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Forest 10-22-2001 07:43 AM

People like THIS give America a bad name
 
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From: Lincoln, NE USA
Registered: Oct 2001

NickB. 10-22-2001 07:46 AM

why is that?

did I missed something


Forest 10-22-2001 07:48 AM

Rasicm and Predjudice is NOT a good thing

tenletters 10-22-2001 07:53 AM

Not being able to spell Racism and/or Prejudice is a bad thing also.
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Originally posted by Forest:
Rasicm and Predjudice is NOT a good thing

Forest 10-22-2001 07:58 AM

better to be a BAD speller
than a Racist

tenletters 10-22-2001 08:00 AM

What if you were a bad spelling racist?

funkmaster 10-22-2001 08:07 AM

... I guess a bad spelling racist is highly unacceptable!

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Forest 10-22-2001 08:09 AM

What if you were a bad spelling racist?
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ztik 10-22-2001 08:13 AM

IM FROM LINCOLN, NE!

tenletters 10-22-2001 08:26 AM

You ever give someone a bad name? Don't lie!
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Originally posted by ztik:
IM FROM LINCOLN, NE!

lightswitch 10-22-2001 11:00 AM

Whe're all ******s

Sand ******s
Prarie ******s
Bean ******s
Tundra ******s
oh & dont forget Wiggers!

^R3K^ 10-22-2001 11:34 AM

DIE

Speedy26 10-22-2001 03:57 PM

maybe its an arab posting, would that make them racist?? hehehe


Quote:

Originally posted by lightswitch:
Whe're all ******s

Sand ******s
Prarie ******s
Bean ******s
Tundra ******s
oh & dont forget Wiggers!


hey what of the above am i?


tenletters 10-22-2001 04:22 PM

Wasn't the word ****** derived from the word negro which was derived from a German word that simply meant black?

Me being white I suppose I just cannot understand why a word that was okay to use twenty years ago is now racist. I am speaking of the word negro... not ****** which seems to be a word used by people who did not translate the word properly.

^R3K^ 10-22-2001 04:35 PM

die

chass 10-22-2001 06:14 PM

Just wondering.....

Why is it that when a black person calls another black person and forgive me a "******" it's ok? Yet, when a white person calls a black person the same thing it's considered "real bad"--maybe even a racist?

Why Why Why

Can't we all just get along?

tenletters 10-22-2001 06:35 PM

Chass, the word ****** is not used by black people. They are using a different version of the word meaning black ... nigga.

By changing it to "nigga" it seperates itself from it's racist roots as a word used only by people who considered black people to be lesser humans.

The word ****** has instead been "taken" and cannot be used by white people. I have never heard a black man use the word ****** in a sentence (other than Richard Pryor).

tenletters 10-22-2001 06:43 PM

Oh and then German word for black is Niger. You can see how some people got the two G version.

I think it sucks that they were referred to a black in the first place. They are not black... they are all various shades of brown. Look at most word that have black in them... they are all negative (blackballed, blackmailed, etc).

^R3K^ 10-22-2001 06:53 PM

blacklisted, blacksheep..

lightswitch 10-22-2001 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenletters:
[B]Chass, the word ****** is not used by black people. They are using a different version of the word meaning black ... nigga.

By changing it to "nigga" it seperates itself from it's racist roots as a word used only by people who considered black people to be lesser humans.
B]

Sorry but your misstaken.
Your attempts to justify this double edge sword are incorrect. It took us awhile but I had a freind of mine, who is white find another african American in Montana other than me, & use the phrase "What's up Nigga"
It when't about as well as you would expect.
so please dont try & justify it, just let it be, let us have our way just this one little time, okay Honkies?

tenletters 10-22-2001 08:05 PM

Lightswitch,

What did you read into my post?

There simply doesn't have to be any rage over this word that was meant to say only one thing... black.

I can say all this, though, because I am white and don't truly know the feelings such a word stirs inside you.

I want to apoligize my post offended you but it's just a discussion. Not a klan meeting.

I'd love to talk to you more about this. Perhaps over ICQ as it's hard to have convo here.

And quit calling me honky, lol.



tenletters 10-22-2001 08:16 PM

At least you didn't tell me to die this time!

I'm wondering if those words were around before black people were referred to as black and if that has something to do with it?
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Originally posted by ^R3K^:
blacklisted, blacksheep..

rhizome 10-22-2001 08:35 PM

tenletters,

The reason why your post can be taken as offensive is the reason why the term "******" is considered offensive. Yes, blacks were called ******s because of their skin color but by the beginning of the 19th century, they had started taking offence to the use of the term. This, however, only encouraged whites (including many prominent whites) to continue using the term. Their reasoning was of course, "Hey, they're black, they're ******s. This isn't a value judgement; it's a fact." And when the blacks objected, those same whites said, "Look at the etymology of the word. I'm not judging anyone - just calling them for what they are."

