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directfiesta 03-03-2005 08:08 PM

Bush: God, not America, ...
 
This guy is crazier than I ever tought .... He should be locked up.

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President Bush yesterday issued his most forceful demand for Syria to withdraw its troops from Lebanon and credited God, not America, for the spread of freedom throughout the Middle East.

http://washingtontimes.com/
http://images.washtimes.com/photos/w...11346-6398.jpg
President Bush, left, bows his head in prayer during a tribute to the late baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

FunForOne 03-03-2005 08:14 PM

It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The spark of democratic revolt was spreading. The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it.

jukeboxfrank 03-03-2005 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
This guy is crazier than I ever tought .... He should be locked up.



http://images.washtimes.com/photos/w...11346-6398.jpg
President Bush, left, bows his head in prayer during a tribute to the late baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

hey dude this one's for you :321GFY

Dildozer 03-03-2005 09:35 PM

Fuckin religious freaks

dready 03-03-2005 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The spark of democratic revolt was spreading. The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it.

You live right inside the rhetoric don't you? It's unfortunate with the multitude of perspectives people have to view the world, some choose just one. They stick to it with a blind stubborness that is so difficult to even conceive, and yet they do.

Mogulman 03-03-2005 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
This guy is crazier than I ever tought .... He should be locked up.



http://images.washtimes.com/photos/w...11346-6398.jpg
President Bush, left, bows his head in prayer during a tribute to the late baseball legend Jackie Robinson.


Fuck Bush.

FunForOne 03-03-2005 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
You live right inside the rhetoric don't you? It's unfortunate with the multitude of perspectives people have to view the world, some choose just one. They stick to it with a blind stubborness that is so difficult to even conceive, and yet they do.


what do you say that??????

dready 03-03-2005 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
what do you say that??????

You're so wrapped up in this Republican/Democrat sideshow you loose the whole fucking picture. Politics isn't the WWF, as much as the Television might want you to believe.

Downtime 03-03-2005 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mogulman
Fuck Bush.

Still salty you lost huh?

FunForOne 03-03-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
You're so wrapped up in this Republican/Democrat sideshow you loose the whole fucking picture. Politics isn't the WWF, as much as the Television might want you to believe.


Did you think that was my quote?

BRISK 03-03-2005 09:59 PM

If God is spreading freedom, he sure is taking his time. You'd think he'd be able to just snap his fingers and make it happen.

dready 03-03-2005 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
Did you think that was my quote?

I'm not talking about quotes... I'm being much more personal than that.

dready 03-03-2005 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK
If God is spreading freedom, he sure is taking his time. You'd think he'd be able to just snap his fingers and make it happen.

:thumbsup

FunForOne 03-03-2005 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
I'm not talking about quotes... I'm being much more personal than that.


I published a quote from somone with a world view and you hammered me.

The irony is that I belive you were telling me not to hammer people and I should listen to people with world views.

I dont understand.

tungsten 03-03-2005 10:08 PM

credited god? wtf is this

dready 03-03-2005 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
I published a quote from somone with a world view and you hammered me.

The irony is that I belive you were telling me not to hammer people and I should listen to people with world views.

I dont understand.

First, when you quote someone.. you should give them credit.

Second, events in Iraq have absolutly nothing to do with democracy. Yes, a new Arab world is coming... war will see to that, but the motives have nothing to do with anything altruistic like you've been led to believe.

directfiesta 03-03-2005 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tungsten
credited god? wtf is this

Sure families of the deads agree .... God died for freedom, not my kid...

FunForOne 03-03-2005 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
First, when you quote someone.. you should give them credit.

Second, events in Iraq have absolutly nothing to do with democracy. Yes, a new Arab world is coming... war will see to that, but the motives have nothing to do with anything altruistic like you've been led to believe.


I'm sure the owners of GFY will allow me to get away with not attributing the quote. The fact is that it is important to hide the source of the quote to prove that some people will only believe that I am misled by motives that aren't altruistic.

