Civilian death toll in Iraq since invasion exceeds 100,000
 

Report will be published tomorrow.
Iraq death toll 'soared post-war'

Medical Journal Estimates 100,000 Civilian Deaths in Iraq War

Civilian death toll in Iraq exceeds 100,000

Household Survey Sees 100,000 Iraqi Deaths

But we are much safer now. None of those families will want revenge. The more we kill, the more they love us.

heh, oh isn't it grand..

Should have been a million. How many of those were suicide bombs?

That is bad but is dwarfed by the nubmers of Iraqi children who died in the last decade due to lack of medical supplies since the start of sanctions.

How many years would the infame dictator Saddam need to reach such a bodycount?

We should have stuck with our program get saddam out then get out...

I think it's closer to 150k dead http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Anyone ever think that if we had the internet in 1941 we woudlnt have been able to win the war?
There would be a bunch of people pissed that we took apart the japs at Midway. Any reports on most of the pacific fighting where we could lose 10k people in one battle would instantly spark a call to retreat. I guess though, letting arab leaders take their people and countries to pieces through torture, bribes, threats and violence is just so DIFFERENT than when a white guy does it.

George Bush and his administration should be arrested... 100,000 deaths to prevent what exactly? That Hussain MIGHT in 15 years sponsor a terrorist attack that will kill 500 americans.. ? To all Republicans.. the World despises you :2 cents:

One important difference: Iraq didn't attack us. If they had, there would be very little domestic opposition to this war.

In war, whoever leaves their own country and crosses the border into another country to kill those people who live there in their homes are the hostile aggressors. In this conflict, we are the bad guys. Don't let rooting for your hometeam bias you. Just replace 'America' and 'Iraq' with fictitious country names and then re-read the story.

The bottom line is: America now has hundreds of thousands of enemys it didn't have 4 years ago.

It only took a couple dozen people to pull off 9/11. Now we've multipled the number of people who believe America is an imperialistic enemy by 1000%; turned a small gang of thugs into a global army. All they see everyday is us bombing their homes and blowing up their children, patrolling / gunning down people in the street, and they're not going to embrace our presidents excuses or justifications they way americans (sitting safely in comfort watching it on TV) give him a free pass because they've already picked a side.

Whoever wins on Nov 2nd, I'm afraid the invasion of Iraq has created enough hatred among so many that we're in for a generation of retribution/terrorism from those Iraqi's who lost loved ones. But an endorsement of the war from the american people (by re-electing Bush) will certainly make it worse. The whole world is waiting to find out if this is just a rogue administration, or if the american people themselves are responsible.

Whatever threat Bush THINKS he got rid of he just increased by (scientifically speaking) a shitload.

He's made the world a MUCH more dangerous place for us and our offspring.


Trust me I'm TOTALLY not opposed to military action in general. I was in the miliary for over 12 years...but G_D DAMM, even an eye for an eye is put to shame by the low numbers from this mishandled conflict.





What really worries me, as I spent quite a bit of time around these 'fanatics' while I was in the desert, is that they don't let go of grudges very easy to put it lightely. The coallition of the coerced has clearly backed up their fears and fueled their hate.

that should be a bumpersticker dammit...


it's brutally true and it's brutally sad that almost 50% of our population can't comprend that...

I'm just surprised at what i'm seeing here. Death to all republicans is all fine to say but it was only poor engineering that didnt bring down the WTC during the Clinton administration. These people hated us that much then. There have been terrorist actions long before "the last 4 years" but those are all forgotten in the face of blind hatred of Bush.

A very very significant number of the deaths in iraq, including a group of children who were trying to just get some CANDY are due to very random attacks by the insurgents that often times dont hurt a single american while killing dozens of innocents.

Everyone walks around today talking about how many jews (and others) would have been saved by attacking Germany in 1937. Its very easy to talk about things like this in hindsight. When someone has the BALLS to do it BEFORE millions die, however, hes attacked in the same way you are doing now.

I thought Bush was pro-life?

:(

"They found the relative risk of death was one-and-a-half times higher for Iraqi civilians after the 2003 invasion than in the preceding 15 months.

That figure jumps to two-and-a-half times higher if data from Falluja - the scene of repeated heavy fighting - is included."

Given that Saddam was boxed in and monitored, probably several hundred...

