What is Kerry's Stance on the War in Iraq?
 

Seems to be a lot of Kerry supporters in here (or maybe just Bush haters) and I haven't really seen it mentioned anywhere so I ask you: What is Kerry's stance on the war in Iraq?

Seeing how you guys are such staunch supporters of Kerry/Edwards I'd figure you would have the answer.

I've seen him and Edwards tip-toe around the subject but neither of them have presented a steadfast gameplan or even a minute clue. Other than stating the obvious like there should have been more planning, what else have they discussed about what they'll do differently in Iraq if they were elected?

Don't be afraid to admit you don't know and if you're not a Kerry supporter just a Bush hater then that's ok, too. Nothing to be ashamed of here amongst friends.

I'm all ears. :bigears

im a bush hater :thumbsup

how are man... i dont see you on AIM any more

I like your honesty.

I've been sick for the past week and haven't wanted to deal with people on AIM. I'm getting better now so I'll be back on sometime soon. :thumbsup

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nati...rity/iraq.html

from the horses mouth so to speak.

good stuff :thumbsup

draw international support.

continue trying to restructure.

Kerry has said over and over again (keep in mind you WONT here someone like Tucker on crossfire admit it) that his plan is to re-build the burned bridges to our allies and bring them back in to the iraq mess.

If thats too general, then dont blame the messenger. How can a candidate who isn't already president give anything clearer?

What you should be asking is what Bushes plan is! LOL! His own assesment group said it was failing back in in July. Yesterday the republican senator on the armed services commitee said we have to stop living in a fantasyland thinking we're winning..

Maybe you should seriously ask Bush what his plan is. He's the president. He seems to think we're doing great.. nothing wrong.. no blame on himself for anything.. nothing but "let freedom ring!" "freedom is on the march"

blah blah blah.. it's all misdirection dude. Look to the source.

Kerry's plan is to bring in the UN and other nations to help relieve some of the pressure on US troops. And let the WORLD help deal with the mess Bush has gotten us into rather then the US bearing the brunt and the burden alone.

Bush cannot do that because he has lost his credibility and it would piss off the VP and haliburton would lose MILLIONS.

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I don't care for either of the two main guys.

I hope that they pull out of Iraq and go after the real war criminal, Osama Bin Laden.

I agree 100% with you on that one.

If Bush supporters understood what attacking Iraq and removing the secular dictator there really means to the future of America, they would punish him at the polls. When somebody makes bad decisions, the first step to solving things is to stop letting that person make decisions. (duh)

I feel sorry for Kerry having to somehow come up with an optimistic-sounding plan to fix Bushs mess. The options there are very limited and it is going to be hard for him to differentiate himself.

If America re-elects Bush, the world will no longer see the American People and The Bush Administration seperately. Right now, the world is very angry at this administration, but most don't hold us (the citizens) responsible. They keep the last 80 years of (mostly positive) history in mind and assume that our government has just been hijacked by extremists. That in our 2000 elections we didn't really know what we were voting for. Bush, in his first campaign, said he was against using the US military the way he is today. It's not our fault; we didn't know what he would do. However that attitude will immediately change if Americans give this administration a second term. We will no longer be given the benefit of the doubt. We will be politically shunned and alone in our fights.

If Kerry is elected, that will go a long way toward erasing the illwill created by GW when he ignored the UN, and help to rebuild our good relationships with the world.

Spoken very well! :thumbsup

kerry sux ass

Despite the left wing talking points parroted here, he has a position that is the most politically expedient to the audience he is addressing at the time....



John Kerry 9/7/04 "Iraq is the wrong war, in the wrong time and in the wrong place."

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John Kerry on 9/8/04 "Iraq is a part of the War On Terror."


This is John Kerry

The only thing he is consistent about is increasing taxes , and weakening the military and intelligence agencies.

Depends what day it is.

funny.... but true, we are in some deep shit if Kerry gets elected.

Kerry is a fuck up waiting 2 happen.

In your opinion who or what is this world I keep hearing about?

:Graucho



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I agree, that was a great post by CamChicks.

In my opinion it no longer matters what his stance is on the war because we are already at war. It is to late to be for or against it.

Not only that, but lets give Kerry the benefit of the doubt for a second and think about something I have not seen anyone mention. It has to do with leadership so actually give this idea some thought.

Kerry may very well become the commander and chief of the U.S. military, these are the people he is going to have to depend on to help him clean up the mess created by Bush.

