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mkx 11-18-2004 06:28 PM

Online Poker Fanchise
 
Does anyone here own an online poker game or franchise? What is some good providers out there for franchises and are they bringing in money?

Giorgio_Xo 11-18-2004 06:38 PM

Alot of companies offer co-branded and franchise poker site opportunities.

http://www.tribecatables.com/
http://www.bossmedia.se/
http://www.iglobalmedia.com/custombrandlabels.html
http://www.microgaming.com/
http://www.pokerincorporated.com/
http://www.dobrosoft.com/

mkx 11-18-2004 07:11 PM

Great! Just what I needed. Do you know the pricing of lisencing for these companies? Specifically iglobalmedia?

Nicky 11-18-2004 07:19 PM

Just what I was looking for :thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 11-18-2004 07:23 PM

I have about 20 more links. Let me sort them out.

Webmaster_Logic 11-18-2004 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raulph
Great! Just what I needed. Do you know the pricing of lisencing for these companies? Specifically iglobalmedia?
i would like to know about iglobalmedia as well :glugglug

mkx 11-18-2004 07:28 PM

Thanks, if you can include some prices you are aware of that would be swell since I know a lot of them are very high priced and the sales managers are hard to reach

mkx 11-18-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
i would like to know about iglobalmedia as well :glugglug
I ponder 6 digits :(

Webmaster_Logic 11-18-2004 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raulph
I ponder 6 digits :(
That aint bad considering how much money there is to make. :glugglug

mkx 11-18-2004 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
That aint bad considering how much money there is to make. :glugglug
Add me to icq, we will keep in touch about our poker franchise venture

Giorgio_Xo 11-18-2004 07:43 PM

Dobrosoft is the least expensive $3000. I know another program that costs around $5000.

mkx 11-18-2004 07:45 PM

Have you heard of americancardroom or something like that? They are about $15,000. Wagerlogic.com is another one and they are about $50,000.

mkx 11-18-2004 07:48 PM

I am a bit confused. Americascardroom has their own franchise program but they are listed as a client of Debrosoft? http://dobrosoft.com/clients.html Any more info on Debrosoft besides what I can read on their website?

Webmaster_Logic 11-18-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raulph
Add me to icq, we will keep in touch about our poker franchise venture
added :glugglug

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raulph
I am a bit confused. Americascardroom has their own franchise program but they are listed as a client of Debrosoft? http://dobrosoft.com/clients.html Any more info on Debrosoft besides what I can read on their website?


www.adultpokertour.com uses Dobrosoft.

America's Card room is our Francisher

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:08 AM

6 Digits is WAY TO STRONG of an investment for any of the skins on the shitty sites listed above - If you want to talk to someone who has been there done that, wrtie me at [email protected] ....


I'm SURE Jeff from Adult Poker Tour, Serge, Colin, any of the old timers will tell you I have been messing around in this market for a long time.

If you are serious, want to know the advertising budget you need what software providers are worth going with which aren't (due to their reputation in the indsury) along with ANY oher questions you may have write me

ryan1978 at insightbb dot com

BTW, Jeff I might holler at you soon ... Dobro needs 1/2 million in deals made and they could be a viable network until they do they do NOT have a chance - PERIOD!

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:11 AM

For I Global Media, plan on MULTIPLE THINGS

#1) Atleast Six figures for low payout software licensing
#2) A minimum proof of 7 digits for advertising
#3) Competing with a bunch of other skins that you have no chance in hell of doing so....

If you have say 5 Million dollars I Gloabl Media is an opportunity WELL Worth going after, otherwise do not even inquire - They WILL LAUGH directly to your face...

Ryan Lanane

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml1608
For I Global Media, plan on MULTIPLE THINGS

#1) Atleast Six figures for low payout software licensing
#2) A minimum proof of 7 digits for advertising
#3) Competing with a bunch of other skins that you have no chance in hell of doing so....

If you have say 5 Million dollars I Gloabl Media is an opportunity WELL Worth going after, otherwise do not even inquire - They WILL LAUGH directly to your face...

Ryan Lanane


Ryan, sorry to hear about YPN software going under and leaving Nutz Poker out of business.



what are your plans now?



Pat

Adult Poker Tour

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:23 AM

Hey Pat, I have a few - My number one plan is avoiding new companies who are in the market who fill you with false promises of what they can/will provide.

