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railz 08-27-2004 12:40 PM

Free Speech Coalition Takes on 2257 Amendments
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040827/laf035_1.html

Jeppe 08-27-2004 12:57 PM

:thumbsup

ProjectPat 08-27-2004 12:58 PM

protect free speach

that's my advice of the day

:)

Methodcash Rick 08-27-2004 01:02 PM

:banana :banana :banana :banana :banana

Good news indeed....

TheSenator 08-27-2004 01:07 PM

fuck Assssholehahahahaha

Basic_man 08-27-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ProjectPat
protect free speach

that's my advice of the day

:)

It's speech, not speach :D

pornguy 08-27-2004 01:09 PM

Now the question is, how far will they get? I hope that they can really make an effect.

Khun 08-27-2004 01:11 PM

SAid it before in the other thread so I will say it again here. Damn good news!

SKULL 08-27-2004 01:16 PM

:banana

Slick 08-27-2004 01:26 PM

Oh yeah, bring in the reinforcements !!!

European Lee 08-27-2004 01:29 PM

I personally dont see how this is a free speech issue..

These proposed changes arent telling us we cant do something but rather making sure we do it legitamately.

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 08-27-2004 01:31 PM

Oh yeah and when did i tell them they could speak for me?

Quote:

As the trade association of the adult entertainment industry, representing all the diverse creators and distributors of adult products and services, Free Speech Coalition continues to serve as the voice of this industry in fighting against regulations that unfairly target our industry.
Fucking assclowns.

Regards,

Lee

stocktrader23 08-27-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Oh yeah and when did i tell them they could speak for me?



Fucking assclowns.

Regards,

Lee

You were busy sucking dick the day everyone appointed them to speak for the industry.

Retards,

stock

gornyhuy 08-27-2004 01:41 PM

Thank GOD there is an organized resistance to it... :glugglug

xenigo 08-27-2004 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
I personally dont see how this is a free speech issue..

These proposed changes arent telling us we cant do something but rather making sure we do it legitamately.

Regards,

Lee

Wait wait, wait... hold up man. You don't think they're making efforts to try to stop us? How much more clear does it get, dude? When laws are being put in place to arrest us based on not having records as secondary producers, how is that NOT trying to fuck up our shit? Since when does anyone besides the primary producers need to have the actual model ID's and 2257 forms? Oh, and paper copies too... think about that.

"Legitimately"? Why don't you go suck G W's dick while you're at it, you're sounding just like him.

SteveLightspeed 08-27-2004 02:01 PM

Where do I send my donation?
I'll get behind this one right now.

The adult industry needs to stand together and fight for the right reasons, and this is one of them.

Steve Lightspeed

Doc911 08-27-2004 02:03 PM

Go Free Speech!

See Sig. I like the new flash I just put on it.

xxxjay 08-27-2004 02:15 PM

Hopefully there will be an injuction now.

the Shemp 08-27-2004 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Where do I send my donation?
I'll get behind this one right now.

The adult industry needs to stand together and fight for the right reasons, and this is one of them.

Steve Lightspeed

right on :thumbsup

Mike AI 08-27-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Where do I send my donation?
I'll get behind this one right now.

The adult industry needs to stand together and fight for the right reasons, and this is one of them.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve - Stan and I just finished talking and we agree with this.

We would like to send money as well.

I wish the ACLU would come out on this too.

Doctor Dre 08-27-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ProjectPat
protect free speach

that's my advice of the day

:)

But we all know that asshole will win at the end of the day

emmanuelle 08-27-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Oh yeah and when did i tell them they could speak for me?



Fucking assclowns.

Regards,

Lee


Yet it's ok for the US gov to:

Tell ME- A Canadian how to run my business, simply because I'm forced to support my US affiliates and deal with a US billing company?

Put the privacy & safety of my models at risk?

Threaten to ruin smaller companies by burying them in paperwork and prosecuting them for clerical errors?

Use thrice-annual inspections as an excuse to harass any / all in this industry who might be considered even a secondary producer?


VIVA la FSC!!!!!!!!

Honeyslut 08-27-2004 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
I personally dont see how this is a free speech issue..

These proposed changes arent telling us we cant do something but rather making sure we do it legitamately.

