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Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 10:47 AM

Anyone watching the major dramma on CNN?
 
Cleland is delivering some mail.

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 10:49 AM

No hands. No legs. Damn.

dropped9 08-25-2004 10:50 AM

what?

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 10:50 AM

Ooooo. Major drama.

Doctor Dre 08-25-2004 10:53 AM

Any1 got a link ?

Bryan Havoc 08-25-2004 10:53 AM

I'm not sure that is major drama... but I'm watching it anyway.

MickeyG 08-25-2004 10:53 AM

huh? :helpme

RedShoe 08-25-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Cleland is delivering some mail.
Who is Cleland?
I don't have cable fill me in.

Oh and since I don't know what's going on... check my sig for more info.

angeleyes 08-25-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MickeyG
huh? :helpme

Doctor Dre 08-25-2004 10:55 AM

There's nothing on cnn.com


yet

loverboy 08-25-2004 10:58 AM

sounds interesting, can you fill us in?

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 11:11 AM

Ok. Today the Kerry camp decided to press the Swift ad issue to the Bush camp by sending former U.S. Senator Max Cleland to Crawford, TX in order to deliver a letter signed by 9 Veteran U.S. Senators demanding that Bush personally comdemn the Swift Boat ads. Bush refused to meet with Cleland who was wheeling around the Bush ranch in his chair. Cleland was severely injured in Vietnam losing both legs and an arm. Cleland called Bush out saying the President was directly behind the ads. This has been further developing since the resignation of Bush's legal advisor this morning. Oooooo awesome drama.

Mr. Mojo Risin 08-25-2004 11:17 AM

major drama indeed

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 11:32 AM

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/ALLPOLIT....sunday.ap.jpg


Drama

pimpin 08-25-2004 11:47 AM

Too bad they don't have anyone pathetic looking to send down their and get more sympathy. . .

samsam 08-25-2004 12:27 PM

Yeah i just saw that on CNN....... Cleland is cool.

He may have no arms and no use of his legs but hes got more style and ethics than 99% of the senators.

BlueQuartz 08-25-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpin
Too bad they don't have anyone pathetic looking to send down their and get more sympathy. . .
LOL

ShellyCrash 08-25-2004 12:43 PM

Swift Boat Vets is such BS- I mean, no matter which side of the fence you're sitting on- the fact is none of these guys were on Kerry's boat, they don't know went down. Everyone who served "with" Kerry, and defining with as in the same unit, praises him.

When Kerry came back he fought to oppose the war, and this pissed some people off. They have a right to state they feel betrayed, but those ads are misleading. None of those men have ANY first hand knowledge of Kerry's service. What a crock.

I admire McCain for also comming out against the ads. When Bush was running in the primaries against McCain he tried to do the same shit to him, a former POW. Nice. :ugone2far

Mike AI 08-25-2004 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Ok. Today the Kerry camp decided to press the Swift ad issue to the Bush camp by sending former U.S. Senator Max Cleland to Crawford, TX in order to deliver a letter signed by 9 Veteran U.S. Senators demanding that Bush personally comdemn the Swift Boat ads. Bush refused to meet with Cleland who was wheeling around the Bush ranch in his chair. Cleland was severely injured in Vietnam losing both legs and an arm. Cleland called Bush out saying the President was directly behind the ads. This has been further developing since the resignation of Bush's legal advisor this morning. Oooooo awesome drama.
Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.

The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.

Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!

SykkBoy 08-25-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShellyCrash
Swift Boat Vets is such BS- I mean, no matter which side of the fence you're sitting on- the fact is none of these guys were on Kerry's boat, they don't know went down. Everyone who served "with" Kerry, and defining with as in the same unit, praises him.

When Kerry came back he fought to oppose the war, and this pissed some people off. They have a right to state they feel betrayed, but those ads are misleading. None of those men have ANY first hand knowledge of Kerry's service. What a crock.

I admire McCain for also comming out against the ads. When Bush was running in the primaries against McCain he tried to do the same shit to him, a former POW. Nice. :ugone2far

I wonder if the Bush camp will now come out and claim that Cleland didn't deserve his purple heart...

Floridiot 08-25-2004 12:45 PM

yea drama

zzgundamnzz 08-25-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/ALLPOLIT....sunday.ap.jpg


Drama

Damn that would make for a great Kerry owned pic but Im not into dishonoring veterans who lost so much in battle.

pimpin 08-25-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.

The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.

Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!


That's called OE - Operator Error.
We used to use that when I worked with an ISP and the dipshits would call in about spyware, spam, etc.

NichePay_Manny 08-25-2004 12:48 PM

It is sad that it has to come to that.you are right drama drama!

Mike AI 08-25-2004 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I wonder if the Bush camp will now come out and claim that Cleland didn't deserve his purple heart...
See my post above. :)

If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.

ShellyCrash 08-25-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
See my post above. :)

If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.

Moveon is almost like the green party- before Kerry even threw his hat in the ring they were running those rediculous "What Would Jesus Drive" commercials. I respect Moveon as an anti war outfit, but their other politics are sometimes on another plane.

