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421Fill 04-02-2004 12:57 AM

Guards at California Youth Authority beat youth prisoners on video...
 
Guards at California Youth Authority beat youth prisoners on video and they will not be prosecuted. WTF?! They just showed the videos on our local news and the one gurad looks like he hits one of the kids 50 times... the article says it was 28 times. Does anyone know where to find the video online?

Story Here: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2968940/detail.html

The quote that angers me... when speaking on why they won't prosecute the guards:

"I believe the counselors were defending themselves," said David Darchuk, president of the institution's union chapter, after viewing the video.

He noted the video does not show the beginning of the incident in the office, where internal investigators say one of the youths started the fight by punching Brown in the nose, breaking it and causing substantial bleeding."

This only gives the guard the right to take the kid to the ground and cuff him and lock him in solitaire then press charges... NOT to pummel the kid like there was no tomorrow.

Oh yeah, the whole time another guard was macing the kids while they got beat.


Anyone seeing the video would agree that these guards need to go to prison. The one that hit the most was on top of the kids BACK while the kid was laying on his stomache trying to cover his head, and every single punch landed SOLID and HARD... no misses at all. Holy fuck they need to go to jail.

Illicit 04-02-2004 12:58 AM

I saw that on the news tonight. Its Fucked. Send them away.

torrey 04-02-2004 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
Guards at California Youth Authority beat youth prisoners on video and they will not be prosecuted. WTF?! They just showed the videos on our local news and the one gurad looks like he hits one of the kids 50 times... the article says it was 28 times. Does anyone know where to find the video online?

Would like to see the video as well. :(

born4porn 04-02-2004 01:03 AM

has anyone got a link for the video?

Mr. Marks 04-02-2004 01:06 AM

why is it when it comes to authorities
abusing their powers, justice seems to
roll slower?

=^..^= 04-02-2004 01:07 AM

they ALWAYS say it was "defense"

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

I'd liek to see the vid.

PostWhore 04-02-2004 01:09 AM

wanna see the video

421Fill 04-02-2004 01:11 AM

sorry about not posting the video... I'm still searching google... dun know much about newsgroups, but maybe someone else will.

BigFish 04-02-2004 01:18 AM

Why is it that people always believe the media's "cut" version of the video? It's not that hard to understand that the media's main goal is to stir controversy to draw viewers. Honestly, it that SO damn hard for some of you drama queens to understand?

421Fill 04-02-2004 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Why is it that people always believe the media's "cut" version of the video? It's not that hard to understand that the media's main goal is to stir controversy to draw viewers. Honestly, it that SO damn hard for some of you drama queens to understand?
unless you've actually seen the 'cut' version for yourself, you really shouldn't comment. Even if the kid punched the guard in the fucking throat in the part that got edited out, it doesn not allow, nor justify him to do what the 'cut' version showed.

rounders 04-02-2004 01:26 AM

crazy

BigFish 04-02-2004 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by turbo


unless you've actually seen the 'cut' version for yourself, you really shouldn't comment. Even if the kid punched the guard in the fucking throat in the part that got edited out, it doesn not allow, nor justify him to do what the 'cut' version showed.

Are you kidding? Do you know what type of kids the CYA houses? Nevermind that question. Unless you're actually at the SCENE of the incident, YOU shouldn't really comment on what the intent of the guard was based on a video that the media releases. The CYA holds the worst of the worst kids in California. This isn't your typical Juvi.

Gheenz 04-02-2004 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Are you kidding? Do you know what type of kids the CYA houses? Nevermind that question. Unless you're actually at the SCENE of the incident, YOU shouldn't really comment on what the intent of the guard was based on a video that the media releases. The CYA holds the worst of the worst kids in California. This isn't your typical Juvi.

Yeah no kidding! Hardened gang-bangers and their pals with nothing to lose. I'm sure the violence in those places is worse than most US prisons & those guards probably have to deal with it day in and day out.

421Fill 04-02-2004 01:38 AM

I know exactly what CYA is, I spent 2.5 years there from 15 to 18.

In the time it toook him to hit the kid 25 of the 28 times he could have cuffed him 10 times over. He was not punching him to keep the kid from punching him... the kid was on his stomache, covering his head.

Steve 04-02-2004 01:38 AM

yeah, a real shame when a choirboy catches a beatdown

stop crying

Mr Pheer 04-02-2004 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Are you kidding? Do you know what type of kids the CYA houses? