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alex_a 05-02-2004 01:24 PM

opening an offshore bank account question
 
i'm thinking to open an offshore bank account and i have some questions:

what is the procedure to open an offshore bank account? if i open an offshore bank account i don't have to pay any taxes anymore? what is the cost to open an offshore bank account and after i open the account how do i receive my money from sponsors?

any other commentary is more than welcome

Amputate Your Head 05-02-2004 01:25 PM

if you're doing it for no other reason than to evade taxes, the IRS will eventually nail you to a cross. They're starting to crack down on that shit.

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
if you're doing it for no other reason than to evade taxes, the IRS will eventually nail you to a cross. They're starting to crack down on that shit.
Tax evasion and tax avoidence are two different things. As long as you have a legal offshore entity and don't repatriate the funds, the IRS can't legally do a single thing.

alex_a 05-02-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
if you're doing it for no other reason than to evade taxes, the IRS will eventually nail you to a cross. They're starting to crack down on that shit.
i'm from eastern europe.. we don't have IRS here yet.. but i'm tired to pay these taxes (40%) :(

Paul Waters 05-02-2004 01:27 PM

Do a google search on offshore back accounts.

Fr ex,

http://www.finor.com/offshore_banking_centre.htm

alex_a 05-02-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
Do a google search on offshore back accounts.

thanks.. but i'm looking from some opinions and answares at my questions from peoples that already have an offshore account..

Amputate Your Head 05-02-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Tax evasion and tax avoidence are two different things. As long as you have a legal offshore entity and don't repatriate the funds, the IRS can't legally do a single thing.
I just watched something about this a few weeks ago. You may have a LEGAL offshore entity, but if that entity serves no real purpose other than to funnel money away from tax responsibility, they are starting to classify you as a tax evader. From what they said, this is because this type of hollow entity is becoming more popular recently.

And in all truth, it IS tax evasion if your entity does nothing more than shield you from taxes.

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex_a
i'm from eastern europe.. we don't have IRS here yet.. but i'm tired to pay these taxes (40%) :(
I would recommend the offshore online banking from one of the British banks. HBSC offers very good worldwide services. Another option is Citibank. Expect to deposit $5000 to open an account.

Alex Xe 05-02-2004 01:34 PM

Open account on CYPRUS! :)

Paul Waters 05-02-2004 01:37 PM

Carefully planning the legal jurisdiction of your web business is very important.

There is a lot of flexibility when all you do is send bytes around the world.

:rasta

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I just watched something about this a few weeks ago. You may have a LEGAL offshore entity, but if that entity serves no real purpose other than to funnel money away from tax responsibility, they are starting to classify you as a tax evader. From what they said, this is because this type of hollow entity is becoming more popular recently.

And in all truth, it IS tax evasion if your entity does nothing more than shield you from taxes.

Avoidence is legal.

If you have an offshore company making offshore revenue and you have no immediate plans of repatriation of assets then the IRS can't do squat. The IRS in international matters has almost no power to enforce local laws so they push the idea on the news that hey can to scare people.

You have no requirement to pay taxes to one jurisdiction from profits made in another. U.S. Oil companies funnel billions of dollars every year into offshore corporations because they have no plans of bringing the money back to the U.S. This is legal.

It is in the IRS interest to gather as much revenue as possible whether they have a right to it or not.

alex_a 05-02-2004 01:58 PM

no response to any of my questions untill now :(

pussyluver 05-02-2004 02:08 PM

If you live in the US, hire an attorney and get the appropriate legal advice. When IRS knocks on your door or freezes your account, a copy of this thread won't mean shit.

Trax 05-02-2004 02:12 PM

Giorgio seems to know what he is talking about :winkwink:

Jace 05-02-2004 02:26 PM

what if you make $3k a week, cash in hand....how do you get that money from your house to the offshore account?

Basic_man 05-02-2004 02:28 PM

Opening offshore account are alot of trouble! :2 cents:

chupacabra 05-02-2004 02:30 PM

interesting thread... google searches on this subject are frustrating i've found in the past; i've wondered just as jace has how to get money into these accounts in the first place from the US, if you've already been paid in US dollars what would be the appropriate method for getting the funds into your offshore account (just for the sake of the question lets say no solid amounts over $5000US)..?

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pussyluver
If you live in the US, hire an attorney and get the appropriate legal advice. When IRS knocks on your door or freezes your account, a copy of this thread won't mean shit.
How can the IRS freeze a foreign account?

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
what if you make $3k a week, cash in hand....how do you get that money from your house to the offshore account?
Ask any Colombian. :P

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 02:47 PM

http://www.ocra.com/index.asp

alex_a 05-02-2004 02:47 PM

so, is anyone here that realy have an offshore account/company and can answere at my question?

alex_a 05-02-2004 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
Opening offshore account are alot of trouble! :2 cents:
why?