We can't forget that 2 members of the bush campaign have had to resign because of their involvement with swift boat, it's beyond special interest.

Mike AI 08-25-2004 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShellyCrash
Moveon is almost like the green party- before Kerry even threw his hat in the ring they were running those rediculous "What Would Jesus Drive" commercials. I respect Moveon as an anti war outfit, but their other politics are sometimes on another plane.

We can't forget that 2 members of the bush campaign have had to resign because of their involvement with swift boat, it's beyond special interest.

MoveOn is being funded by billionaire Soros who has a personal act to grind against Bush. I am not even sure if Soros is a US Citizen, yet he is pouring millions of his own money into trying to determine the ourcome of the US Presidential race.

moveon is ANTI BUSH, PERIOD. They had time to attack Bush because he was sitting President.

If Kerry was sitting President I am sure similair groups from the right would have been doing same thing to him.


It goes both ways. Both sides have their pitbulls....

For Kerry to whine and cry about it is silly. Bush has not said one word and has been savaged since he won election.

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

In many ways its like GFY. The people who want to talk smack are too chicken to risk their asses, or their business so they get other people ( or anon accounts) to attack their competition.

Joesho 08-25-2004 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
See my post above. :)

If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.

Problem is, there is one distinct difference, Kerry and moveon are using facts, not lies :)

hard to condem the truth even if it is slanderous.:2 cents:

the swift boats were another deliberate attempt from the bush camp to purposely mislead the american people..... it started before he was elected, and has snowballed every since

Mike AI 08-25-2004 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
Problem is, there is one distinct difference, Kerry and moveon are using facts, not lies :)

hard to condem the truth even if it is slanderous.:2 cents:

the swift boats were another deliberate attempt from the bush camp to purposely mislead the american people..... it started before he was elected, and has snowballed every since

Joe take another puff.

Compairing Bush to Hitler is not a fact, its an ad hominum attack.

It could be said moveon.org i a secret orginization who hides the names of hte people behind it.

The swift vets are putting their names and reputations on the line. 240+ people who dealt with Kerry while in Vietnam.... not all of them can be Bushies can they??

It goes both ways Joe. If you codemn swfit boats, condemn moveon..

Brinner 08-25-2004 01:38 PM

I'll be glad when election day is over!

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 01:40 PM

Mike AI. Kerry did condemn the MoveOn Hitler ad immediately after McCain had made the request of him. On the other hand, Bush hasn't.

The Democrats decided to fight back and the Republicans don't like being caught redhanded.

exposed 08-25-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.

The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.

Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!


:1orglaugh oopppsss

:thumbsup

Mike AI 08-25-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Mike AI. Kerry did condemn the MoveOn Hitler ad immediately after McCain had made the request of him. On the other hand, Bush hasn't.

The Democrats decided to fight back and the Republicans don't like being caught redhanded.

Hmmm I must have missed that.

What about the other ads moveon has been running? Did he codemn moveon totally or was it just Hilter ad?

I could be out of the loop.... I do try to keep up, but 24 hour newscycle is tough!

Serge Litehead 08-25-2004 01:47 PM

that ad is fucking bush badly, doubt he made it
the purpouse of that ad was to make a heat as its now.
and no i dont support bush nor kerry

sixxxthsense 08-25-2004 01:51 PM

ur even lamer if ur watchign CNN then being addicted to PC GAMES 24/7!

SweetT 08-25-2004 01:53 PM

I dont usually get involved in Politics on the message boards....but can I make just one small observation.....

I find it amusing that the Kerry supporters *from our industry* are asking someone to stifle free speech. Hmmmm.


As an aside, just note that Bush cannot win in this debacle.....If he doesnt ask this group to pull their ad then Kerry/Edwards are going to continue this posturing. If he does ask them to pull the ad and they oblige then Kerry/Edwards are going to come out and say "See, I told you the Bush camp was behind these ads all along. They approved their start and they approved their end"

It is a no win for the Bush Camp.


Just observations from the peanut galley :)


--T

titmowse 08-25-2004 01:57 PM

http://blogslut.com/trashy/fakemedals.gif

link

eddieguy 08-25-2004 02:05 PM

That would be Drama on the righthand side.

http://www.post-gazette.com/images2/...ourage_450.jpg

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 02:07 PM

Ginsberg is backpedaling for Bush on Wolf Blitzer right now. I love how the Republicans declare victory as this new Watergate unfolds. They broke the law and they got caught. Funny.

Giorgio_Xo 08-25-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SweetT
I dont usually get involved in Politics on the message boards....but can I make just one small observation.....

I find it amusing that the Kerry supporters *from our industry* are asking someone to stifle free speech. Hmmmm.


As an aside, just note that Bush cannot win in this debacle.....If he doesnt ask this group to pull their ad then Kerry/Edwards are going to continue this posturing. If he does ask them to pull the ad and they oblige then Kerry/Edwards are going to come out and say "See, I told you the Bush camp was behind these ads all along. They approved their start and they approved their end"

It is a no win for the Bush Camp.


Just observations from the peanut galley :)


--T

There is no protection for irresponsible speech under the Constitution..


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