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signups at porncash
Somebody has signups at porncash these days?
It seems they switched on a shaver. |
Porncash = BIG Rip-off.
Dont use them! |
Yep... My signups got cut in half.... Anyone seen a check yet?
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Dudes & Dudettes... as a sponsor that provides free trials I have seen more than my share of total scams.
I'm not going to call anybody names for the sake of politics... but I can tell you that we have had MANY former porncash webmasters come to us. It's quite simply a scam. ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
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conversioncash? Are you a boss there? Can I get commissions by wire? |
I just started using them last month.
can anyone else confirm this " porncash = Rip Off " !? wish u guys would tell me sooner http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif ------------------ Get a head start in the Porn Biz Easy Porn Money Start your own porn site and make lot's of $$$ HunterTGP Trade Traffic here |
Big rip off, yes. You'll be lucky if you get paid.
You'll notice on their web pages they have nothing but a help desk, no email, ICQ, phone number, address, etc.. Don't do it! Cheers, Backov ------------------ AVSBlitz - Build AVS Sites Faster and Better |
Maverick... I'm not the owner but I am in charge of ConversionCash.
If you send enough traffic I'll hoof a fucking bag of cash over to your house ;-))) Seriously though... if you do $1k+ a week we will wire your payments for free... $500+ a week and we'll wire them for a $20 fee. ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
Oh... and in the even that anybody signed up between the hours of 2am and 9am CST you'll need to signup again.
One of our programmers made a booboo when updating the signup page so that it sent you a confirmation email but didn't ever enter the info into the database. ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
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It's quite simply a scam. ----- After having been contacted by porncash, I feel it necessary to retract the comment that "it's quite simply a scam" as i have no direct first hand knowledge that porncash shaves it's webmasters or that porncash webmasters don't get paid. ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
Hooper you pussy. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif
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maverick - I don't thinkyou realize how porncash does business. Honestly.
Porncash allows you to do test signups at any time - we can't shave. I mean you could join up from ANY computer - in ANY office on ANY link and use ANY credit card ANY time - go to an internet cafe for all I care..... Every single signup will count. Meanwhile the average "active member" program is tracked or externally verified how??? On another note - Hooper - try not to be an obvious scare monger mate - it makes you look like a fool. Your program only pays $35 per ACTIVE member - what exactly is that? How does a webmaster KNOW that you don't just jack up the number of cancellations?? Active member programs are a front for companies that shave in my opinion. $35 per active member is likley only $15 a trial signup... |
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heheh - nice tagline :-)
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Hi Gary,
We don't spend all day trolling around the boards - I only heard about this thread this morning... We run a very fair program - that pays all webmasters for all signups - I mean $30 per Free Trial - I get quite angry when uninformed competition try and discredit us.... Anyway - I hope that clears up a few things... :-) ------------------ Make More Money - $30 per FREE TRIAL - Porncash.com |
Money (Mike or Jon?)
I have sent you 3 emails about my account not being paid. You owe me over $1300. Please check you latest emails and reply. Its fine to say 'we pay per trial and dont shave...etc', but do you pay your webmasters??? If anybody can get this money from Porncash for me, I will donate it directly to Red Cross. Wildman. |
Sure, they probably won't shave ya.. Whether they'll pay you or not is another thing altogether.
They ignored my requests for payments, and CONTINUE to spam me.. A webmaster I know has been burnt for $8k. Cheers, Backov ------------------ AVSBlitz - Build AVS Sites Faster and Better |
what is your account id - the extension on your url - not your email address.
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backov, that is completely false.
the most any webmaster has been declined payment for is about $500, for either spamming or using stolen cards. You know stupid things like signing up using their own card, and doing so on the same IP address multiple times etc. Most scammers are small time losers. If you weren't paid it could only be for breach of terms - and you would have been notified of the reason at the time. |
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Are you going to pay only him? |
I admit, the guy I know may have exaggerated the number. In my case, it shows up in your stats as payment made.. But, I never saw it. And repeated requests that you send the damn thing were ignored.
It's funny that you defend your "rep" in public when you don't bother to answer emails at all. Cheers, Backov ------------------ AVSBlitz - Build AVS Sites Faster and Better |
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Hmmmm.. hard to tell what's what here but untill I get my check from PC there off my Xmas list. ( got to go check the mail box http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif |
Money,
As per our email conversation (untill you ignored me), I am owed for 50 signups from 30th July - 9th September. A total of $1576. You 'suspended' my account for 'low conversions' without telling me. Then after I questioned you, you offered me $15 for each signup. Well where is my payment??? My account is 161D6. Wildman. |
wildman,
I believe your account was suspended, not cancelled. I didn't ignore you - that is someone elses job.... ;-) Your cancellation rate is so far higher than "normal" or average account activity that we see with other webmasters, we flagged it as suspicious. You will be paid after we have done further investigations, if necessary commenced fraud proceedings. We do not want any more of your traffic in any case. I might add that the problem with your account is rather unusual - we have only flagged a couple of accounts in this manner, most webmasters send traffic that earns us around $35 per free trial signup after the 3 day trial. Your traffic earned us around $14 - that is a BIG difference. Before I hear the line - hey I just send the traffic - it is your job to retain the member... that is true, and we can live with a bit of variation, but I am sure most of you will realize that fraud and encouraging users to cancel are both things that happen. It is prudent of us to ensure that fraud doesn't occur, ultimately to protect consumers, but also to protect ourselves. thanks |
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Money you are making sense ! however i am waiting for someone ppl to say .. Porncash is A OK ! they pay and pay ontime! |
hi Money, Are you going to send me a $30 check? because I used my own credit card to make a sign up last month, and I am stil a member there. you sites suck. Anyway, just send me a $30 check or you can use it to wipe your dirty azz. I don't know why the hell you set the minimum payout to $100, fuck that, ARS and most of other sponsors pay even 10 bucks. I think you can just rip some newbies like me.
