know will gain tons of clicks and then skim it to a trade too bost traffic. If you didnt fuck arou nd you wouldnt be in this situation.

Yo - hit me up on icq. I just sent you an email.

ICQ: 199890361

Thanks, and I will, I want to make CERTAIN that my site doesn't have CP on it! I use only FHG's and my partners are screened. If my site has CP on it, then that would meen 100% that a sponsor has CP in their FHG's and that I am unknowingly promoting it along with the 1000's of other webmasters who are also promoting the same sponsor. I do not think it is ok to do so!

None of my thumbs have underage kids on them, read the 2257 data on Lacetongue.com, link was posted in the original post.

But you are trading with sites that have underage "models" well models means they are legit, but these are kids 10-11 y.o.

Thats sick.