Looking for a CA lawyer for this 2257 bs
 

I need to find a lawyer in the Southern California area that is familiar with online porn lat and this 2257 shit that is about to go down. Can anyone recommend somebody in this area?

I don't think people realize how big this really is...

According to an article I read...I think it was AVN.....95% of the people are not compliant as is. Why should they care about any new laws? :glugglug

Ignorant fucks.

Well I guess thats 95% less competition, I can't wait :glugglug

I do...

Just dumped 120,000 photos, that we could not get 2257 docs for, because the photographer died, or went out of business, etc etc etc, and bought brand new content... Now our members love us even more, and we're 100% compliant with the new regs.. :D

Where can we REALLY get the facts about this crap ?

Tgps
Galleries
Etc.......

You sir...Are just like every other idiot around here.

You did not read the proposed regulations or consult with an attorney who knew their shit.

Congrats on wasting your money. :1orglaugh

I wonder how many more of these fucking retards will do this same shit.

Hit me up bro...I'll give you what I know. Beyond that....Talk to a qualified attorney.

So i guess it's time to pack and leave...


Who's moving overseas, where BIG BROTHER and A.S.H.C.R.O.F.T sick fucks can't do a thing ?

I'm confused...
If 95% aren't compliant as is
And Ashhahahahaha wants to shut us all down...

Why (from what I've heard) has he made ZERO 2257 raids?

But is this shit like PASSED ?
I doubt it........

Can you imagine the sum of work for them to check out everything.

Fuck they can't grab Bin Laden
I think it's like winning the lotery, if your ass is on the line well.....

Wasting my money??? Nahhhh. Content is an investment..

And actually I did read the proposed regulations, AND consulted an attorney that knows his shit...

With the content we dumped, there was no possible way to provide the documentation required by the new proposed regulations, hence it was going to have to be dumped anyway. If the photographer is no longer around, or the content company dead and bured a long time ago, how prey tell would I get proof of age...

WIth the content we bought and our currrent stock, we are in the process of doing the following:

Creating the documentation in paper form and in accordance to section 75.2 Maintenance of records.

We are also in the process of complying with section 75.3 Categorization of records.

Section 75.4 Location of records.
Section 75.6 Exemption statement.
and Section 75.8 Location of the statement.

SO yes, I and my lawyers have done our fucking homework, perhaps you should do yours and not jump to conclusions that everyone is just a fucking retard....

you already have the database with the URL locations of each picture? Dang, you work quick!

Hummm he's got a point there but let's stick to the topic please :2 cents:

Nope, didn't say we were finished, just that we're working on it... It hasn't been passed yet, so we're not in panic mode to get it all finished yet...

Isnt' there a grandfather clause for all that existing shit?

I believe anything produced before Novermber 1 1990 is exempt, but i'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me on that...

If you think this has to be passed by Congress then you really need to look at what a regulation is.

Changes to regulations do not need to be passed by anyone but the Attorney General.

It doesn't go before Congress for a vote and no-one in the administration gives one single shit about costs to us or the privacy concerns of our models.

The Attorney General will sign the regulation and that will then bring it into force.

Costs and privacy are non-starters - they want to shut down the porn business and this is one way they can get rid of a lot of us very quickly.

Oh - and BTW - the regulation will still be on the books regardless of which party wins the election and it will stay on the books to come back and bite us in the future.

If they don't get us this time they probably will the next time a republican gets his hands on power.

Jay,

I will hook you up with my partners icq.

Thanks Cory.

15 responses down and somebody finally answers my question.

Typical.

Ok. He is going over all the "ins and outs" and establishing a business philosophy for our MGPs, as well as some others that he works with.

He said it will take him a couple of days, at which point, he will talk / icq or whatever with you over it all. He said it was no problem, he deals with compliancy / legal issues for aliving :)

So probably by Tuesday at the latest. I will get him to contact you.

There is a good chance that he will be in Huntington Beach tomorrow to have some drinks with us as well. Hopefully we will see you then, I will call you.

yes, which is what makes all these people taking content from 1980 and trying to find docs for it funny

Bla bla bla


If your attorney had done his homework as you have stated then they would have explained section 75.2 to you a little better and you would not have dumped any content....With this in mind....You are still a fucking retard.

Gee....Ya think?

:glugglug

Not to mention certain idiots dumping content. :1orglaugh

Thanks again - it's on tomorrow - it's US open here in HB and there will be sluts everywhere.

Since we are on the subject what about this:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=330282

Going offshore.

