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joey3001 01-12-2005 09:50 AM

Ibill legal information
 
Guys, I am posting this to this forum first, but will be posting on others as well.

I just got off with the florida attorney general, they have had other complaints but cant do anything till others call. So if ibill is holding your money, please call:
1-866-966-7226

They are taking information but need more people to complain. They are also giving out other places to call:

Broward County Consumer Office
954-765-5350

BBB of Broward County
561-842-1918

If you guys need to contact me, please do so.. Also, please try to keep this bumped as this is very important for ibill webmasters.

Thanks

tony286 01-12-2005 09:51 AM

Another lo post counter bashing ibill what a surprise lol It must piss you off they are still around

brand0n 01-12-2005 09:52 AM

think this is going to do you 1 bit of good? honestly.

Hinc 01-12-2005 09:53 AM

Yes, they owe money.

But....

1. Will calling get me my money?
2. Will calling get me my money?
3. Will calling get me my money?

tony286 01-12-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc
Yes, they owe money.

But....

1. Will calling get me my money?
2. Will calling get me my money?
3. Will calling get me my money?

Once the lawyers get involved things start to get really fucked up.

joey3001 01-12-2005 09:55 AM

it may.. something has to be done, they owe me over 12k

tony286 01-12-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
it may.. something has to be done, they owe me over 12k

OH stop I bet you dont even have a ibill account.

joey3001 01-12-2005 09:55 AM

if we do nothing, they will continue this crap.. i was supposed to get paid yesterday and still have yet to get the money in my bank account.

brand0n 01-12-2005 09:56 AM

listen, change your links to another billing company and move on for the time being.

joey3001 01-12-2005 09:57 AM

brandon - did that.. but that doesnt mean i sit on my hands and wait... this is just info for those affected..

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
it may.. something has to be done, they owe me over 12k

As Sleazy would say, "Your're an idiot", crawl back to under the rock...bla bla bla :321GFY

joey3001 01-12-2005 10:00 AM

fidel - go f yourself..

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
fidel - go f yourself..

Hey, that's my line...sorry, welcome here, and :321GFY

Do you really think the florida attorney general gives a shit about your 12k gained by selling smut?

ThunderBalls 01-12-2005 10:10 AM

Tony, whats your deal man? Why everytime someone has something to say about Ibill you're jumping all over them? Ibill has definitely fucked over quite a few people including myself. I don't get you man.

LeeNoga 01-12-2005 10:11 AM

I agree, move off this Ibill thing, change links and hope in 4 years you get your $1.90.

joey3001 01-12-2005 10:11 AM

fidel - lol... i dont actually sell smut though.. i used ibill for other things. and i dont think they care about me as an individual but me and 100 other people, they would care about.

im just trying to get people to do something instead of sitting on their hands and waiting.. either way we are gonna get f'ed but if we can bring the jerkoffs that work there down, all the better.

i am actually thinking of sueing my account rep. i have every email he ever sent and he states i will get paid and when.. i would love to do it, but im not sure if i can...

joey3001 01-12-2005 10:12 AM

the attitude of move past it.. is what they want..

tony286 01-12-2005 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
Tony, whats your deal man? Why everytime someone has something to say about Ibill you're jumping all over them? Ibill has definitely fucked over quite a few people including myself. I don't get you man.

Because its so transparent these posts of these people that came out of nowhere. Also they are trying to pay unlike others that just disappeared is your memory that short. Maybe thats why the others just disappeared instead of trying because they knew how long webmaster loyalty lasts.

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
the attitude of move past it.. is what they want..

I got paid yesterday, and they seem to be making progress no matter how little. I send a few (very few) signs a week, and still have a backup.
90% of my signs have been moved to ccbill 2 months ago. Sorry about your funds, but your barking up the wrong tree. :2 cents:

Hinc 01-12-2005 10:21 AM

Yeah well...

I dont see how tony is getting THIS positive about the situation - cant really find any good reasons to...on the other hand, declaring it all dead and gone is probably/hopefully to soon, although it aint looking good. There´s still room for hopes on behalf of ibill and our cash...and i dont see how bringing on attorney generals would help. What could possibly be obtained? (except maybe the satisfaction of winning/getting them declared bankrupt/sending someone off to do time???)

Guess...in lack of better options, i keep waiting...

joey3001 01-12-2005 10:23 AM

fidel - great, i was supposed to get paid but was not paid.. i called and they said it could take up to 48 hours to clear my bank, which is bs..

SuckOnThis 01-12-2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadFidel
I got paid yesterday, and they seem to be making progress no matter how little. I send a few (very few) signs a week, and still have a backup.
90% of my signs have been moved to ccbill 2 months ago. Sorry about your funds, but your barking up the wrong tree. :2 cents:

My point exactly. You will not get paid unless you continue doing business with them. Companies cannot force you to do business with them by withholding funds. This is reason enough to file a complaint with the AG.

Tommy behind tha Deuce 01-12-2005 10:32 AM

You can always report them to these agencie's.

They take a while to get to your complaints but it may be the only avenue since they seem to be so arrogant about what they owe to webmasters.

http://www.ftc.gov
PH: Phone complaint center 1-877-382-4357


IFCC: http://www.ifccfbi.gov [on line submittle only]

Also file a complaint with the local FBI in the town they are located in.
I think with all the people that are owed these agencies will take note and maybe an investigation could be imminate.

Pursueing a lawsuit will cost you ALOT more than is already owed to you or others and this is probably the reason they are acting the way they are. They know you wont sue so you are stuck with the catch22 situation.

