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Centurion 08-07-2004 12:31 PM

Here some sobering stats
 
From CNN's website:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...es/casualties/

Has a list of all Americans killed in the Iraqi war along with their specs and pictures. I just look at all those young lives snuffed out before they had a chance to even begin to realize their life's goal and feel greatly saddened.

There is even a chart that breaks it down according to age, gender, ethnicity, etc. The 22-25 year old category have suffered the most losses folled by the under 21 group.

:(

xclusive 08-07-2004 12:32 PM

Thanks for bringing down my saturday...:321GFY fuck you bush send your daughters over there...

Shoehorn! 08-07-2004 12:33 PM

That's fuckind depressing.

Fabuleux 08-07-2004 12:36 PM

That list is just too fucking big.

Gheenz 08-07-2004 12:38 PM

That's so sad. All these people my age killed for nothing :(

The Heron 08-07-2004 12:38 PM

Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.

Centurion 08-07-2004 12:40 PM

I think when we just hear "another soldier was killed today in Iraq" on the news or read that in the newspaper, we might wince a bit, and then get on with our life.

But when you see some specifics about each soldier along with their face, man..it really brings the war home and makes you realize the ultimate sacrifice these people made.


What I wonder is how many more must die before there is a solution to the Iraqi war (if there ever will be one), and I can't even beging to know what the families and loved ones of those who have lost someone in Iraq feels.

Centurion 08-07-2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Heron
Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.
I doubt you would say that if one of your loved ones was in that 1000.

Yes it is war, but the question remains: WAS/IS it necessary for these people to die, and to CONTINUE TO DIE?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
When do we say: "Enuf is enuf. Bring the soldiers home!"
At 2000 deaths, at 20,000 deaths, at *50,000* deaths?

BRISK 08-07-2004 12:43 PM

I thought this one was strange:

Quote:

Pfc. Paul J. Bueche. 19. Died when the tire he was changing on a UH-60 Black Hawk helicoper exploded
Killed by an exploding helicopter tire?

DatingGold 08-07-2004 12:44 PM

whats sober?

PerfectionGirls 08-07-2004 12:46 PM

Quote:

Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.
Go figure.... some dumb ass, uneducated, hillbilly comment would come from your ass.

You truly have no clue on whats going on around you do you?

If they died for a reason that yes... but they were sent to their death based on lies and misinformation.

Wake up!

The Heron - I'm Ignorant

Fletch XXX 08-07-2004 12:47 PM

http://www.civilwarphotos.net/files/images/537.jpg

proud to have been here before you fucking bastards turned this country to shit.

all you know is death.

taste it.

freeadultcontent 08-07-2004 12:58 PM

Did they happen to break it down by annual income?

Doctor Dre 08-07-2004 01:02 PM

1000 dead person to protect 250 million other aiin't nothing ...


WW2 was 55 millions death total

Vitasoy 08-07-2004 01:36 PM

RIP for all those people :(

Fletch XXX 08-07-2004 01:41 PM

if you REALLY want sobering facts why dont you people talk about the maimed, has it reached 8000 yet?

I know being killed is rough on families, but dont let ONLY the deaths sway your mind, THINK of the people who will go on now either debating suicide weekly or simply living in pain and making everyones life around them difficult.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/img/amp5.jpg

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...icle&sid= 654

baddog 08-07-2004 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xclusive
Thanks for bringing down my saturday...:321GFY fuck you bush send your daughters over there...
You do realize that this is an all volunteer army, right?

While the loss of life is sad, it is rather amazing that there are so few that they can put up all their pictures. I would have liked to have seen them try that during Nam, Korea, WWI, WWII

Centurion 08-07-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
1000 dead person to protect 250 million other aiin't nothing ...


WW2 was 55 millions death total

But that's comparing apples to oranges.
BIG difference in reason and need to go to war in World War II

You have to keep this in context..and you just cannot say "Well we lost MILLIONS in WWII, so this is no big thing."

baddog 08-07-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
they were sent to their death based on lies and misinformation.


really? what lies?

Centurion 08-07-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
if you REALLY want sobering facts why dont you people talk about the maimed, has it reached 8000 yet?

I know being killed is rough on families, but dont let ONLY the deaths sway your mind, THINK of the people who will go on now either debating suicide weekly or simply living in pain and making everyones life around them difficult.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/img/amp5.jpg

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...icle&sid= 654


No, did not break down the casualites...only deaths..1049 coaliton deaths to the time they printed this.
Casualties graph/list would be TOO BIG to be put online.

