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KRL 09-19-2004 03:25 PM

Israel Is So Good At Taking Out Terrorists
 
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Former Hamas militant leader Khaled Abu Shamiyeh.

:thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 09-19-2004 03:29 PM

So good that they can't stop the endless suicide attacks...

We need to stop praising Israel for their security. If their ability to stop terrorism was so good wouldn't the Palestinians have stopped by now? Israel is the problem not the Arabs. The day we as Americans realize this we will be alot safer.

WarChild 09-19-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
So good that they can't stop the endless suicide attacks...

We need to stop praising Israel for their security. If their ability to stop terrorism was so good wouldn't the Palestinians have stopped by now? Israel is the problem not the Arabs. The day we as Americans realize this we will be alot safer.

A VERY tiny percentage of planned attacks actually go off in Israel. MANY more are stopped or contained.

Their airline is probably the most secure in the world.

Israel has been dealing with these attacks, constantly, for a very long time. They are MUCH better than say America at dealing with it.

KRL 09-19-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
So good that they can't stop the endless suicide attacks...

We need to stop praising Israel for their security. If their ability to stop terrorism was so good wouldn't the Palestinians have stopped by now? Israel is the problem not the Arabs. The day we as Americans realize this we will be alot safer.

I'm just saying they are good at taking out terrorists. Its amazing how they nail these guys from helicopters right into their individual cars.

The Arabs are as much a problem as Israel by the way.

baddog 09-19-2004 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
So good that they can't stop the endless suicide attacks...

We need to stop praising Israel for their security. If their ability to stop terrorism was so good wouldn't the Palestinians have stopped by now? Israel is the problem not the Arabs. The day we as Americans realize this we will be alot safer.

the only way that the endless attacks will end is if Israel takes out the entire Arab world

Drake 09-19-2004 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the only way that the endless attacks will end is if Israel takes out the entire Arab world
Or vice versa. But we shouldn't talk about that because we cannot condone such a thing from either side.

Crazy1 09-19-2004 03:47 PM

It is very mountanous terrain out there but the mountains are not more than say 2 or 3 thousand feet high. These helicopters gunships pop up over the top of some mountains and bam there they are..

You cannot hear them coming and if they are coming for you before you can even pick a hiding place they will be pounding you.

Heli Gunship.

baddog 09-19-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
Or vice versa. But we shouldn't talk about that because we cannot condone such a thing from either side.
the Arab world has tried several times to try and take out Israel. . . they just keep getting their ass kicked when they do . . . then we make Israel give them their land back

Digipimp 09-19-2004 03:51 PM

If they were really that good they would have solved their terrorist problem by now. I don't think it's being good at taking out terrorists to be able to hit a car with a missle in a fucking small ass area that you occupy and control with your whole military. That's target practice like playing a video game, not anything special.

WarChild 09-19-2004 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
If they were really that good they would have solved their terrorist problem by now.
The world won't let them eradicate the entire Muslim population.

Digipimp 09-19-2004 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
The world won't let them eradicate the entire Muslim population.
The world couldn't do it if they wanted to either.

WarChild 09-19-2004 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
The world couldn't do it if they wanted to either.
A few well placed tactical nuclear weapons would go a long way.

Once the Muslim States are all destroyed, what's left in democratic countries would pose little threat.

The Arab World's millitary as a whole is laughable.

I'm not condoning this type of slaughter. I'm just saying technically, it's possible. Of course the world wouldn't stand for it.

Drake 09-19-2004 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
A few well placed tactical nuclear weapons would go a long way.

Once the Muslim States are all destroyed, what's left in democratic countries would pose little threat.

The Arab World's millitary as a whole is laughable.

I'm not condoning this type of slaughter. I'm just saying technically, it's possible. Of course the world wouldn't stand for it.

True. It is technically possible but the world wouldn't stand for it. The world wouldn't stand for it because 1) it's a slaughter where more innocent people than terrorists would die by the millions and 2) once you agree to annihiliate a people/nation like that who's to say that your people aren't going to be next, next time some disagreement arises between nations. It's the type of slippery slope no nation is willing to go down.

WarChild 09-19-2004 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
True. It is technically possible but the world wouldn't stand for it. The world wouldn't stand for it because 1) it's a slaughter where more innocent people than terrorists would die by the millions and 2) once you agree to annihiliate a people/nation like that who's to say that your people aren't going to be next, next time some disagreement arises between nations
Absolutely agree.

Islam is not a violent religion. It's warm and loving. It has problems, especially in regards to Women's rights, but none the less mostly a peaceful religion.

Islamic extremists are hijacking a peaceful religion. This is generating hate towards all Muslims.