You sound like an educated person. I am an educated person. I am pretty qualified to research and comprehend world affairs. I"m sure you are as well. The biggest problem I've found with anti-american people is that they seem limited in their information sources.

If someone was qualified enough to start a post like this and even enter into this arguement, they surely would have read this quote and known who said it.

It is an overwhelming theme that is being repeated all over the world. It seems however, that for some motives unmentioned, a smaller percentage of people are not getting this information.

You can argue with me all you want, but dont question my comprehension of the situation. I'm on top of that.

dready 03-03-2005 10:35 PM

Criticising American policies is not anti-American. I really don't understand this fascist trend in denouncing anyone who has an opinion.

Again, do you honestly believe the Bush administration's motive is concern for the Iraqi people and democracy in the middle east?

FunForOne 03-03-2005 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
Criticising American policies is not anti-American. I really don't understand this fascist trend in denouncing anyone who has an opinion.

Again, do you honestly believe the Bush administration's motive is concern for the Iraqi people and democracy in the middle east?


the democracy and peace in the middle east is the only long term solution to defending our country from terrorist attacks.

9/11 was not the first terrorists attack on the U.S.

dready 03-03-2005 10:56 PM

Peace is always the best long term solution... do you think that's what the goal is?

RandomNinja 03-03-2005 10:56 PM

Bush is a stupid asshole... but we already knew that.

Pornwolf 03-03-2005 10:58 PM

Terrorists attacks don't stop due to democracy. When you are on top attacks never stop until everyone is eating as well as you. Jealousy and democracy do not go hand n hand.

FunForOne 03-03-2005 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
Terrorists attacks don't stop due to democracy. When you are on top attacks never stop until everyone is eating as well as you. Jealousy and democracy do not go hand n hand.


What is the best solution then. Would you do nothing in the middle east and disarm our military.

Thats what Clinton did after the first WTC attacks. It didn't work, they attacked them again.

dready 03-03-2005 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
What is the best solution then. Would you do nothing in the middle east and disarm our military.

Thats what Clinton did after the first WTC attacks. It didn't work, they attacked them again.

He gave you a clue... you failed to see it. The attacks stop when all people have dignity and justice.

prime 03-04-2005 03:54 AM

Bush Man!!! :)

darksoft 03-04-2005 04:13 AM

You silly, braindead fucks. Blowing sunshine up each others ass will not solve the problem with those ignorant shitbags who turn themselves and their children into suicide bombers. Peace without force to back it up is meaningless. The ignorance of the eurotrash on this board is mind boggling.

mufas 03-04-2005 04:15 AM

Fuck Bush. :321GFY

DJChunkyB 03-04-2005 04:22 AM

[QUOTE=FunForOne]The biggest problem I've found with anti-american people is that they seem limited in their information sources.QUOTE]


From my perspective the BIGGEST PROBLEM with anti-American people is that far too many of them are actually American.

JMFO :2 cents:

Blue State / Red State or Blue & Grey 145 years ago when it was the Lincoln Republicans who led our country from the Civil War brought about by the highly conservative Democrats who were trying to maintain their way of life in the south. Hmmmm Slavery, Segregation & Civil Rights sound familiar. Now it is the conservative Republicans who are leading the global civil war that is once again the beginning of an end to tyranny over a select group of people and the Democrats are the ones trying to stop them. Coincidence???

nico-t 03-04-2005 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The spark of democratic revolt was spreading. The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it.

remember why the invaded iraq? not to liberate the goddamn people, that was just a side effect.
The reason was to find nuclear weapons.
The real reason was to get control over the area and its oil.
Or is it just a coincidence they go thru with syria and iran?
But yes, i guess the side effect is rather positive, but that aint enough to compensate the shameless lies of US government, wrecking the world economy and creating a global war of west vs east.

ADL Colin 03-04-2005 04:38 AM

The leader of this Lebanese intifada is Walid Jumblatt, the patriarch of the Druze Muslim community and, until recently, a man who accommodated Syria's occupation. But something snapped for Jumblatt last year, when the Syrians overruled the Lebanese constitution and forced the reelection of their front man in Lebanon, President Emile Lahoud. The old slogans about Arab nationalism turned to ashes in Jumblatt's mouth, and he and Hariri openly began to defy Damascus.

