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Well, first I was hanging on this cross, next thing you know I left my body and went up to heaven and then on the third day I returned!
Freaky man. true story!
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i tried but never, guess it's not for me
my pal said he had those experiences, he flyed here and there, talked with another spirits, and started seeing weird shit
then for other reasons he started seeing a shrink, the guy told him something like: "you're having these visions because you don't like your body, blah blah blah" and all that sceptic crap and the guy stopped having his astral projectionsComment
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Yes.
Every time I read one of your threads, I wish I was dead.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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Originally posted by Holly
Yes.
Every time I read one of your threads, I wish I was dead.
Ouch.
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Simple solution, bitch. Put me on ignore.Originally posted by Holly
Yes.
Every time I read one of your threads, I wish I was dead.
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I bet you think you're funny, don't you? Do you get off on mocking people for defending what they believe in?Originally posted by gornyhuy
Well, first I was hanging on this cross, next thing you know I left my body and went up to heaven and then on the third day I returned!
Freaky man. true story!
Day after day I see pissing on this board, mocking the name of God and ridiculing anyone who dares to say they believe in him. What the fuck gives you the right to right to think you can do this? You accuse Christians of intolerance but you are just as fucking intolerant of them as you claim they are of you. YOU FUCKING HYPOCTIRES!
What are you going to do if you wake up five minutes after death only to find out all this bullshit was true? At that point it will be TOO LATE for you. You will have to face eternity with no fucking excuses.Comment
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that out of body shit is dangerous, betta try lucid dreamingComment
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I have heard this before. I wonder why it would be so.Originally posted by Adultlexicon
that out of body shit is dangerous, betta try lucid dreamingComment
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try google and read about it
you can end up not being able to get back into your bodyComment
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Originally posted by boobmaster
Simple solution, bitch. Put me on ignore.
That's not very Christian-like of you.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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I've done a few "IN BODY" experiences...
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Sounds to me like thats what you're doing by creating this thread. We all know what christians believe about such things.Originally posted by boobmaster
I bet you think you're funny, don't you? Do you get off on mocking people for defending what they believe in?
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Probably not. But if you keep provoking people, most will end up telling you to shove it. If you don't like my threads, don't read them. It can't be any simpler than than.Originally posted by Holly
That's not very Christian-like of you.Comment
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Yes. Several times. Its exhilerating and scary at the same time.
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I got involved in some business with a guy a number of years ago, after I had about 10 or 15 K in the project he started telling me about his out of body experience's.
My thought what kind of wacko did I get hooked up with here.
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I am not going to bash it. I am interested in finding out if anyone has had them and what they may have been like. If true out of body experiences can be validated, it would provide strong evidence that consciousness is not completely a phenomenon of the brain.Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Sounds to me like thats what you're doing by creating this thread. We all know what christians believe about such things.
Either it's real or it's a hallucination. An easy way to test this would be to create an experiment in a place that has several adjoining rooms which cannot be seen by the test subjects.
Put various objects in those rooms, have the subjects astral project themselves through each of the rooms, and then interview the subjects about the contents. If the test subjects can identify the objects placed in each of the rooms, I'd say that would provide strong evidence.Comment
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dumbest. post. ever.Originally posted by Adultlexicon
try google and read about it
you can end up not being able to get back into your body
I refuse to accept that people like this are the same species as I.Comment
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Another thing -- a lot of times these experiences are involuntary. And in a majority of cases, no drugs are involved. Drug induced cases are of little interest to me given the obvious.Comment
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Originally posted by CamChicks
dumbest. post. ever.
I refuse to accept that people like this are the same species as I. 
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Here we go again. Why do you find it necessary to make yourself feel superior to those who may have more of an open mind about such things?Originally posted by CamChicks
dumbest. post. ever.
I refuse to accept that people like this are the same species as I.
A lot of clinical studies of OBE have been done by reputable scientists over the years, and there is a growing literature on it.
Failure to return to the body is a common fear shared by many people who are into this stuff. I say it's worth investigating.Comment
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Have you ever investigated the phenomena? How the fuck do you know it's all BS? Would an experiment like the one I proposed earlier convince you if it produced the right kind of results?Originally posted by jimmyf
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It's neither. It's imagination.Originally posted by boobmaster
Either it's real or it's a hallucination. An easy way to test this would be to create an experiment in a place that has several adjoining rooms which cannot be seen by the test subjects.