I honestly belive the only way to truley solve the Terrorist problem, is for the moderate Islamic world to raise up and collectively say "No longer in our name".

Islam, as I understand it, is a realitvely new religion still. Where as Christianity has already undergone an evolution (for the most part) from the days of crusades, Islam has not yet.

I do not think we can kill the Terrorist problem. It has to be bred out. Hopefully it isn't pushed to the point of "us vs. them" before such change can naturally happen.

thunder99 09-19-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the only way that the endless attacks will end is if Israel takes out the entire Arab world

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the Arab world has tried several times to try and take out Israel. . . they just keep getting their ass kicked when they do . . . then we make Israel give them their land back

baddog
Intellectual Terrorist

Intellectual????

Nothing personal baddog, but theres nothing intellectual about comments like that.

project_naughty 09-19-2004 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild


Islam is not a violent religion. It's warm and loving.

So, what you're saying is that you've never read the Qu'ran and Hadiths.

Go read them, and if you can come back here and repeat what you said then I'll arrange for you to have a labotomy.

Drake 09-19-2004 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Absolutely agree.

Islam is not a violent religion. It's warm and loving. It has problems, especially in regards to Women's rights, but none the less mostly a peaceful religion.

Islamic extremists are hijacking a peaceful religion. This is generating hate towards all Muslims.

I honestly belive the only way to truley solve the Terrorist problem, is for the moderate Islamic world to raise up and collectively say "No longer in our name".

Islam, as I understand it, is a realitvely new religion still. Where as Christianity has already undergone an evolution (for the most part) from the days of crusades, Islam has not yet.

I do not think we can kill the Terrorist problem. It has to be bred out. Hopefully it isn't pushed to the point of "us vs. them" before such change can naturally happen.

I know nothing about Islam, the Koran (Qu'ran?), Muslims etc. I do know they have to clean their own backyard on a lot of issues.

I think there are two seperate issues here which you and a lot of other people are melding into one. There is 1) there own backyard (just as we have our own backyard problems) and 2) international relations - that is, how the Arab world is dealt with compared to Israel by powerful nations such as America. I think this is where you're seeing the terrorist problem coming from. Not the fact that they degrade women. We have no involvement with there ways as it stands. Our politicians will say that we're over there to change those things, but it's not (but it's a convincing pretense apparently to many Americans). We're there for political reasons like financial gain, and nothing more.

Giorgio_Xo 09-19-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the only way that the endless attacks will end is if Israel takes out the entire Arab world
Who says Israel are the "good guys"?

WarChild 09-19-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
So, what you're saying is that you've never read the Qu'ran and Hadiths.

Go read them, and if you can come back here and repeat what you said then I'll arrange for you to have a labotomy.

The Old Testament is ripe with examples of religious violence aswell. All of these stories (that's all they are in my mind) were written in a much different time.

Your average moderate Christian and Muslim are not vengeful killers.

sh33p 09-19-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
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Former Hamas militant leader Khaled Abu Shamiyeh.

:thumbsup

Should just glaze over the Middle East with a few nukes and get Walmart to move in there....

baddog 09-19-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by thunder99
baddog
Intellectual Terrorist

Intellectual????

Nothing personal baddog, but theres nothing intellectual about comments like that.

just stating the facts

baddog 09-19-2004 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Who says Israel are the "good guys"?
I haven't heard about too many Israelis strapping bombs on themselves and riding a bus thru a Palestinian neighborhood

baddog 09-19-2004 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Who says Israel are the "good guys"?
and I meant the endless attacks on Israel

baddog 09-19-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I do not think we can kill the Terrorist problem. It has to be bred out. Hopefully it isn't pushed to the point of "us vs. them" before such change can naturally happen.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh oh, you kids

WarChild 09-19-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh oh, you kids
I'm 30 years old, thank you.

Care to elaborate on what you find so amusing?

Drake 09-19-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I haven't heard about too many Israelis strapping bombs on themselves and riding a bus thru a Palestinian neighborhood
If you didn't have guns, tanks, and bombs to fight with, you may do the same if you were in their situation.

Is an Isreali bomb blowing up children any better than a suicide bomber? What does it matter the weapon used? One is a human weapon, the other is a piece of metal.

baddog 09-19-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I'm 30 years old, thank you.

Care to elaborate on what you find so amusing?

the idea that you are going to breed out the hatred that has been bred in for centuries

Drake 09-19-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the idea that you are going to breed out the hatred that has been bred in for centuries
Are Germans still killing jews by the millions like they were in 1945, a mere 60 or so years ago? It's an age old hatred they had.

baddog 09-19-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
If you didn't have guns, tanks, and bombs to fight with, you may do the same if you were in their situation.