Regards,

Lee

I think it is more the way the proposed changes were done. They were not taken to legislation and voted on. It should never have been an executive order.

Honeyslut 08-27-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Yet it's ok for the US gov to:

Tell ME- A Canadian how to run my business, simply because I'm forced to support my US affiliates and deal with a US billing company?

Put the privacy & safety of my models at risk?

Threaten to ruin smaller companies by burying them in paperwork and prosecuting them for clerical errors?

Use thrice-annual inspections as an excuse to harass any / all in this industry who might be considered even a secondary producer?


VIVA la FSC!!!!!!!!

Well said as ALWAYS, Emma.


I might add that as a person who works out of her home, I feel I have the right to use a po box so nobody harasses my family because my beliefs and theirs are different.


Oh, I don't wanna hear the get an office excuse. :)

CET 08-27-2004 02:48 PM

Yes!

Ever notice how regulations don't stop large and wealthy companies, but it destroies small and new start up companies? It's the same way that new tax laws end up taking more money out of the middle class rather then the upper class that was supposedly the original target.

Here's the plan: destroy the FCC, IRS, FBI, Department of Homeland Surveilance, er . . . I mean Security. Who's with me?

clickhappy 08-27-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Where do I send my donation?

theres a contribute button here
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contact.htm#

tony286 08-27-2004 02:57 PM

a good read and refreshing to see.

Doc911 08-27-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clickhappy
theres a contribute button here
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contact.htm#

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/Join.htm

You can also call the number .here to make a donation by phone.


I'll fix the contribute button in just a second

Doc911 08-27-2004 03:29 PM

okay the contribute button is now fixed.

Thanks to all that support free speech

Mutt 08-27-2004 03:36 PM

My shooter MarcoP was onto this 2257 stuff a long time ago and made calls to the FSC - never got called back but glad to see they've stepped up as they are the right group to lead this fight.

i'll be contributing.

Series 08-27-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
I personally dont see how this is a free speech issue..
On a constitutional note, Lee says, "the volume and complexity of those records will very likely chill the willingness of many to republish material, thus limiting the reach of constitutionally protected expression."

Mutt 08-27-2004 03:38 PM

uh.....not so fast. i just read the press release, all they've done so far is submit their comments like hundreds of others have including me and lots of others on GFY. thought they were going to step up and take on the govenrment in court.

railz 08-27-2004 04:27 PM

Not gonna let important shit like this get dropped to page 2 under piles of BS threads.

Kimmykim 08-27-2004 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
uh.....not so fast. i just read the press release, all they've done so far is submit their comments like hundreds of others have including me and lots of others on GFY. thought they were going to step up and take on the govenrment in court. go
Good catch mutt.

Until something is either signed into effect or someone gets nabbed, I don't really think there's much more that can be done, since the comments period ended the day before the hearing.

And speaking of the hearing, has anyone here seen a copy of the transcripts yet? I don't think they've been released, not sure what is causing the delay.

Manowar 08-27-2004 04:33 PM

great news

Xenophage 08-27-2004 04:34 PM

bump for free speach

I guess I should make another donation

railz 08-27-2004 04:46 PM

I just searched every transcript archive I could find. Nothing yet.

railz 08-27-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Andrew Oosterbaan, Chief, Child
Exploitation and Obscenity Section, Criminal Division, United States
Department of Justice, Washington, DC 20530; (202) 514-5780. This is
not a toll-free number.
Well, here's a number. Anyone wanna call on Monday and find out?

RawAlex 08-27-2004 05:38 PM

European Lee: the potential infringement on free speech is clear: If the amoutn of paperwork and amount of effort required to exercise free speech is burdonsome, then free speech is restricted to only those who can afford the time and money to keep these records, which can easily be shown as a clear duplication that does not further the needs of the public.

Requiring an office to be open 7 days a week also means that individual secondary producers may not be able to comply with the act not matter WHAT they do - unless they never take a day off for the rest of their lives. That is an unfair burder for them to bear in order to exercise their right of free speech.

At the end of it all, the right to free speech in the US is the only thing that keeps porn available, otherwise Assclown and his bandits would have rounded up all the american webmasters and shot them at dawn.

Alex

titmowse 08-27-2004 08:49 PM

bump for the night shift


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