They wont act so arrogant with the agencies listed above. I don't use ibill so I don't know the full story...execpt that alot of people are being misled with promises of owed money and thats not right.

Good luck to all that are owed money.

ThunderBalls 01-12-2005 10:35 AM

Joey3001, who did you speak to at the Florida Attorney Generals office?

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
fidel - great, i was supposed to get paid but was not paid.. i called and they said it could take up to 48 hours to clear my bank, which is bs..

You seem to be a nice person that just wants the monies due them. The stance here, for those who are hanging on to hope, is a "wait and see" one.
Funds prior to Sept, are mostly written off as a loss with the exeption of a come back on ibills part. I wish you the best.

ThunderBalls 01-12-2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadFidel
You seem to be a nice person that just wants the monies due them. The stance here, for those who are hanging on to hope, is a "wait and see" one.
Funds prior to Sept, are mostly written off as a loss with the exeption of a come back on ibills part. I wish you the best.


I disagree with this wait and see attitude. Unless they are forced to pay they will think they can get away with this shit. Ibill is a public company and an investigation by any government agency is the last thing they want and it may be what it takes to light a fire under their ass. If their management has been found to negligent in their dealings then they have to deal with lawsuits from their shareholders. I say its time to fire a few shots across their bow and let them know we're not fucking around anymore.

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
I disagree with this wait and see attitude. Unless they are forced to pay they will think they can get away with this shit. Ibill is a public company and an investigation by any government agency is the last thing they want and it may be what it takes to light a fire under their ass. If their management has been found to negligent in their dealings then they have to deal with lawsuits from their shareholders. I say its time to fire a few shots across their bow and let them know we're not fucking around anymore.


You cannot force someone to pay you what they don't have. If they go under you will see zero. If they chapter 11 you may see 10-15 cents on the dollar, and that's IF you file. Your attitude is wishful thinking at best.

Johny Traffic 01-12-2005 11:04 AM

If they are trying to pay, which seems to be the case. Then getting them more problems wont help you get paid but is just as likely to hinder you. Especially if they dont have the money. If they dont have it whatever you do meens you wont get it unfortunately

MickeyG 01-12-2005 11:33 AM

man o man the trolls are really out today.

Hinc 01-12-2005 11:36 AM

Our only bet is that they muddle through the crisis....

jimmyf 01-12-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls
I disagree with this wait and see attitude. Unless they are forced to pay they will think they can get away with this shit. Ibill is a public company and an investigation by any government agency is the last thing they want and it may be what it takes to light a fire under their ass. If their management has been found to negligent in their dealings then they have to deal with lawsuits from their shareholders. I say its time to fire a few shots across their bow and let them know we're not fucking around anymore.

Shit I bet the FTC has all kinds of email's on this. Even if ibill paid every penny, last week... the FTC will be knocking on or down there door.. Might take them awhile.. but you can bank on it they will be there.. After all ibill does deal in PORN :2 cents: :helpme

DeadFidel 01-12-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
man o man the trolls are really out today.

This thread seems to be 50-50. Very curious to which side of the scope you stand with.

SuckOnThis 01-12-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
man o man the trolls are really out today.


Says the 16 year old affiliate pushing sig whore

killshot 01-12-2005 12:06 PM

They owe me more than 12k ... but i am not going to call the attorney general unless it is a last resort... You think you have been waiting long for your money now?
just wait until you have to see how long it takes for a judge to get you just part of the money you are owed.. if anything at all

joey3001 01-12-2005 12:09 PM

well it looks like others did not get the wire transfer today or yesterday of the money they promised..

tony286 01-12-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot
They owe me more than 12k ... but i am not going to call the attorney general unless it is a last resort... You think you have been waiting long for your money now?
just wait until you have to see how long it takes for a judge to get you just part of the money you are owed.. if anything at all


Thank you , I will say it again I would bet dollars to donuts joey doesnt have a ibill account.

MandyBlake 01-12-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey3001
fidel - great, i was supposed to get paid but was not paid.. i called and they said it could take up to 48 hours to clear my bank, which is bs..

its not bs...its the way it is. get over it.

MandyBlake 01-12-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot
They owe me more than 12k ... but i am not going to call the attorney general unless it is a last resort... You think you have been waiting long for your money now?
just wait until you have to see how long it takes for a judge to get you just part of the money you are owed.. if anything at all

and also..just think about how much money it will cost to take ibill to court to get your money. it may end up costing you more than you are owed.

MickeyG 01-12-2005 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadFidel
This thread seems to be 50-50. Very curious to which side of the scope you stand with.

I think our only hope is to pray they pull through and continue making payments. And I dont think all the bashing or legal manuevers helps any. Thats would be my :2 cents:

chupacabra 01-12-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
Because its so transparent these posts of these people that came out of nowhere. Also they are trying to pay unlike others that just disappeared is your memory that short. Maybe thats why the others just disappeared instead of trying because they knew how long webmaster loyalty lasts.

i don't think that there people just suddenly "came out of nowhere", we've seen this very thing happen before here on GFY Tony... remember way back in Oct of '02, when the great VISA scare began? GFY was suddenly *flooded* w/ new, low post-count users, all wondering about their money and continued collection thereof... exact same thing when GloBill fled w/ the cash, lots of newish users posting often and vehemently about their owed funds...

i think when people suddenly are getting screwed or worried about their money, a lot of them go from silent lurkers to vocal questioners here, no surprise there... just look at my signup date, look familiar? the VISA scare is what had me find my way to GFY the first time as well.. :2 cents:

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