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directfiesta 09-16-2004 05:28 PM

remove the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker or you're fired !!!
 
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Gobbell said she was approached by a plant manager, on behalf of Geddes, and told she had to remove the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker on the rear of her Chevrolet Lumina, or she would be fired.
Nice !!! Any such events where a democrat threatens a republican ???? Please post story and link .


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September 17, 2004


WASHINGTON -- Lynne Gobbell's decision to stand up for her political beliefs turned her life around in less than a week.

Last Thursday she was fired from her job at an Alabama insulation company for refusing to remove a John Kerry sticker from her car's windshield, and left with an uncertain future.

A few days -- and a couple of local newspaper articles later -- Gobbell found herself getting a job offer from Kerry himself.

When Gobbell, 41, returned to her Moulton, Ala., home early this week after a discouraging meeting with her former employer, she picked up the phone to hear Kerry's voice.

The Democratic presidential candidate introduced himself, said Gobbell, and told her he regretted what had happened to her. "He said he was proud of me for standing up for what I believed in," she said.

Near the end of their short conversation, Gobbell said Kerry told her, "You let him know you work for John Kerry. You're hired."

Kerry was referring to Phil Geddes, the CEO of Enviromate, a Moulton company where Gobbell had been hired as a production line worker two years ago. Geddes reportedly told Gobbell she could choose to work for his company or for Kerry when she declined to remove a Kerry insignia from her car.

Chad Clanton, a Kerry campaign spokesman, said the Massachusetts senator read about the episode in an Alabama newspaper before reaching out to Gobbell.

Gobbell said she was approached by a plant manager, on behalf of Geddes, and told she had to remove the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker on the rear of her Chevrolet Lumina, or she would be fired.

"I told him that Phil couldn't tell me who to vote for," she said.

Gobbell said she then went to see Geddes at this office and confronted him about the situation. "I own this place," she said he replied, and told her to "get out."

Unsure what he meant, Gobbell asked her boss whether she was fired, to which he replied "I'm thinking about it ... get out and shut the door," Gobbell said.

Moments later, a plant manager informed her she had been fired.

Geddes was not available for comment yesterday.

When asked about firing an employee for displaying a political decal, Frederick Schauer, a Harvard professor and First Amendment expert, said "As a non-government job, the First Amendment in the strict sense does not apply."

A week before she was fired, said Gobbell, Geddes had attached a letter to employees' paychecks extolling the benefits of the Bush administration's tax policies.

As news of the incident spread this week, Gobbell said she received phone calls with offers of financial support from different parts of the world.

She said the Kerry campaign offered her the same salary she received through Enviromate, plus health benefits, something she did not have. Asked about her future duties, she said she "will be answering phones and spreading the news about John Kerry. There might be a little travel later on."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines


http://www.newsday.com/media/thumbna...9/14278287.jpg

OK, she's fat, but still ....

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 05:30 PM

newsday is a bit slow with the news... ain't they?

baddog 09-16-2004 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Nice !!! Any such events where a democrat threatens a republican ???? Please post story and link .



Democrats work for Republicans, not the other way around

scoobydookc 09-16-2004 05:33 PM

After he loses in a month will she still be employed?

Dawgy 09-16-2004 06:05 PM

i suspect that she will own that man's company very shortly.

rett11 09-16-2004 06:07 PM

if Kerry loses she will likely be out a job anyway...they do it cheaper overseas. truth and scoob, is this the best you can come up with?

directfiesta 09-16-2004 06:10 PM

Obviously, no example are available of the reverse situation....


Any other KKK member here ????

Oh, BTW, another Bush flip-flop:

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Bush Unveils Intel Plan, Falls Short of 9/11 Panel

33 minutes ago



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites), who had promised to give a new national intelligence director "full budgetary authority," submitted a plan to the U.S. Congress on Thursday that stopped short of giving the director all of the powers sought by the Sept. 11 commission, documents show.