More fighting and more time may very well be needed, Kerry will not under even the best of cirumstances be able to immediatly pull out of Iraq the second he becomes President. Now, how can you expect troops to stay and continue to do their jobs effectively and safely if you have run a campaign about how opposed to their efforts you are? Even though you are against the President's decisions (as he has stated many many times that he is) you have to be very careful to not dishearten our soldiers or create disgrunteled soldiers that we will still depend on.

This is not the way to create a more hopeful enviroment and boost the moral of the soldiers. And Kerry, being a VET himself realizes this and is smart enough to be very careful when dealing with this very sensitive issue.


As for as what he will do differently (what he would have done makes no difference because it has already been done). He has stated he will go to the U.N. and appeal for their involvment and coorperation. I do not think this means giving in to whatever they want, I think it means being tough and standing our ground but still be able to reconnect with our former allies. He has said he will rebuild our friendships in the world that have been destroyed by Bush, and I think that can be done, but obviously not by Bush.

I think this will also be the first REAL step in winning the war on terror, the more friends we have in the world the better off we will be in the war against terrorist.

If he stays strong he will not only win the respect of the world but he will win back our friends and we will be a stronger country because of it.

We must improve the moral of our troops, we must work with the rest fo the world to develop a plan on how to stabalize Iraq and make it safe for the citizens of Iraq and we must help them rebuild their country. America has lost of credibility in the region, this job cannot be done by us, ourselves. We may very well have to face the fact that it will take our dollars but the work of other nations to pull it off.

Because of the current mess we have there I do not think that is to much to ask. We owe those people a great deal after what we have done to them and we must make things right no matter what it takes, even if that means stepping back and letting other countries take over.

But there is no amount of help that will bring thier lost lives or ours back, we can only repair the damage and hope to repair our friendships.

If you want the answer in Kerry's own words, and can stand to watch him for about 12 minutes without throwing up, this is the answer.....


http://media1.stream2you.com/rnc/072304v2.wmv

I don't think most Americans quite realize how much the attitude of other nation's will change towards Iraq if you elect Kerry. If Kerry wins he'll be able to get UN troops from a lot of nations there in a year or two, tops. Bush will NEVER get that support, because the world knows he'll use it to start another war.

Like it or not that's the way it is, and it's Bush's fault for trying to lie to other nations about Iraq. Yes people who watch CNN will fall for propaganda, but educated leaders of state don't.

the dems are so busy hating bush, that they still can't see thru kerrys double talk. it's fuckin hilarious.

Peace will not be won easily regardless of who becomes US President. It doesn't matter how much International Support the future President gets either.

Think of it this way. If a powerful country invaded America and said they were going to replace Bush with a better President and better form of government (and maybe take some of your valuable natural resources so they can make a profit), would you sit back and say "Thanks!" or would you pick up your legally owned Assault weapons and begin blowing away the invading army one by one, and say to them "F-ck you! WE will choose our own government leaders. I may not like Bush, but it's OUR country and WE will decide, not YOU. Get out of MY country!"?

Most of us patriots would do that latter. Now do you understand a little better one of the reasons why American troops are being blown to bits in the streets of Iraq?

Thats funny, you used the phrase "left wing talking points parroted" and then you go on to parrot the right wing talking points.

Good job to think for yourself :)

shhh, let them be, it's funny.

Kerry is the one doublespeaking all the time, lol.

Funny that you are so blinded by "dem hating" that you cannot see through Bush's double talk.

Lets see what happened to "compassionate conservatism," what about all this "bi-partisin politics" we heard so much about during the 2000 election? I never those words again until he started begging for our votes again.

What about "Leave no Child Behind," except for the ones that need our help.

What about "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction." Never found those either.

What about cutting taxes, but only if you can afford to pay them in the first place.

Or how about more recently when the Iraq Intelligence releases a report stateing in plain words that winning the peace in Iraq is hopeless and Bush proclaims this to be a victory and says things are going just like he wanted them.
(That was today)

Or when the Fed announced that we again for the 3rd straight year ammased record deficit and Bush said that was great news because they had forcasted it to be 5 million dollars worse!!!!

Sure its great news, Your so bad at math you forcasted it wrong to your fucking Dope head.

Please for Christ sakes, stop throwing stones at glass houses, Bush has flip flopped FAR more than Kerry could ever wish to. Bush makes Kerry look like an amateur flip flopper.

