If the USA was attacked.....
 

and lets play devils advocate here...

lets say for example if the USA were to be attacked, and somehow the leaders ,say washington DC proper ,was over run and taken, and the leaders declared victory to the attackers, what would you do?

would you say OK and just continue to be sheep, just for a different governement,

or would ryou run to the hills, and form a resistance with all of your fellow patriots, and defend your country to the death and last man standing wins?


I am interested to know what you would do.

This is the reason I thought Iraq was a bad Idea.. Doesn't matter how bad the leader is, no one wants their county occupied. But on a side note I wish someone would invade DC so we could start fresh with a new group of politicians.

government knows 2 things about you

pay taxes
and get drafted and go fight a war for them in a place you never even heard of.

what would be the difference under another govn't?

you would have to just go with it and not resist those who have invaded your motherland . They have overthrown your goverment and will install a new one , You should obey them and not resist . If you were to resist the only way possible ( I am guessing they are not planning on leaving if you ask real friendly) with force you will be seen as a terrorist , not worthy of living :2 cents:

i would labeled as an insurgent :1orglaugh and a terrorist and people would be saying how i should be thankful for that 'country' gor getting rid of that evil regime..does that answer your question :winkwink:

good one hehe

By the way, for example this happened to Ottoman Empire after WW1 , but the people have fought a war of independence and kicked out all the occupying forces. After the victory, since the ottoman goverment was already dead, Turkish Republic was born.

If the people are willing to fight for their freedom, noone can stand against a war of independence unless you nuke the land into oblivion, which would be genocide.

If? IF? IF? "If" we were attacked? Where have you been?

Shades of "Red Dawn," what the fuck do you think we'd do? Are you such a 'mushmellon' American that you would have to THINK about what to do?

First off, YOU'D have to learn a new language. Then, you'd have to learn how NOT to bitch about a government you once HAD. Oh, you'd have to learn to enjoy ass-kissing, too.

Does someone actually have to TELL you what to do?

Oh, Kerry supporter. Ok, I get it. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If my country was attacked by the Americans and I was at risk of dying because they did not care who they hurt, HELL YES I would fight back and resist, because I believe in how my country is run as screwed up as it may be.

Sure we may be pacifists, but at least we are peaceful! I dont understand a society that believes in war as a resolution...

It depends on what the new government is like. If it's a better govenrment, fuck it, live and let live. If it's a worse government, I've got a few guns and plenty of ammo.

LOL you are VERY wrong in your appeared sumation of the thoughts about what I what do, or what decision I would make in this instance.:2 cents:

But I do support Kerry, you are right about that

I would be in the hills with some guns. I know a lot of people who act like they are just waiting to defend the US, they have assault rifles and shit.

This is basically what the people in Iraq are doing and that is why I urge everyone to try and look at things from other peoples perspective. Yes, american soldiers are dying and I hate that but most of the people that I hear talking shit about it are the same people that would be in the hills with me.

I dont look at it as defending my government, I see it as defending my home.

I am a kerry supporter but that doesnt mean I would rather have us taken over than fight. I wouldnt want another country to take us over, I would rather them take out our government then we win our new fight for independence and can work out the problems that we have now and start over.

i wonder where all the gung ho never served in any forms of war to respond

You watched Red Dawn to many times ...:1orglaugh

this thread is to challenging on the brain late in the evening

what do you know about the draft?

oh man . . . time for me to leave for a while

Did somebody watch Red Dawn recently ?


:Graucho

Just move out of the US :321GFY

:1orglaugh
Nice attitude.

If whatever regime was in charge then couldn't let me live my life day to day they would have to either take in in or kill me.

Don't you think that this has been thought of. Our military is spread accross the world. It would not end with the taking of DC alone. Even if that included the White House, Supreme Court and Captiol Hill (Congress).

It would be a mess for sure. Even if they took all of DC, there is always some elected official somewhere else that could assume the role of President.

who could you trust? what would you use as weapons? where would you get food? what will you do for shelte? what about your kids or women if aplicapable?

what if one of them got killed in front of you for fighting the resistance?

what would you do?

I would assume the majority of Canadians and Americans are too patriotic to give up their countries.

We would probably form into companies, and wreak havok. Try to organize. Neither country would ever surrendar to an opposition force.

This is a great question, one most people don't think of very often. I hope to see some serious thoughts from Americans.

None of the "it could never happen" responses, this is hypothetical.

I agree.

I would throw a party and then John Kerry would take over and I would join him in liberating this country...

I'd stand by my declared victory. :glugglug

In all seriousness, I'd kill as many of the fuckers as I could.

It depends.

Would the new government, burn and torture innocent civilians? Kill our families if we didn't "obey" their command? If so, then yes, rebellion is a must. But if a new government came in, nothing changed and I'm still allowed to do my online thing? - Shit, I'm not giving up my high time lifestyle. :Graucho

land is land ... border lines are imaginary ... nobody really owns anything ... all you ever have ends at your fingertips ... your home is wherever you happen to be standing and there's nothing sacred about it ... government is just a facade ... there are no leaders, every individual is alone and soley responsible for what they do ...

anyone who would kill over this stuff is fighting for a fantasy.

If the new government was opressive I would use my intelligence and strength in a resistance order. If the new government was better than the current one then I would continue to live my life and apparently happier.

america getting liberated, stop dreaming, won't happen.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Hypothetically.

Repel all invaders at any cost

Yeah easy for you to say now, try having your father imprisoned for 5 years hard labor in a communist shithole for carrying another countries flag. Peace is great but turning the other cheek hurts as hell..

I disagree feverishly. And so do millions more.
You're a VERY VERY small majority of thinking. If everyone thought like you, there would be anarchy and everyone would be cool with that.

Sorry but your opinion is really sad.

A group of individuals locked this person up; not a "country".
The fantasy is that the actions of individuals is somehow more.

I'm not suggesting people don't do shitty things to eachother, or that they don't do shitty things to eachother under the mass delusion of nationality or religion. I'm simply stating that it is infact a delusion; purely a product of imagination; a casual social agreement at best.

If America woke up tomorrow and decided not to listen to George W Bush anymore, the artifical position of power vanish. We wouldn't need an election, we could just stop pretending he's important. Same for any 'leader'. The people of Iraq could have just decided to stop obeying Saddam. If he ordered innocents killed, the would-be executioners could just say "no". If everyone just says "no" then what can one man rule alone? Right now every soldier in Iraq could just decide to stop fighting and there's nothing Bush could do about it. That's why "liberating" or "conquering" people is a flawed concept. People always live under their own will. When they stop agreeing to the game, the creation crumbles. Just because some guy moves into the big white house on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that doesn't make him your 'president'; you and everybody else within some imaginary lines drawn on the globe all deciding to obey him does.

It would be a very stupid move for anyone to invade the USA. There are more guns in this country than people.

Yeah this is great theory, but if some guy comes in your house, puts a gun to your head and says 'Suck my cock' will you try to dispell him by saying 'Wow what a powerful delusion this is' or kick his ass or die trying? I'll take the latter, thank you and advise you to do the same..