On the positive side even thoguh YPN Went under EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IS BEING PAID. No If's, And's, or But's!! We allreayd have one player with over $1750 in cashouts pending after I sent him the warning letter when I found out that has recieved all but $250 as of 2 days ago....

Haven't heard from him since when I told him to write me next week if the last cashout he processed didn't go through so... so far so good.

As far as my personal plans, well with 1500 player datbase I could get a FREE Skin at ANY of the above mentioned places except IGlobalMedia - but not so sure abut ANY of them for a variety of reasons.


If you want to know the reasons why write me an e-mail and I will tell you personally over the phone - Not that it would be libel nor slander since all statements woul be true but I would rather avoid having a libel lawusit filed agst me for something as stupid as a message posted here... All about legal fees $$$$$$$

Ryan

hydro 12-05-2004 01:26 AM

12 casino games + poker + affiliate tracking + admin backend + 6 custom templates. Will trade it for a good webcam system. Icq is in the sig.

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:30 AM

Watch this hydro dude, doesn't sound reputable - who provided the licensing for the casino software?

You might of stepped into the wrong message bud as I know every casino, poker room, bingo room, etc - That provides software.

Is it Boss Media? I hear they were sort of cheap ... Only reason I can think of you posting such a thing here

Ryan Lanane

hydro 12-05-2004 01:31 AM

i traded my soul for skittles.

Theo 12-05-2004 01:35 AM

if you have 5mil to spend you dont need IGlobalMedia or any other similar co.

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
if you have 5mil to spend you dont need IGlobalMedia or any other similar co.

in the poker industry i think it's too late for anyone to come in. IGlobalMedia(party poker), poker stars, paradise poker, and a few others have the market share and it will stay like that.

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:40 AM

What the hell is the Skittles comment about?

And jesus christ if you have that kind of mentality you have no business teping into ANY business venture - Your $5,000,000 Investment into IGlobalMedia would "NET" the same 5 MIL within 6- MONTHS

I would put 12- 18 months as your profit point...

All of your 5 million back PLUS money back after that point, don't EVER be so short sighted as to say "If you have 5 million why spend it on a investment at xxxxxx"

That is about the stupidest god damn thing I have EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE!!!!

I most likely won't re till I get up tomorrrow but anyone interested in the skinyy on this market contact me. No I don't get kick backs but would be nice to see someone save the $30,000 I wasted on a bust out business with oly a player database to shwo for it ... :mad:

rml1608 12-05-2004 01:43 AM

Pat, SO UNTRUE!!!!!


Come on Buddy you know business better hen that! :o)

Paradise poker was just SOLD for about 350 million I believe to a sportsbook site, watch for excessive rowth in fish there over coming months. With the same great support paradise has always had.

They have never licensed out a skin NOR do I think they EVER WILL. Hell they are able to get away with charging vig on REBUYS + ADD-ONS !!!!

NO MARKET IS EVER SO SATURATED IT IS NOT WORTH GETTING INTO "WITH THE RIGHT CONCEPTS"

Ryan L.

hydro 12-05-2004 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml1608
What the hell is the Skittles comment about?

And jesus christ if you have that kind of mentality you have no business teping into ANY business venture - Your $5,000,000 Investment into IGlobalMedia would "NET" the same 5 MIL within 6- MONTHS

I would put 12- 18 months as your profit point...

All of your 5 million back PLUS money back after that point, don't EVER be so short sighted as to say "If you have 5 million why spend it on a investment at xxxxxx"

That is about the stupidest god damn thing I have EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE!!!!

I most likely won't re till I get up tomorrrow but anyone interested in the skinyy on this market contact me. No I don't get kick backs but would be nice to see someone save the $30,000 I wasted on a bust out business with oly a player database to shwo for it ... :mad:

scratch that ive had a few drinks.

I can understand why you'd think im out to scam some people since there are so many scammers in the casino business but my casino soft isn't licensed by any of these big companies. It may not be as realistic as microgaming's tables but i was expecting that when i paid the starving programmers. Good looking out for other people though :thumbsup

Theo 12-05-2004 01:54 AM

Is you sick from the dick or is it the flu?

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml1608
Pat, SO UNTRUE!!!!!