But I agree with you, all of the maimed, both physically & psycologocially is overwhelming too!

baddog 08-07-2004 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
I thought this one was strange:



Killed by an exploding helicopter tire?

yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

baddog 08-07-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickHimself
That's so sad. All these people my age killed for nothing :(
NickHimself
No brains, no headaches

adhesive 08-07-2004 02:22 PM

Once you guys are done justifying these deaths, can somebody please tell me how we're safer?

Centurion 08-07-2004 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

That's fine (so to speak), but again, really not relevant to the point of this thread.

Peaches 08-07-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

Exactly.

adhesive 08-07-2004 02:26 PM

Who cares if I murder people? People die every day...

brand0n 08-07-2004 02:29 PM

Pfc. Steven Acosta 19 3rd Battalion, 67th Armored Regiment, 4th Infantry Division Calexico, California Died from a non-hostile gunshot wound in Baqubah, Iraq, on October 26, 2003


wtf is a non hostile gunshot wound? i would figure anyone shooting at you to be considered hostile.

Elli 08-07-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
Pfc. Steven Acosta 19 3rd Battalion, 67th Armored Regiment, 4th Infantry Division Calexico, California Died from a non-hostile gunshot wound in Baqubah, Iraq, on October 26, 2003


wtf is a non hostile gunshot wound? i would figure anyone shooting at you to be considered hostile.

Maybe a gun misfired? Or someone shot into the air to celebrate and the bullet happened to come back down on someone's head?

gazool 08-07-2004 02:32 PM

1 dead is tragic - 1000 deaths is just statistics...
They could also do a list of all the kids who got killed in traffic last year...

adhesive 08-07-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

We should start more wars to keep our troops away from the dangers of the United States.

Fletch XXX 08-07-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Maybe a gun misfired? Or someone shot into the air to celebrate and the bullet happened to come back down on someone's head?
non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

Centurion 08-07-2004 06:53 PM

Don't know if anyone saw the CBS evening news tonite, but one of their segments was how Combat Stress is starting to really hit returning G.I.s big time.

And they went on to say (was a bit suprised to find that these stats are considered HIGH), that at least 90% of all combat troops had shot at someone, at least 90% had seen a dead body, and that at least 48% killed an enemy combatant.

These numbers are really high compared to say Viet Nam?

pornguy 08-07-2004 08:46 PM

Did you see this???


http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ex.fa18ef.html

Interesting

fr8 08-07-2004 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

Yep. Just another word for their coverups. its sad.

Centurion 08-08-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

The oxymorons ABOUND here!
What's so friendly about "friendly fire"
And any bullet that hits you did not come from "NON HOSTILE" means..to me..any bullet fired is hostile.

Paul Markham 08-08-2004 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
really? what lies?
Is stupid your new nick name?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3545710.stm

Just one of many news articles that are coming out weekly to show that the evidence of this entire war was flawed at best, at worse was a lie.

My friends son was in Iraq and though at the front, he walked into villages not know he would walk out again. He's in specail services and fought in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The biggest different to him was, in Afghan he felt welcomes, in Iraq he felt hated. When will some Americans come to realise the world does not love or respect them because they are Americans. Both things have to be earned.

One war did earn it and then the next lost it.

Paul Markham 08-08-2004 12:55 AM

The other frightening thing about the list is look at how many died from "Non Hostile" activities.

sean416 08-08-2004 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
really? what lies?
I cant beleive I'm actually replying to one of your posts, I normally avoid them at all cost. But, this one needed a reply.

1. Weapons of Mass Destruction (where are they?)

2. America is Safer (America raised its warning level based on Pakistani intelligence. WTF! Knowing full well that Osama and Al Queda are the number one threat at the moment, why tie up 130 thousand troops in Iraq who were the number 5 (being generous) threat at the time of invasion. So there's 15 thousand troops looking for Osama and 130 thousand in Iraq.)

3. Iraq was apart of the 9/11 tragedy. (9/11 comission reports say they were not involved)

Shall I continue?

I know you're republican, I know you hate Canada and I know you're just a message board character. But please, take a long hard look at all of those people listed in the link to cnn. Think of who they were as a person. Think of their mothers, their fathers, their children, their friends, etc. Please take the time to do that before you reply with ignorant, biased and aloof remarks about your support for this war.

:2 cents:

sean416 08-08-2004 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Heron
Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.
Your immaturity is obvious with this kind of reply. If ONE person dies it's a tragedy, no matter what the circumstances are. With 1000 deaths and no justified cause to date it's MURDER. Saddam hussein is on trial for killing his own people, if there was any justice in the world BUSH would be next.

:2 cents:

Joe Citizen 08-08-2004 01:18 AM

Anybody stupid enough to voluntarily join the military deserves to die.


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