I would like to know why some of our great RICH affiliate programs or some of the self-proclaimed millionair webmasters around here not challenging this.

From what I understand, and I have a Masters in Political Science so I know a little something about this, though not nearly as qualified as an attorney to deal with it, there are several key constitutional concerns that can in fact put an end to this change in regulation.

1. The models privacy being a huge issue, and no it doesn't matter if Asshat doesn't care about their privacy, the point blank legal discussion is that you are now putting thet models REAL NAME, birthdate, and state they currently reside in in the hands of anybody who wants it.

Hell I am not an internet genious by any means but if I want to track someone down and stalk them I need less information than that to do it.

2. This simply makes it impossible to do business for a lot of TGP owners that do not supply have their own content. The guys who simply crop and post thumbs for 100's of galleries a week cannot possibly keep all of that information.

Not everyone in this business is a millionair work-a-holic, some of us are merly trying to pay our bills and suppliment our incomes.


Everyone here keeps saying the administration does not care about the models privacy or our concerns, but quite frankly it doesn't fucking matter. The regulations can be challenged in court, on several very strong factors, and in court it doesn't if they give a shit or not, THEY ARE IN COURT DISCUSSING LEGAL ISSUES and their defense of the changes in regulations cannot be, "We do not care about that."


So anyone going to challenge that? You sponsors programs know for a fact you need us little guys promoting the hell out of you or you wouldnt deal with us to begin with. So you better start thinking about protecting us.

Jeffrey Douglas is your man.
Hes been my lawyer for 2257 since 1996.
He got Max Hardcore off the hook.

http://www.lawyers.com/jdouglaslaw/

Tell him Matt from Matt's Models sent you.

heres a bit about the Max Hardcore thing and his reference to Jeffrey Douglas:

http://www.ainews.com/story/6782/

The people who have the kind of money that you are referring to also remember the days when there were a lot less people in this industry and there was a lot more money being made.

The average affiliate is a fucking moron and a huge pain in the ass to the affilate programs. Only myself and pimpdog from Epic Cash have the balls to tell you this....Basically because neither one of us want to deal with these stupid fuckers if we don't have to.

Thin the herds.

By the way,

One very important thing to consider here is.

YOU CANNOT PUT SOMEBODY IN JAIL FOR NOT HAVING THE PROPER PAPERWORK!!!!!

Catching someone with an underage model on their site is one thing but your going to throw a harmless webmaster in jail for not having a 30 year old's id on hand when they raid you is quite another and I doubt any court in the country would see fit to send you to jail for a clerical error.

LOL

you might wanna ask Mike Jones about that one dude.
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...ntent_ID=83005

No shit. :1orglaugh

What about the BIG hosting players ?
I'm sure they have views on this. How the hell we don't hear from them cause if i was a big hosting company, i would check this out ASP !!!!!
Lots and lots of people are going to move away.

Oh yeah, internet was created so it can't be destroyed (by the army) beleive me, porn won't die because the US decides it's time to pull the plug

So funny that they think they can own the world :1orglaugh

Ya u can try Mr.Greg piccionelli Tel # is 310 553-3375 ext 520 I beleive a great guy . Good luck to u .By the way u r right it is important issue we have to deal with it.

This shit gives me a headache, who wants to start a resource center for this bullshit?

a discussion center for legal advice obtained + concerns / questions.

The record-keeping requirements apply to ``[w]hoever produces'' the
material in question. 18 U.S.C. 2257(a). The statute defines
``produces'' as ``to produce, manufacture, or publish any book,
magazine, periodical, film, video tape, computer generated image,
digital image, or picture, or other similar matter and includes the
duplication, reproduction, or reissuing of any such matter, but does
not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not
involve hiring, contracting for[,] managing, or otherwise arranging for
the participation of the performers depicted.'' 18 U.S.C. 2257(h)(3).


but does
not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not
involve hiring, contracting for[,] managing, or otherwise arranging for
the participation of the performers depicted.'' 18 U.S.C. 2257(h)(3).

Bastards trying to cover everything :(

Damn I need a lawyer... or hell I might just sell hentai. Can't make me get 2257 info for a damn toon.

OK - here's another question. I just talked to a lawyer and he said that the new regs applied only to page published after the 8/24 deadline.

I'm not sure that I believe this 100%. Isn't every time you log onto a webpage isn't it published again? How about modifying it?

thats a good thing.. chances of getting screwed is less, when everyone else is not compliant..

He's right.

Section 75.2 paragraph D.