ProfitPrograms 05-02-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex_a
i'm thinking to open an offshore bank account and i have some questions:

what is the procedure to open an offshore bank account? if i open an offshore bank account i don't have to pay any taxes anymore? what is the cost to open an offshore bank account and after i open the account how do i receive my money from sponsors?

any other commentary is more than welcome

alexa - contact me privately for info

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex_a
no response to any of my questions untill now :(
I have two offshore corps.

How much money a month are we talking about, Alex? If it is less than $10,000, all this won't be cost effective.

baycouples 05-02-2004 03:09 PM

If you are really worried about this and want a 100% correct answer - hire a tax or corporate attorney who will oversea the process or just give a legal advice. Let me know if you want me to recommend you my corp. attorney.

alex_a 05-02-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baycouples
If you are really worried about this and want a 100% correct answer - hire a tax or corporate attorney who will oversea the process or just give a legal advice. Let me know if you want me to recommend you my corp. attorney.
i just want to know how much will cost.. and what is the process to opening an offshore account..

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex_a
i just want to know how much will cost.. and what is the process to opening an offshore account..
Offshore bank account: $5000 (initial deposit and must maintain that balance)
Offshore corporation: $500-$3000 plus $200-$500 yearly renewal

This thread gave me an excellent business idea. Adult webmaster business structure resource site.

bizmak 05-02-2004 03:16 PM

open an acount in Swiss:)

gxer 05-02-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
http://www.ocra.com/index.asp
what about identify the source of funds etc ...

i mean money from adult biz ?

Any experiense with this ?

herbal logic 05-02-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
what about identify the source of funds etc ...

i mean money from adult biz ?

Any experiense with this ?

control and ownership are 2 entirely different things

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
what about identify the source of funds etc ...

i mean money from adult biz ?

Any experiense with this ?

The source doesn't matter. You aren't going to bring cash.

baycouples 05-02-2004 03:22 PM

alex_a,

Different countries are different. In some countries - it's cheaper, but economy is bad, in others - it's more expensive, but it's a more solid economy. Also, if you have a US attorney - you are probably a better off with an English speaking country.

Also, some countries require you to register as a business there and obtrain appropriate licenses.

hetomito 05-02-2004 03:36 PM

did you hear about Payswiss, maybe they can help you
about this, switzerland..

Jace 05-02-2004 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
The source doesn't matter. You aren't going to bring cash.
hm...what if it is cash?

Amputate Your Head 05-02-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Avoidence is legal.

If you have an offshore company making offshore revenue and you have no immediate plans of repatriation of assets then the IRS can't do squat. The IRS in international matters has almost no power to enforce local laws so they push the idea on the news that hey can to scare people.

You have no requirement to pay taxes to one jurisdiction from profits made in another. U.S. Oil companies funnel billions of dollars every year into offshore corporations because they have no plans of bringing the money back to the U.S. This is legal.

It is in the IRS interest to gather as much revenue as possible whether they have a right to it or not.

well, until my overpriced accountant changes his mind on the subject and tells me it's a good idea, I won't be screwing around with the IRS. Fucking with the Mob would be less dangerous.

herbal logic 05-02-2004 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
well, until my overpriced accountant changes his mind on the subject and tells me it's a good idea, I won't be screwing around with the IRS. Fucking with the Mob would be less dangerous.
your asset column is huge?

Amputate Your Head 05-02-2004 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by herbal logic
your asset column is huge?
big enough

Giorgio_Xo 05-02-2004 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
well, until my overpriced accountant changes his mind on the subject and tells me it's a good idea, I won't be screwing around with the IRS. Fucking with the Mob would be less dangerous.
Ampiezza,

I completely agree that everyone should consult a professional in the field before taking any action. My attorney is button #1 on my speed dial. I believe your situation is quite different.

You are a U.S. citizen providing services render in the U.S. to primarily U.S. companies. It would be illegal for you to shelter that revenue offshore. In this case forming a U.S. corporation is the wisest move.

I am in no way promoting tax evasion. A company should always pay the correct amount of taxes for the service and products rendered from its home jurisdiction.

Our industry is global in nature. There is no reason to pay more for income generated in other countries if that money is not repatriated.

I lived and did business in South America for several years. Why should I have to pay U.S. taxes when I never brought that income back to the U.S. and paid local taxes?

As I mentioned before, tax evasion is wrong but wise tax avoidence is virtue. If an adult webmaster makes money in several countries he would be wise to funnel it correctly to maximize returns.

johndoebob 05-02-2004 06:41 PM

http://www.fethard.biz/ everybody can wire you money and you can get an anonymous debit card and get the money in your country,many adult programs pay by fethard too.No minimum deposit and you can put the money into your acc with money order and other anonymous methods too where you don't have to go to your bank and get your cash money into the account.Also they don't ask many questions :winkwink:

chupacabra 05-02-2004 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
http://www.fethard.biz/ everybody can wire you money and you can get an anonymous debit card and get the money in your country,many adult programs pay by fethard too.No minimum deposit and you can put the money into your acc with money order and other anonymous methods too where you don't have to go to your bank and get your cash money into the account.Also they don't ask many questions :winkwink:
hmm... looks scary, location = Montevideo, URUGUAY..

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