It's not so much the term being used to describe their physical characteristics that blacks objected to; rather it was its use by white folks AFTER they knew that blacks took offence to the term and then their attempts to justify its use based on its etymology when they easily could have chosen a term more appealing to the black population.

Aussie Rebel 10-22-2001 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by ^R3K^:
die
huh!



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^R3K^ 10-22-2001 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenletters:
At least you didn't tell me to die this time!

HAHA

Platinum Dave 10-22-2001 08:55 PM

America bad name? what? who thinks bad of them...




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BruceM 10-22-2001 09:01 PM

As far as I know, German for black is "schwarzt"...

tenletters 10-22-2001 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rhizome:
tenletters,

It's not so much the term being used to describe their physical characteristics that blacks objected to; rather it was its use by white folks AFTER they knew that blacks took offence to the term and then their attempts to justify its use based on its etymology when they easily could have chosen a term more appealing to the black population.

I'll have to read back through my posts but I don't think I tried to justify calling anyone ******. I was only debating the words origin and the fact that I hated that the word has grown into more than just a description of a color.

I do agree your explanation of why the word is so taboo now. Lots of bad things have happened in the past but to simply talking about the word is not a basis to be offended.

Without discussion we are doomed to assumption.


tenletters 10-22-2001 09:15 PM

You are thinking of Schwarzes but I am referring to slang. I could be wrong about niger meaning black. Idon't remember the source of that info so it could be bullshit.
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Originally posted by BruceM:
As far as I know, German for black is "schwarzt"...

AaronM 10-22-2001 09:20 PM

Actually tenletters , I have seen many black people refer to them self in this way. There is actually a song by Ice T in which he states "Damn right I'm a ******!" Just to verify the spelling, the song goes on to say "I don't care what you are cause I'm a capital N. I. double G. E. R." Notice it is not nigga?

Now to quote George Carlin... in regards to the word ******: "There is nothing wrong with the word, in and of itself. It is the racist asshole using it that you need to be worried about."

A long time ago (gradeschool) a guy called my mother a slut. I did not even know what the word meant. When I asked my mother about it, she gave me the definition. I asked her if it bothered her that somebody called her that. She told me that since it was not true, it did not bother her at all.

As far as I am concerned, I believe the word is usually used to describe a less than desirable person who is usually black. If the first part of my observation is true then every one of us could be called the same at some point in our life.

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tenletters 10-22-2001 09:45 PM

Okay aaron you say that you've seen this and yet you only mention rappers and comiedians.

I was talking about real life. I've never heard it but I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. Everytime I've heard it, in real life, it's the nigga version.

I think George Carlin is right... it's all in who is saying the word I suppose, and why they are saying it.

The other thing about it being used to describe anyone other than black people I don't get though. Did the word exist before it was used for black people or is someone just trying to justify it's use?

tenletters 10-22-2001 09:46 PM

Oh and Aaron.. your sig looks 100% better without that banner! hehe

AaronM 10-22-2001 09:51 PM

Think about it. sand ******, cactus ******, boat ******, tundra ******.. WIGGER. They are all the same thing. Somebody calling a person of a race, other than black, a ******.

I mention the famous people because if I told you Vanessa said these things.. you would think "who in the hell is Vanessa?"

BTW, she is my neighbor, she is black, & she is VERY cool.

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tenletters 10-22-2001 10:06 PM

Yea I just saw Labret lose his fucking mind in another post that sort of mirrors this one.

I don't have a leg to stand on as long as assholes like that are around. Between people like him and jackasses that claim racism at the drop of a hat... we'll never be where we need to be.

Guess it's just a vicious circle.


rhizome 10-22-2001 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenletters:
Lots of bad things have happened in the past but to simply talking about the word is not a basis to be offended.

Of course there's nothing wrong with discussion. I was just trying to point out that discussion centered around its etymology is a very sensitive issue because that was where the white racists always began when trying to justify its use.

And ****** does come from the Latin niger meaning black and it dates back to at least 1574.


tenletters 10-22-2001 11:09 PM

oh.. it's Latin, sorry about the German reference then.

I kinda hope this thread dies, what with Labret and porn is good raising hell in that other thread! It makes any of my statement mute, for the most part.

Caroline 10-22-2001 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tenletters:
Wasn't the word ****** derived from the word negro which was derived from a German word that simply meant black?



SCHWARZ is black in German... NEGRO means black in spanish.


Heinz 10-23-2001 11:19 AM

The german word for "black" is "******".
You all should know the famous german "****** Forest", the "****** Forest Gateau" and the german "******-and-White-Film" (Fassbinder!!).
And only in the "German ****** Forest" they produce the original cuckoo-clocks (you know, the clock where every 15 min the bird comes out and shouts CuckooCluxClan).

Cicero didn't die for this shit.

rollin 10-23-2001 11:21 AM

Forest,
Did you ever respond to tukhmans post on netpond? Did you even know about it?
I just wanted to see your reply, but i don't think you posted...

Forest 10-23-2001 11:23 AM

never even saw the post



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