Mad Thumbs New Policy
 

I just got this e-mail from the honcho over at Mad Thumbs-

Due to the new 2257 regulations, as of Tuesday, August 24th I
request that *ALL* thumbnails be *SOFTCORE*. This means that they can not
show any insertion or sexual touching. This means no dildos, fingering,
spreading the pussy, fucking, dicks in a girls mouth, etc. Just nudity etc
is ok. I prefer clean face shots as well.
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> Please do not push the envelope because if I feel that you are even
getting close to the line I *will* remove your partner account and delete
all of your old galleries. 2257 is a very serious situation and I must put
forth these rules to proect myself, and as a submitter who recieves free
traffic, you are required to follow them. Also, I am not inititally
requiring a 2257 link on your galleries, however it would be a very good
idea to begin including that. It wil be for your protection as well as my
own.

The guy is freaking out a little or what ? The resolution haven't even been adopted

YOUR sales will probably go up, but I wonder if they will lose surfers in a few months who know they can get hardcore elsewhere?

It will be a very interesting to watch.

I'm all cool and dandy with that decision if he only means the thumbs we give for him to use on his site.

It doesn't really specify, but one COULD interpret that message so that all thumbnails, including the ones in the gallery should be softcore. :1orglaugh
I hope that's not the case.

i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.

That would make a lot more sense :)

I dont think doing this will make any difference legally but its his site and his rules.

this proposed 2257 shit has everyone freaking out for nothing imho

I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

going softcore is a good thing
wish all free shit switched to softcore

no, he means anything that will be on HIS server. Therefore, only the single thumb. Anything on your galleries doesn't matter becasue he is not hosting it, so 2257 will not affect him once YOUR content is being shown. Once your gallery comes up, you will then be responsible for 2257.

i could be wrong... its happened before once or twice. im just making an assumption. i doubt he means all the thumbs on your gallery though.

I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

exactly, if they dont like it no one is forcing them to submit.

GOT EM

No need. Anybody with a brain that submits to madthumbs would know that it means the thumbs that are submitted.

:helpme

I think softcore thumbs is a good move :thumbsup

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Great idea Mike...

Mike knows what he's doing. I support this. I'd be doing the same if I lived in the US. Right now I will wait a little longer first to see how it all turns out.

Wise decision Mike

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Yes, everyone submitting to madthumbs should see a huge increase in productivity with the introduction of the softcore thumbs. People should be happy, it's going to be making their partner accounts that much more valuable (not to mention paid spots).

Better safe then sorry

I have lots of softcore :):thumbsup

Why, you're right, you do!! :Graucho

BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ...

#1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content.
#2 - It's huge and is well known
#3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for.

So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself.

I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ...

I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for.

I hope you fuckers understand ;-)

I only have softcore so I am happy with this

Mike,

I am behind you 100% on this one. This crack down is going to hit all of us. In the way we promote and the way we sell our products.

Mike:
If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...), will you be increasing the # of outbound links, or should we remove your sites from our submits?

Honestly man, if more tgps followed suit, I think everyone would notice an increase in productivity. There have been tgp detractors for ages that have been saying tgps offer too much access to free porn... Even though it seems like a small limitation, I can almost guarantee this will have that kind of vacuum effect.

I'm very impressed with the change in policy. I think you will see more TGP's follow suit eventually.

Brad

You can give me your username and I'll go ahead and delete your account since your an asshole ;-) ...

Although there was no clear answer in Miami ... I talked to a few lawyers and several knowledable people ...

If a gallery is non-compliant and doesn't have the 2257 link that shows the Custodian of Records, and I am linking to it, I could potentially be prosecuted for 'aiding and abiding' .. so to put it in laymens terms, I would be gulity by association.

The lawyers said that based on the law, the DOJ very well could come after me for that ... but that's the thign they have the least chance of getting me for since it is simply linking.

And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/

Do whatever you feel you have to in order to protect the investment you've made. :2 cents:

Lol! This policy would be in affect for all sites on your network, correct?

please visit http://www.hop.com/

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freaking out? not exactly. smart move on his part, look for it to happen more and more

not what it means to me or anyone else that has half a clue about the new 2257 regs