I can imagine myself in Hawaii right now. I can conjure up details.. feeling the warm air... smelling the salt water... but I am not in Hawaii.
It's been done, and every bullshit artist proved a fraud.Originally posted by boobmaster
Put various objects in those rooms, have the subjects astral project themselves through each of the rooms, and then interview the subjects about the contents. If the test subjects can identify the objects placed in each of the rooms, I'd say that would provide strong evidence.Comment
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Originally posted by boobmaster
I am not going to bash it. I am interested in finding out if anyone has had them and what they may have been like. If true out of body experiences can be validated, it would provide strong evidence that consciousness is not completely a phenomenon of the brain.
Either it's real or it's a hallucination. An easy way to test this would be to create an experiment in a place that has several adjoining rooms which cannot be seen by the test subjects.
Put various objects in those rooms, have the subjects astral project themselves through each of the rooms, and then interview the subjects about the contents. If the test subjects can identify the objects placed in each of the rooms, I'd say that would provide strong evidence.
Okay, I can't believe I'm going to discuss this with you but everyone has out of body experiences quite a bit and it usually happens when they are asleep. A few people are able to obtain a deep level of consiousness to do it at will.Comment
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I actually did. When I was 18 I got into a group fight against some local rival H.S. kids. There were about 10 of us and 10 of them. After all was said and done, they were running and I was bleeding. I got stabbed 3 times; once right below my right art through my rib cage, once in my stomach, and once in my thigh. They landed a medi-vac helicopter and had to clear out the movie theater so they could land the chopper.
While in the air, I heard the flight tech say, "We're losing him!". By that time I was in severe shock and had already lost a lot of blood (some still stains the walk area at the outdoor mall as a macabre reminder). Once I heard him say that I honestly remember seeing my life flash before me like some grotesque slideshow. I remember seeing my family, friends, and distant memories. I don't recall seeing a light or a tunnell but I did see myself from outside my body.
I was kneeling down next to my body and I could actually see myself unconcious. To be 100% honest, it was one of the most peaceful things I have ever encountered. I was at total peace with myself.
I finally arrived at the hospital with a punctured lung, ruptured instestines, and a severed ligament in my thigh. They slapped 89 internal stitches and 36 staples into me and I finally recovered. A grim reminder of my childhood.
So yes, I have experienced one and it was the most peacful thing ever. That is one of the reasons I don't fear death. Peace and tranquility without a hint of fear or pain.
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It's one thing to be a skeptic. It's another thing entirely to blow it all off just because it doesn't fit in with your current worldview. If science refused to question things that seemed illogical, some of the greatest discoveries in our history would never have been made.Originally posted by CamChicks
It's neither. It's imagination.
I can imagine myself in Hawaii right now. I can conjure up details.. feeling the warm air... smelling the salt water... but I am not in Hawaii.
It's been done, and every bullshit artist proved a fraud.
An experiment like the one I cited above would be able to shed some light on the phenomena.
RE: your statement about fraud. I assume you have sources to back up you claims. If not, you are just babbling shit out of your pie-hole, which would make you a babbling idiot.Comment
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Just to put that into perspective. I was 18 when that happened, I'm 30 now. My blood has stained that walkway for years.Originally posted by HighOnAcid
...By that time I was in severe shock and had already lost a lot of blood (some still stains the walk area at the outdoor mall as a macabre reminder).Comment
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Are you claiming it is strictly a phenomenon of the brain? There are a lot of things that would need to be explained if that is truly the case.Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Okay, I can't believe I'm going to discuss this with you but everyone has out of body experiences quite a bit and it usually happens when they are asleep. A few people are able to obtain a deep level of consiousness to do it at will.
I have heard some very interesting tales of shared travel in which the subjects give independent and extremely similar accounts. Those need to be explained.Comment
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Ignoring the lunatics who think that they can seperate from their body and travel ghostlike around the world ... that other "out of body experience" that most of us are familiar with is a psychological phenomenon with a much simpler, less magical, explaination.