I've provided John Kerry quotes and a 12 minute video of Kerry's multiple, inconsistent positions on Iraq.

As the number #1 liberal senator; his anti-military, anti-defence, anti-intelligence, and pro-tax voting record is clear to anyone who has followed his 19 year legislative career. That voting record works fine in the state of Massachustts. It won't work in a presidential race no matter how hard he tries to hide and ignore it.....

You can bet that if Iraq really did have WMD's American troops wouldn't be in Iraq right now. Instead, America would be negotiating with Saddam. We knew all along he had nothing. That's why we went in.

It's the same reason why we're not in North Korea. Because North Korea actually has WMD's, we're not going to land their where they can disintegrate all of our troops with one bomb and knockout New York and every other major American city in response to our invasion.

For Korea, it will be negotations, diplomacy, compromise. Not war. In the modern world, war is only declared on those counties that can't defened themselves and have no WMD's.

I'm really trying man but its fucking hard!!!! :glugglug

My braing says, "No don't do it, theyr are to stupid to understand and it will only drive you mad."

But my fingers become uncontrollable little time bombs exploding my frustration onto the keyboard. :BangBang:

Give me some credit, you should see the post before I go back and rewrite all of the insulting comments out of them. :Graucho

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It would also piss China off pretty bad and China is the LAST country the U.S. wants to pick a fight with. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes, because China is another nation that can actually fight back, we don't want to upset them.

First of all a 12 minute EDITED video proves nothing because I could take edited video of G.W. and make his sound like he loves canaries and that he would like to start an OBGYN clinic in the loving state of Iraq.

Now stop acting like you know anything about Kerry's voting record and actually get yourself educated.

http://www.factcheck.org/

Website is very bipartisin, there is also stuff you can use against Kerry if you choose. But stop talking about his voting record because it holds no water at all.

If you knew anything about politics in the first place you would know most of the time these bills are loaded with more bullshit spending that has nothing to do with the base of the bill itself it is fucking unreal. Kerry is the only guy that has had the balls to vote this bullshit down time after time and force the COngress and Senate to be more responsible.

But you are simply parroting right wing talking points. :)

That is not a bad thing if that is what you truely believe, but it is if you are going to critize others for doing the same thing.

News flash...Richy boy. Senator Kerry is not the "messiah". To know Senator Kerry is to know his voting record...and if he loses the election...it will be primarily based upon his voting record...which in my opinion is that of an ultra liberal...but for those that do not like the term "ultra liberal"...it cannot be denied that he is a staunch liberal. The general poplulation are not liberals...but are centrists...and the general population favor a strong military stance...which Senator Kerry's voting record proves that he is weak in this area.

It is pretty much immaterial what Senator Kerry currently has to say about any subject...as his voting record speaks loud and clear about his "actions" over the last 20 years (including Iraq)...not what his "words" of today are.

We are in Iraq to flush out the enemy. That is the way I see it. Even if this war gets bigger and it looks like it will all the terrorists will be coming to Iraq to kill us. We do not have to go looking for them, as they will seek us. It is a brilliant plan if you think about it. Yes it is a shame we have lost lots of troops over there. Can you come up with a better plan? If you want to put your head in the sand and believe they will just go away after that Twin Towers stunt you are kidding yourself. Now the war is getting worse. They control parts of the country and central Baghdad is still un unsafe place. We know that most of the terrorists are not from Iraq. But they are all coming there to fight. They are getting drawn in. Once again a brilliant plan. I just hope that the worse it gets the more bombing we do. I hope that we don?t use troops in house to house combat, which is always a losing battle. I say stick with Bush and let him finish the job. Grin and bear it. We are at war. Don?t expect the economy to be all rosy all the time. What do you think?

ok..i'll do what i can here, but i'm not much of politician. i don't really hate democrats, they probly have some very good ideas, i just don't feel safe with Kerry runnig the country.

I don't see children being left behind. do you honestly believe that every kid does not have the same chance...more likely, parents are to blame for these problems.

not being found does not mean they don't exist.

every politician promises this, every citizen should understand it and not base their decision on this promise.

nothing is hopeless unless you just decide that it's not worth the effort. Bush claimed victory for the liberation of iraq citizens. the terrorists are the ones fucking up the peace process.

I'm not sure i understand this, i didnt forcast anything. and what does my drug preference have to do with it?

Kerry's stance is that we should lose.

It depends on which day it is.

Seems to be a popular answer.