Is an Isreali bomb blowing up children any better than a suicide bomber? What does it matter the weapon used? One is a human weapon, the other is a piece of metal.

the difference is that Israel is not targeting civilians

sexeducation 09-19-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
So good that they can't stop the endless suicide attacks...

We need to stop praising Israel for their security. If their ability to stop terrorism was so good wouldn't the Palestinians have stopped by now? Israel is the problem not the Arabs. The day we as Americans realize this we will be alot safer.

Are you out of your fucking mind.
The day the Palestinians stop TEACHING IN SCHOOL to hate Israel and the Americans - IT WILL TAKE A GENERATION - to fix the problems.

They are taught that suicide bombing will make them a Martyr in SCHOOL ...

WarChild 09-19-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the idea that you are going to breed out the hatred that has been bred in for centuries
Killing them isn't working any better.

At one time, Christians roamed the Earth forcing their beliefs on people. Don't convert, you get killed.

Were all the Christians killed off or did this violent crusading naturally evolve out?

I don't mean this as an insult, but have ever travelled outside of your home country?

You can't kill desperation. When people are desperate enough to blow themselves up, the threat of death holds little weight.

Drake 09-19-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the difference is that Israel is not targeting civilians
If the only people you can target are civilians, then you will target civilians. What do you expect? You want them to walk in front of Isreali tanks and soldiers to fight with their napsack?

As I said before, YOU may do the same if it's the ONLY way you could fight.

baddog 09-19-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
Are Germans still killing jews by the millions like they were in 1945, a mere 60 or so years ago? It's an age old hatred they had.
not that I know of, however, there was not centuries of hatred bred into the hatred of Jews by the Germans, and we blew them to kingdom come to prevent them from continuing their slaughter

Drake 09-19-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
not that I know of, however, there was not centuries of hatred bred into the hatred of Jews by the Germans, and we blew them to kingdom come to prevent them from continuing their slaughter
Regarding the hatred of Jews in Europe, you need to read some history. Seems you're lacking on information there.

Also you were at war with a nation that wanted to take over the world that had a strong army. Yeah, we blew them away and they gave up.

baddog 09-19-2004 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Killing them isn't working any better.

At one time, Christians roamed the Earth forcing their beliefs on people. Don't convert, you get killed.

Were all the Christians killed off or did this violent crusading naturally evolve out?

I don't mean this as an insult, but have ever travelled outside of your home country?

You can't kill desperation. When people are desperate enough to blow themselves up, the threat of death holds little weight.

desperation? give me a break, the only thing Palestinians are desperate for is the elimination of the State of Israel . . . they refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist . . . it is that simple

Raf1 09-19-2004 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I haven't heard about too many Israelis strapping bombs on themselves and riding a bus thru a Palestinian neighborhood
but you've probably seen the Israeli army destroying whole villages and towns...

Drake 09-19-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I don't mean this as an insult, but have ever travelled outside of your home country?
Do you even have to ask? Is it not already crystal clear by his comments?

WarChild 09-19-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the idea that you are going to breed out the hatred that has been bred in for centuries
Are you suggesting that if you took a group of Arab Children, and raised them in isolation, they'd still grow up to be Natural Born Killers?

Of course not! It's a product of enviroment, not genetics.

Drake 09-19-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Raf1
but you've probably seen the Israeli army destroying whole villages and towns...
The news that he watches doesn't show this and doesn't show the bloodshed that it causes.

catharsis 09-19-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I haven't heard about too many Israelis strapping bombs on themselves and riding a bus thru a Palestinian neighborhood

really ? that's because you don't know your history very well. The state of Israel was founded with the Torah in one hand and a machinegun in the other.

Do you recall what happened between the 1900's and today ? How many Jews were living in Palestine and how many Arabs ? Are you aware that Jews started coming to that land as settlers and moving Arabs out ?

Did you hear about Jewish terrorism ? That's how they founded that state. King David hotel bombing ring a bell ? They terrorized and killed anyone in their way. They may pose as cute innocent lamb with Netyanahu talking his way out of anything brought against them, but they are not. They are religion crazy as the Muslims and they will do anything for a pathetic piece that their book says belongs to them.

Go read some more before you talk. They have bulldozed and erased thousands of Palestinian villages just to get their land, because it's sacred to them. Must be easy when all they had to fight was Palestinian peasants and they had monetary support from all the rich Jews in Britain and US.

Learn history so you can understand the present. Don't go judging a situation based on your 30 sec Fox news clip.


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