In a rare move, Bush submitted his own legislation to key congressional committees that would ensure that the Defense Secretary continues to play a substantial role in the intelligence budget process.


Under Bush's proposal, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, the national intelligence director would "develop and determine" the annual consolidated budget for the National Foreign Intelligence Program, which constitutes more than half of the $40 billion intelligence budget.


But the White House says the intelligence director would do so based on the budget proposals of the individual intelligence agencies, and after obtaining the advice of the Defense Secretary and other members of Bush's Cabinet.



Probably will say in partisan speaches that he " feels" for the victims family and gave full power to ...

crap...

And BTW, I dislike Kerry more and more as times go by... No fucking balls!

rett11 09-16-2004 06:12 PM

today was the first day I had some hope for Kerry...he says Bush 'living in a fantasy world' on Iraq.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

jennym 09-16-2004 07:08 PM

I realize it is a link to the enquirer, but these same people were on other news stations this week. This was just the first link I found that had the story online.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...loc1aflap.html

Persius 09-16-2004 07:11 PM

go kerry! :thumbsup

gideongallery 09-16-2004 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Democrats work for Republicans, not the other way around
good one

directfiesta 09-16-2004 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
I realize it is a link to the enquirer, but these same people were on other news stations this week. This was just the first link I found that had the story online.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/200...loc1aflap.html

I personally don't think they should have asked for the sigh to come down... but on the other hand I lived in a condo ( regulated by co-owners with by-laws) and it was a dictature ( I sold my unit).

On the other hand, we see that here we are talking about ALL signs, except real estates or approved by the association ( maybe a lost cat sign ...).

In the case of this worker , I ask you:

If the sticker would have been a " Four More Years" one, would the owner/employer still asked it to be romoved ????

I seriously doubt it...

:2 cents:

the_wizz 09-16-2004 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
i suspect that she will own that man's company very shortly.
How so?? Its a private company. He didn't fire her because she was gay. Or for religious reasons.

jennym 09-16-2004 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

If the sticker would have been a " Four More Years" one, would the owner/employer still asked it to be romoved ????

I seriously doubt it...

:2 cents:

I definitely don't think this woman should have lost her job. The guy who fired her is an absolute dickhead.

My only point in giving the link I gave was to show that this shit goes both ways. It is not a Republican thing, and not a Democrat thing. It is an asshole thing.

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 07:20 PM

I going to go out on a limb and guarantee there's more to the story that's being conveniently left out.

CET 09-16-2004 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Obviously, no example are available of the reverse situation....


Any other KKK member here ????

Oh, BTW, another Bush flip-flop:



Probably will say in partisan speaches that he " feels" for the victims family and gave full power to ...

crap...

And BTW, I dislike Kerry more and more as times go by... No fucking balls!

This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, so how about giving this story its own thread?

CET 09-16-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
I going to go out on a limb and guarantee there's more to the story that's being conveniently left out.
I can't help but wonder if this woman was a pain in the ass and this was just an excuse to get rid of her.

directfiesta 09-16-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by CET
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, so how about giving this story its own thread?
Can't...

Self imposed maximum of 3 anti-bush threads per day,.... :Graucho

Goes so fast .... :1orglaugh

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 07:32 PM

doesn't really matter either way..
it's Alabama... he can fire her if her hair was a little messy.

mardigras 09-16-2004 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by CET
I can't help but wonder if this woman was a pain in the ass and this was just an excuse to get rid of her.
This is probably true.

mardigras 09-16-2004 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
doesn't really matter either way..
it's Alabama... he can fire her if her hair was a little messy.

This is definitely true.:glugglug

ronbotx 09-16-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by scoobydookc
After he loses in a month will she still be employed?
She and Kerry will both have lots of free time after November 2:)

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 08:08 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...vrs10309162250

Tala 09-16-2004 08:08 PM

First Amendment may not fly on this one, but since when can one be fired for supporting a certain candidate? :eek7

Jesus fucking christ on a goddamn cracker with cheese. :(

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
First Amendment may not fly on this one, but since when can one be fired for supporting a certain candidate? :eek7

Employment at Will.