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We do not want any more of your traffic in any case. --- We'll take your traffic and you can go to any public forum anywhere and you will never find anybody who hasn't been paid! ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
That's the cost of doing business. You get shitty traffic from some sites -- you get good traffic from other sites. Some sites will have surfers that are cheap asses -- some sites will have surfers w/ deep pockets. Duh! Do you think that everyone on Amateur Pages per click program is sending traffic worth $.04? Hell no. It's fuckers like you that don't pay for "suspicious activity" that makes this biz suck. That's why I don't use programs of people I don't know personally anymore.
Maybe his surfers didn't like your site because they have higher standards? All traffic is not the same. If you are going to accuse people of suspicious activity because they aren't making you enough money -- then lower your payout or fix your program... Sorry to be a bitch -- this just reminds me too much of the Amateur Beaver bullshit that happened to me and I'm still bitter. Anyway I don't know the specifics of your program so ignore me. |
Thefly, I'll take your advice....
Hooper - if you say that you have paid every single webmaster that has ever cheated you then you are a naive fool..... To be honest if you can only send one signup a week, then it is not worthwhile for us sending a check out.... it just means we can focus our attention on other webmasters - all those that can send 5-10 a day, and those that send more than 50 a day get pretty good treatment from us... Everyone earns $30 a FREE Trial paid weekly, except scammers and cheats of course. That payout is about double what you'd expect from an "active member" scam program. ------------------ Make More Money - $30 per FREE TRIAL - Porncash.com |
Money,
I havent commited any fraud, or encouraged surfers to cancel. Therefore your 'investigation' should be finished. It has been 6 weeks so far. How much longer will it take? Since most of my traffic was from AVS sites, I suspect The Fly was correct when he said they probually expected a higher standard than your sites. Please let me know how long your investigation will take, and why I was not informed that you had suspended my account. Wildman. |
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I was kinda siding with you until you showed your true colors. Cocksucker. |
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[This message has been edited by Gary (edited 09-13-2001).] |
I stand by our program as do the thousands of webmasters who get checks every week.
We work with webmasters who send 1 signup a year or 1 signup a minute. The reason that the biggest programs and freshest wet behind the ears newbies use us is because our checks clear & they arrive on time every week. It sounds like your webmasters have experienced a different kind of treatment. You speak of credit card crammers as though 1/2 of the webmasters out there are scamming you and perpetrating fraud. We run a per-active program with partnership and bonuses that pays extremely well and rewards performance.... I guess in the end that we have a lot in common though because it sounds like you actually run a per-active program too! Has anybody here ever heard of a per-signup program that withholds your checks if your trials don't convert into memberships at an acceptable rate? Next question of course since it's not posted in the terms and conditions is "What is your acceptable rate? 20% 50% 75%?" I for one would rather have 20 bucks in my hand than a promise of 25. ------------------ $35 PLUS 50% AND $1.10/Minute |
I also heard Porncash is run by arabs. So be careful.
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Fuck, i just stubbed my toe! Damn arabs.
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Sorry about the following essay folks?.
Hooper - the way you are carrying on is tantamount to spamming, what are you some sort of advocate of the scamming class? Why the multiple posts on something that doesn't concern you?? Quit bleating about your pissy program.... you are wasting space. Our webmasters get treated pretty well, we pay more than you [like I give a toss about your program anyway] faster than you and we don't scam with an active member system. We pay $30 per free trial. WRT the minimum payments, I was simply answering a question from someone who wanted to know why we set our minimum payout to $100. Pretty simple really ? it cuts down on admin and costs ? if we sent a check for people that sent only one signup a week, it would end up costing us $35 a signup or so? Porncash.com pays weekly 2 days after the end of the pay period - unlike your program that pays 4 weeks later.... 4 signups is all that it takes to earn payment from us. If a webmaster sends one a week - they still get paid a before you guys even think about sending a check! Albeit a much smaller check than we'd send them anyway... 4 signups with any active member program would only be about $68 we?d pay $120 for the same number of signups. No wonder you can afford to pay the scammers!! If you read my earlier post I pointed out that the webmaster with the low retention had a cancellation rate 3 times higher than what we thought was an average rate, this is very very rare, we have suspended about 4 webmasters for this, one of which subsequently got paid. So, no, we are not running a scam like your active member program ? we pay for all free trials. During the past 6 months we have processed 42,035,131raw clicks and 167,255signups. We have grown to around 2000 signups per day now and a bit over 500K raw. I am fairly confident that the webmasters that are sending all this traffic to us are doing so because they get paid on time and paid quite highly. I am also fairly confident that if you ever broke the 100 signups a day mark you?d learn that with this sort of volume you get a few problems with fraud and a few people get upset when they cheat the system and get caught. If you say you don?t get fraud it?s probably coz you don?t get any signups?. Anyone who says otherwise has not one clue about this business? I?m done with Hooper bashing ftm, so if anyone has any further problems we have a webmaster help desk. ------------------ Make More Money - $30 per FREE TRIAL - Porncash.com |
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You still havent answered my question money. I wonder why that is! Wildman. |
money - fuck you
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".....so if anyone has any further problems we have a webmaster help desk."
I think that says it fairly clearly. ------------------ Make More Money - $30 per FREE TRIAL - Porncash.com |
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Why are you so rude to money? Were you unpaid by porncash or anything personal? Tell us. |
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