I dined Monday night with Jumblatt in his mountain fortress in Moukhtara, southeast of Beirut. He moved there for safety last weekend because of worries that he would be the next target of whoever killed Hariri. We sat under a portrait of Jumblatt's father, Kamal, who was assassinated in 1976 after he opposed the initial entry of Syrian troops into Lebanon. With me was Jamil Mroue, a Lebanese Shiite journalist whose own father was assassinated by Arab radicals in the 1960s. It was an evening when the ghosts of the past mingled with hopes for the future.

Jumblatt dresses like an ex-hippie, in jeans and loafers, but he maintains the exquisite manners of a Lebanese aristocrat. Over the years, I've often heard him denouncing the United States and Israel, but these days, in the aftermath of Hariri's death, he's sounding almost like a neoconservative. He says he's determined to defy the Syrians until their troops leave Lebanon and the Lahoud government is replaced.

"It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq," explains Jumblatt. "I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world." Jumblatt says this spark of democratic revolt is spreading. "The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it."

sacX 03-04-2005 05:45 AM

A lot of it also has to do with satellite TV in the region.. The people in the hardline muslim countries see people in Western countries with more freedom than them, but more importantly people in other Arab countries with more freedom.

ADL Colin 03-04-2005 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
This guy is crazier than I ever tought .... He should be locked up.



http://images.washtimes.com/photos/w...11346-6398.jpg
President Bush, left, bows his head in prayer during a tribute to the late baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

That's stupid. Bush shouldn't give God credit. He should give full credit to himself - as should all of us.

In the past 6 months ...

Elections in Afghanistan
Elections in Iraq
Historic municipal elections in Saudi Arabia
Multi-party elections announced in Egypt.
Syria/Lebanon situation on the move.

SinisterStudios 03-04-2005 06:56 AM

Organized Religion will be the downfall of the Planet, and Bush is the second Coming of Satan

ADL Colin 03-04-2005 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SinisterStudios
Organized Religion will be the downfall of the Planet, and Bush is the second Coming of Satan

Organized religion will one day disappear. I won't live long enough to collect on my bet though.

theking 03-04-2005 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dready
Criticising American policies is not anti-American. I really don't understand this fascist trend in denouncing anyone who has an opinion.

Again, do you honestly believe the Bush administration's motive is concern for the Iraqi people and democracy in the middle east?

The concern of President Bush is the American people...and the democratization of Iraq and the mid east in general...is a forward thinking stragtegy to help alliviate the concerns of the American people. Of course democratization will improve the quality of life for the people of Iraq as well as the mid east.

nico-t 03-04-2005 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
That's stupid. Bush shouldn't give God credit. He should give full credit to himself - as should all of us.

In the past 6 months ...

Elections in Afghanistan
Elections in Iraq
Historic municipal elections in Saudi Arabia
Multi-party elections announced in Egypt.
Syria/Lebanon situation on the move.

And lets all hope their elections go just as fair as the US elections :1orglaugh

theking 03-04-2005 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
That's stupid. Bush shouldn't give God credit. He should give full credit to himself - as should all of us.

In the past 6 months ...

Elections in Afghanistan
Elections in Iraq
Historic municipal elections in Saudi Arabia
Multi-party elections announced in Egypt.
Syria/Lebanon situation on the move.

You left off Libya.

theking 03-04-2005 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
This guy is crazier than I ever tought .... He should be locked up.



http://images.washtimes.com/photos/w...11346-6398.jpg
President Bush, left, bows his head in prayer during a tribute to the late baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

Hmm...I cannot find a link where he makes the attribution to God.

directfiesta 03-04-2005 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
Hmm...I cannot find a link where he makes the attribution to God.

You left out the Washington Times link on purpose ??? Look at the original first post.

Now that publication replaces articles by new ones, archiving the older one...So do a fucking search or shut the fuck up, drunky ( or druggy )....


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