Dawgy 09-16-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
doesn't really matter either way..
it's Alabama... he can fire her if her hair was a little messy.

thats really sad. why wouldnt freedom of speech extend to her personal property (car) regardless of where she worked?

the boss was handing out bush propaganada, forcing it on his employees... she had a bumper sticker on her car, wasnt forcing anything on anyone...

jennym 09-16-2004 08:18 PM

Why do people always bring up the 1st Amendment in cases like this? The 1st amendment states

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
HER RIGHTS WERE NOT VIOLATED!!

Yes, the guy that fired her was a total asshole. She should not be fired for something so stupid. BUT, it is his company, and he should have the right to hire, or fire any damn body he wants to. He did not take away her right to voice her opinion, he just didn't let her do it on HIS PROPERTY!

Dawgy 09-16-2004 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Why do people always bring up the 1st Amendment in cases like this? The 1st amendment states



HER RIGHTS WERE NOT VIOLATED!!

Yes, the guy that fired her was a total asshole. She should not be fired for something so stupid. BUT, it is his company, and he should have the right to hire, or fire any damn body he wants to. He did not take away her right to voice her opinion, he just didn't let her do it on HIS PROPERTY!

so if you got fired because your name was jenny, you would just shrug it off & go find another job while your family suffers?

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
so if you got fired because your name was jenny, you would just shrug it off & go find another job while your family suffers?
if she's in Alabama and a bunch of other states.. she'd have no choice but to shrug it of.

Dawgy 09-16-2004 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
if she's in Alabama and a bunch of other states.. she'd have no choice but to shrug it of.
only in america *sigh*

jennym 09-16-2004 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
so if you got fired because your name was jenny, you would just shrug it off & go find another job while your family suffers?
I don't think what this guy did was right by any means, but it has NOTHING to do with the 1st amendment. That was my point.

Personally, I think someone who OWNS their own company should be able to fire anybody for any reason they want. It is their company! They shouldn't HAVE to hire women, men, blondes, redheads, or anybody else they don't want to.

baddog 09-16-2004 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
i suspect that she will own that man's company very shortly.
why?

baddog 09-16-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
And BTW, I dislike Kerry more and more as times go by... No fucking balls!
you are finally beginning to understand . . . congrats

baddog 09-16-2004 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by CET
I can't help but wonder if this woman was a pain in the ass . . . .
if it has tits or wheels it is going to give you trouble

baddog 09-16-2004 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
doesn't really matter either way..
it's Alabama... he can fire her if her hair was a little messy.

I was going to say that I think AL is a right to work state. They have no "rights."

baddog 09-16-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
thats really sad. why wouldnt freedom of speech extend to her personal property (car) regardless of where she worked?

the boss was handing out bush propaganada, forcing it on his employees... she had a bumper sticker on her car, wasnt forcing anything on anyone...

you used to live in AZ, that is a right to work state to as I recall (or it used to be) . . . they can fire you for whatever reason they want.

Loryn 09-16-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...vrs10309162250
I was just going to post that!!! That poor little girl, just trying enjoy herself with her Daddy!!!



Happens all the time!!! More that way than the other by far!!!! :mad:

baddog 09-16-2004 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
only in america *sigh*

don't blame America, unless you are going to blame America for extending freedom to govern yourself. America allows states to make their own laws

Dawgy 09-16-2004 08:37 PM

fucking insane.

a person should only be fired if they are doing a shit job or causing problems with other employees and/or customers.

unless there is something the news isnt telling us (which there may be) all she did was have a sticker on her car.

jennym 09-16-2004 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
fucking insane.

a person should only be fired if they are doing a shit job or causing problems with other employees and/or customers.

unless there is something the news isnt telling us (which there may be) all she did was have a sticker on her car.

So, you would hire sexped if he did his job, and was nice to the customers? Why should the govt. be able to tell YOU who YOU have to hire at YOUR company?


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