Come on Buddy you know business better hen that! :o)

Paradise poker was just SOLD for about 350 million I believe to a sportsbook site, watch for excessive rowth in fish there over coming months. With the same great support paradise has always had.

They have never licensed out a skin NOR do I think they EVER WILL. Hell they are able to get away with charging vig on REBUYS + ADD-ONS !!!!

NO MARKET IS EVER SO SATURATED IT IS NOT WORTH GETTING INTO "WITH THE RIGHT CONCEPTS"

Ryan L.


This is true. In public I like to downplay it so people don't catch on.:Graucho

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml1608
Pat, SO UNTRUE!!!!!


Come on Buddy you know business better hen that! :o)

Paradise poker was just SOLD for about 350 million I believe to a sportsbook site, watch for excessive rowth in fish there over coming months. With the same great support paradise has always had.

They have never licensed out a skin NOR do I think they EVER WILL. Hell they are able to get away with charging vig on REBUYS + ADD-ONS !!!!

NO MARKET IS EVER SO SATURATED IT IS NOT WORTH GETTING INTO "WITH THE RIGHT CONCEPTS"

Ryan L.


SporttingBet.com had to pay 350 million to get into the ball game.

Theo 12-05-2004 02:41 AM

Internet is still in infancy phase. Better start thinking like that, analyzing and comparing online and offline industries because these capitals create competitive operations on the web at the moment.

IGM started 3 years ago, not in '96. When they started most people they were saying it's hard to enter market etc etc. Internet gambling is indeed hard market and harder than ever at the moment, but this doesn't mean much things. I can tell you innumerable offline operations which are much harder to enter because they require:

- greater knowledge n' technology.
- greater investment
- they have lower ROI margins
- they have way slower cashflow.

and still every day more new operations enter these markets. If everyone had the mentality you find stupid we would have monopolistic markets.

I didn't say that going through IGM isn't a good option; but it's not the only option and for sure it's not the option that will give you independence and priviledges against your competitors.

MissEve 12-05-2004 03:17 AM

who actually owns party poker? I cant believe there are 60k people at peak times now. I took a 30 day break from playing, the fish were killing me and now they seem to be doing their job perfectly! ;)

mkx 12-05-2004 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
in the poker industry i think it's too late for anyone to come in. IGlobalMedia(party poker), poker stars, paradise poker, and a few others have the market share and it will stay like that.
Paradise poker was the 1st or 2nd and Party Poker came along not to long ago and are now the 1st. There is still a couple years left, at least.

mkx 12-05-2004 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MissEve
who actually owns party poker? I cant believe there are 60k people at peak times now. I took a 30 day break from playing, the fish were killing me and now they seem to be doing their job perfectly! ;)
The fish on party poker do suck but I laugh my ass off when it's the other way around and I river someone. I don't think they have 60,000 real money players on at all times, most of them are kids playing for play money

mkx 12-05-2004 03:39 AM

RML, you got mail

DutchTeenCash 12-05-2004 03:41 AM

boss cobranded is around 20k

mkx 12-05-2004 03:45 AM

If I had 5 mil to invest in online poker, there is no way I would concider doing it with Iglobalmedia. For XX,XXX You can get your own fully customized software programmed and market the hell out of it. You can't expect to be the top 3 by using a franchised software and if you have 5mil to invest, becoming top 3 is very possible.

the real magoo 12-05-2004 04:16 AM

check out http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/ :thumbsup

pornstar2pac 12-05-2004 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml1608
Pat, SO UNTRUE!!!!!


Come on Buddy you know business better hen that! :o)

Paradise poker was just SOLD for about 350 million I believe to a sportsbook site, watch for excessive rowth in fish there over coming months. With the same great support paradise has always had.

They have never licensed out a skin NOR do I think they EVER WILL. Hell they are able to get away with charging vig on REBUYS + ADD-ONS !!!!

NO MARKET IS EVER SO SATURATED IT IS NOT WORTH GETTING INTO "WITH THE RIGHT CONCEPTS"

Ryan L.



Ryan, I'll talk to you tomorrow on ICQ about a few things.



Pat

mkx 12-05-2004 07:35 AM

why does it say under your name that adultpokertour.com sucks but then you have the link in your sig :) ?


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