There is a part of the brain known as the angular gyrus which controls the way the brain analyzes sensory information to give us a perception of our own bodies and where we are in relation to other objects in the environment. If that part of the brain momentarily misfires and sends faulty information, the result can be a feeling of floating outside of yourself. Sort of like losing a few packets of data while transfering them over a network, the image becomes corrupted.Comment
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People who have near death experiences often report that they were outside their bodies during the episode. They almost universally report feelings of peace, just like you.Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I actually did. When I was 18 I got into a group fight against some local rival H.S. kids. There were about 10 of us and 10 of them. After all was said and done, they were running and I was bleeding. I got stabbed 3 times; once right below my right art through my rib cage, once in my stomach, and once in my thigh. They landed a medi-vac helicopter and had to clear out the movie theater so they could land the chopper.
While in the air, I heard the flight tech say, "We're losing him!". By that time I was in severe shock and had already lost a lot of blood (some still stains the walk area at the outdoor mall as a macabre reminder). Once I heard him say that I honestly remember seeing my life flash before me like some grotesque slideshow. I remember seeing my family, friends, and distant memories. I don't recall seeing a light or a tunnell but I did see myself from outside my body.
I was kneeling down next to my body and I could actually see myself unconcious. To be 100% honest, it was one of the most peaceful things I have ever encountered. I was at total peace with myself.
I finally arrived at the hospital with a punctured lung, ruptured instestines, and a severed ligament in my thigh. They slapped 89 internal stitches and 36 staples into me and I finally recovered. A grim reminder of my childhood.
So yes, I have experienced one and it was the most peacful thing ever. That is one of the reasons I don't fear death. Peace and tranquility without a hint of fear or pain.Comment
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when i had endoscopy i remember myself sitting right next to the table even remember seeing the monitor, then i was at the far end of the room up in the corner looking at all the nurses and doctor .... then i woke up
i recently had colonoscopy and it was weird after i fell asleep, i remember voices talking but that's it can't recall much else, i did dream of something thoughLast edited by jigg; 09-08-2004, 06:43 PM.......
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It's basic Physics 101 - Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. We are all made up of matter and when our "life force" leaves us it has to dissipate somewhere. When someone has an out-of-body experience it's their energy (soul) leaving the human shell.Originally posted by boobmaster
Are you claiming it is strictly a phenomenon of the brain? There are a lot of things that would need to be explained if that is truly the case.
We don't die, we just become batteries for some dickhead's cell phone!
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Hey boobmaster fuck face,
This is another bullshit fucked up waste of space. Pack your shit up and get the fuck off this board! Thanks.Comment
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This guy has been offering a million dollars for evidenceOriginally posted by boobmaster
RE: your statement about fraud. I assume you have sources to back up you claims. If not, you are just babbling shit out of your pie-hole, which would make you a babbling idiot.
http://www.randi.org/research/
everyone fails even the simplest testsComment
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I am familiar with that study. It is interesting but it was based on the experience of a single individual with epilepsy. Epileptics often have OBEs during siezures.Originally posted by CamChicks
Ignoring the lunatics who think that they can seperate from their body and travel ghostlike around the world ... that other "out of body experience" that most of us are familiar with is a psychological phenomenon with a much simpler, less magical, explaination.
There is a part of the brain known as the angular gyrus which controls the way the brain analyzes sensory information to give us a perception of our own bodies and where we are in relation to other objects in the environment. If that part of the brain momentarily misfires and sends faulty information, the result can be a feeling of floating outside of yourself. Sort of like losing a few packets of data while transfering them over a network, the image becomes corrupted.
(1) One study of one individual is not very convincing. If further studies can replicate, I'd be more impressed.
(2) It doesn't/can't explain reports of persons seeing things during OBEs which they could not possibly have seen if they had still been inside their bodies.Comment
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Originally posted by boobmaster
I am not going to bash it. I am interested in finding out if anyone has had them and what they may have been like. If true out of body experiences can be validated, it would provide strong evidence that consciousness is not completely a phenomenon of the brain.
Either it's real or it's a hallucination. An easy way to test this would be to create an experiment in a place that has several adjoining rooms which cannot be seen by the test subjects.
