So why is it accepted that dating sites shave?
 

"We don't pay for foreign traffic"

Ok lets see what happens.

Guy from Holland signs up for a free membership at datingsite X. Affiliate does not get credit because it's a foreigner. (although you can bet on it that datingsite X WILL use the email to spam....) So the Dutch guy browses around on the site and sees a hot chick. The Dutch guy pulls his cc and pays for a membership. You dont see a penny. So now datingsite X has a free email and got paid without having to share.

A few weeks ago a dating site told me im sending quite some foreign traffic and i wont get credit for that. At that point i had no clue they simply let the guys in and throw a huge "click here to pay for a full membership" text in their face.

I honestly think i lost a few 1000's in payouts this way.

This is simply shaving. I can't find another term for it. I think its insane. Oh wait, maybe stealing is another good term to use.

It'ds the nature of the business unfortunately. I'd send the traffic elsewheres if it's that bad.

perhaps so they can afford high payouts.

i cant fucking believe people pay for dating sites. i need to start one. geez.

Yup, and youre allowed to shave the fuck out of your affiliates...

No reason why but apperantly its normal if you run a dating site.

battuss lets start a new dating site wiht private affili program with no shaving

There are so many nulled dating scripts floating around... It's crazy.

Sure, hold on, im gonna create 200k profiles with pics tonight. Can you do another 100k or so?

what do you do anyway battuss i rememebr talking to you on icq before .. . i think?

How man guys from holland join an english speaking dating site looking for hot singles in New York? I can afford that percent of shave.

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who cares if you can afford it. they are holding out on money you are making for them. :NopeNope

I would shave you too if I had a dating site :batman

I jerk off all day. Probably also when i was talking to you.

i can do that too and still make money it gets boring though :-/

I dont know any numbers but 1 uncredited sale is already too much.
I also like to hear what theyre doing with the emails of those people.

I mean, they dont pay for it because theyre foreign but for some reason i find it highly unlikely they dont use the mails.

Double shave. No pay out for the emails and no payout when a foreigner decides to sign up.

I can't speak for anyone else, but at AFF we pay you for your traffic wherever it comes from. In fact, it's a point of pride for us that we can monetize even the lowest quality foreign traffic -- from places like India, Brazil and Eastern Europe. Anyone who needs a home for their "undesirable" foreign dating traffic, talk to me.


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Give LoveDollars.com a try, I believe they accept all traffic.

Dude... most programs don't pay on foreign hits, not just dating programs and they usually say it clearly enough in their terms and conditions.

If it says so in the terms and you continue to send foreign traffic, you're not getting shaved. You're just not filtering properly.

aff? i need to try sending some traffic there...

You are complaining about a non issue. It is not illegal if they tell you. It is such a small percent of traffic that has your undies in a bunch I would not worry about it. Do they pay you well for your traffic. That is the question you need to answer.

speaking of cheating members/affiliates out of thier money

Btw, get a free membership at any dating site and you will notice they list tons of countries to search for singles, basically any country. Now why the fuck would they do that if they dont want foreign traffic?

Looks like they really like foreign traffic. They seem to spend time and energy on it. I really wonder why if its too "worthless" to pay for it.

I think we're talking about big numbers.

so what sponsor is it you are complaining about? :)

Why would i fucking filter? If they dont like foreign traffic they shouldnt take it, yet they take it, they love it, they convert it, they just dont pay out on it.

Tell me why? Other then simply being a thief. Give me one good reason why a dude from Brazil who I fucking sent signs up and i dont get credit. Give me 1 good reason.

Yes they pay out well now i know why, because they steal it right back from me....and most likely more than im getting paid.

That the truth :thumbsup

Hit me up.

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Dude, straight up, you have nothing to bitch about. I'm sure whatever program you're complaining about clearly states in their terms and conditions that they don't pay for foreign joins.

I'm sure, being a good webmaster and having at least half a brain, that you read the terms and conditions in their entirety before signing up and checking the box agreeing to the terms, right?

They don't have to give you a reason. If they say they won't pay on foreign traffic and you continue to send foreign traffic, it's your problem, not theirs. It's therefore your responsibility to filter it, not theirs.

"Ring"


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Yes im a moron for thinking they wouldnt even let these people sign up. I knew they didnt pay on foreign traffic. I didnt know theyre actually cashing in those people since they dont have to share it with the affiliate. Not using my foreign traffic i totally understand...if its worthless for you. USING my foreign traffic and keeping all the profit from my traffic is plain and simple thievery.

Personally, I send a shit load of traffic to AAC. They only pay on US joins. So I only send them US traffic. And I capitalize on the other traffic in other ways.

I also send a lot to WEGCash. They don't pay on joins from a ton of foreign countries, so I don't send them traffic from those countries.

In both cases, these conditions were clearly laid out in the terms and conditions that I read and agreed to before signing up for the program and sending traffic.

Simple, no?

It doesnt show up...
try to add me.

Whats your icq, i'll add you.

Yes im a moron for thinking they wouldnt even let these people sign up. I knew they didnt pay on foreign traffic. I didnt know theyre actually cashing in those people since they dont have to share it with the affiliate. Not using my foreign traffic i totally understand...if its worthless for you. USING my foreign traffic and keeping all the profit from my traffic is plain and simple thievery.

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A better line in the terms would be:
"we dont payout on your foreign traffic yet we covnert it and keep the profit in our own pockets"

"ps: we also mail the fuck out of them for datingsites who accept foreign traffic"

"pps: haha loser, we're stealing 1000's from you and we can because our terms so say so and people like spyko4652 defend us cause he likes it when people steal"

Haha... dude, what aren't you understanding? It's not theivery. The terms clearly say they won't pay you for it. What do you expect them to do? Redirect it all to a blank page saying "sorry" in 200 languages?

If you know you're not getting paid on those hits from Uzbekistan, why not send them somewhere else? Why send them to a program that you know won't pay for them, regardless of what they do with it?

Seems to me like you should be pissed at yourself for not attempting to capitalize on every single hit you have.

Give me 1 reason why they shouldnt pay out on a brazilian dude who paid 40 bucks for his membership. Give me one good reason.

Are you retarded, dude?

No one is stealing or cheating of shaving. You're only cheating yourself by throwing your traffic at a program that clearly tells you they're not gonna pay you for it.

You say you've allegedly lost thousands, yet you don't know the first thing about capitalizing on your traffic and you seem to know very little about the in and outs of how affiliate programs work. Something is not adding up.

Give me 1 reason why they shouldnt pay out on a brazilian dude who paid 40 bucks for his membership. Give me one good reason.