Jesus..that would be like taking out everyone at a nascar event in one fell swoop.

only idiots keep talking about sanctions, and child deaths in Iraq, have a look at this statistic:

A 1999 State Department report estimated that Saddam had built 48 palaces since 1991, at a cost of approximately $2.2 billion. This was in addition to the 20 or so palaces he possessed prior to the Gulf War

You can buy a lot of medicine for your 'sick children' with 2.2 billion dollars, however Saddam preferred to build a palace, whom is to blame for Iraq's dying children again? sanctions? or the spending of a tyrant?

Couldnt have said it better. Add that to the fact that when the next attack happens here if Bush is in charge we can expect not only martial law but more countries being invaded. It is not out of the realm of possibilities for other nations to form a coalition to put a stop to Bush's hair trigger cowboy attitude.

LOL....

Repeat after me: ESTIMATED ....


Same people as the " stock pile of WMD " ....

Don't forget to vote for Bush on the 3rd ....

We need to teach our soldiers to shoot better, and we need bigger bombs.

Ohhh and we need FEWER politicians to get in the way of war, for god sakes let us kill the bastards dont send our guys over there to sit and be targets then them shoot first kill ALL and come home.

If it were up to bush we would have killed them all, though many more would be dead they would not be AMERICAN.

What about Vietnam? We could have that over with n 2 weeks too, but we were NOT ALOUD to attack them they had to attack us first, and I say that is BULL SHIT.

For what ever reasons our governments gets us in to these wars for gods sake let us kill the fuggers and get our guys and gals home.

Then get your fucking ass over there and start killing them like you think they should be killed.

If you were a program, you'd be compiled in idiot++

It's a fact he built all of those palaces after the war, further if you saw the news each one of those was lined with marble, gold and all fine furnishing, some how morons like yourself take any comment refuting a statement to be 'pro bush' get a fucking grip.

The statement was Saddam let his people die, and it had nothing to do with sanctions, he managed to get all of the building materials into the country for his palaces, he managed to get night vision and GPS jamming equipment into the country and other military equipment, by choice he sat by in his palaces and left people to die.

yup :thumbsup

You can't buy that medicine when you're not allowed to import it. Heck they wheren't able to import pipes to get clean water.

managed to get them for his palaces internal water supply, and all of their fountains? managed to get all sorts of military equipment in after the sanctions, pretty lame argument if you ask me.

Saddam wasn't Hitler. Saddam was a very loyal ally of the USA until he pissed off Bush Sr's friends in Saudi Arabia.

Saddam asked our permission before invading Kuwait, and we said we didn't care. Then the Saudi Royal Family objected and the US had to suddenly start demonizing him to justify our change in position.

Today on FOX News they still crucify him for actions that the United States paid for.

It would have been great if Saddam had really been as effective as Hitler with respect to military victories. It would have been good news for us if he had knocked off Iran and converted them into a secular state. Now, without our dog Saddam, there is no buffer left between the goals of the USA and the goals of radical Islam. We are taking all the heat ourselves. It was much better when the fundamentalists blamed Saddam for killing clerics.. now we're going to get all the blame and hatred directed towards us, and we're going to take all the hits...

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Read this sh*t


Fuc*ed up!

You're comparing Saddam, a leader of a third world country that doesn't even have much of an army to Hitler?
If Saddam is Hitler, I don't wanna know what Kim Jong Il is :)
And how about Sudan then? Or is genocide okay when it involves black people?

I swear if bush was gonna start killing civs, he might as well wiped them all out. now bush made the U.S.A look like the scum of the earth (oh, I think we might have been that already) instead of looking like the evil dictators we really are.

I'd rather look like the evil bad guy than a dickhead. :disgust

They had clean water, it just wasn't available to everyone because they needed new pipes,
Yes, he got military equipment that he was allowed to get.

LOL ... repeat over and over again....

What the fuck is your hard-on about Saddam???

And since when the Americans gives a shit about " the iraqi people" ...

Meanwhile, great liberation and freedom.

PS: They, the iraqis, want your hairy butts out of THEIR country...

Yes, bodies will decompose over the centuries and oil will be available ....:)

yes, and there is the key "everyone" it was available to Saddam Hussein because he had millions of dollars, and put his lifestyle over that of the Iraqi people, as for the arm's --what about the weapon systems he was not allowed to procure? like the GPS Jamming equipment purchased from Russian companies, and other equipment like night vision googles, Kornet Anti-Tank missiles which were supposed to be restricted?

Not to worry, you Canadians have your share of the blood money -- after all your pension plans are heavily invested in the war machine.

With his 2+ Billion dollars Saddam built palaces, and let his people starve.

Canada invested 2+ Billion dollars into the U.S war machine for pension profit and call on the evils of the 'unjust' war.

people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

While Saddam was getting rich.