Put various objects in those rooms, have the subjects astral project themselves through each of the rooms, and then interview the subjects about the contents. If the test subjects can identify the objects placed in each of the rooms, I'd say that would provide strong evidence.
it's been done. they put stuff on top of cabinets in the OR oe ER and some patients have actually been able to say what they saw or in the case of scrolling signs tell what's been written......
eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two
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I should add that trauma, loss of blood, epilepsy, or any number of things may trigger this phenomenon. As with the 'tunnel' and 'white light', this is just another example of a physical organ (your brain) failing under stress.Originally posted by CamChicks
There is a part of the brain known as the angular gyrus which controls the way the brain analyzes sensory information to give us a perception of our own bodies and where we are in relation to other objects in the environment. If that part of the brain momentarily misfires and sends faulty information, the result can be a feeling of floating outside of yourself. Sort of like losing a few packets of data while transfering them over a network, the image becomes corrupted.Comment
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Originally posted by CamChicks
This guy has been offering a million dollars for evidence
http://www.randi.org/research/
everyone fails even the simplest tests
(1) This guy has spent his life trying to debunk supernatural phenomena. He's hardly objective.
(2) He wants to determine a different set of rules for each contestant.
(3) He does not permit an objective determination of the results. In other words, he wants to be the final, subjective authority himself.
So, what we have here is a diehard skeptic who will pay you a million dollars if and only if you can convince him and him alone (a virtual impossibility). BULLSHIT. Science doesn't work that way.Comment
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I have heard those accounts but as far as I know a controlled study has never been done. That's what I would like to see.Originally posted by jigg
it's been done. they put stuff on top of cabinets in the OR oe ER and some patients have actually been able to say what they saw or in the case of scrolling signs tell what's been writtenComment
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Again - one study -- one test subject -- no replication. Moreover, it can't explain the fact that people see things outside of their bodies that THEY COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN FROM THE LOCATION OF THEIR BODIES.Originally posted by CamChicks
I should add that trauma, loss of blood, epilepsy, or any number of things may trigger this phenomenon. As with the 'tunnel' and 'white light', this is just another example of a physical organ (your brain) failing under stress.Comment
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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
It's basic Physics 101 - Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. We are all made up of matter and when our "life force" leaves us it has to dissipate somewhere. When someone has an out-of-body experience it's their energy (soul) leaving the human shell.
We don't die, we just become batteries for some dickhead's cell phone!
An interesting way of looking at it.Comment
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I guess noone wants $1,000,000 then?Originally posted by boobmaster
(2) It doesn't/can't explain reports of persons seeing things during OBEs which they could not possibly have seen if they had still been inside their bodies.
http://www.randi.org/research/
Bullshit artists stage their own bullshit experiments to prove their own bullshit powers to sell their own bullshit books. No mystery there.Comment
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Originally posted by Holly
Yes.
Every time I read one of your threads, I wish I was dead.
I'm really wondering about this guy sometimes ... :POriginally posted by rayadp05Comment
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So what's your problem with me tonight?Originally posted by Doctor Dre
I'm really wondering about this guy sometimes ... :PComment
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Unless it was staged, dumbass.Originally posted by boobmaster
Moreover, it can't explain the fact that people see things outside of their bodies that THEY COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN FROM THE LOCATION OF THEIR BODIES.
I bet you believe in TV Psychics and Faith Healers too.
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Since you obviously can't read my replies, I will post my repoonse AGAINOriginally posted by CamChicks
I guess noone wants $1,000,000 then?
http://www.randi.org/research/
Bullshit artists stage their own bullshit experiments to prove their own bullshit powers to sell their own bullshit books. No mystery there.
(1) This guy has spent his life trying to debunk supernatural phenomena. He's hardly objective.
(2) He wants to determine a different set of rules for each contestant.
(3) He does not permit an objective determination of the results. In other words, he wants to be the final, subjective authority himself.
So, what we have here is a diehard skeptic who will pay you a million dollars if and only if you can convince him and him alone (a virtual impossibility). BULLSHIT. Science doesn't work that way.Comment
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Why the hostility? I am willing to keep an open mind. The possibility of staging is one reason why a controlled experiment would be preferable. But the reports still need to be explained.Originally posted by CamChicks
Unless it was staged, dumbass.
I bet you believe in TV Psychics and Faith Healers too.
You don't believe because you don't WANT TO BELIEVE. A degree of skepticism is healthy. Fanatical skepticism, on the other hand, is just plain stupid.Comment
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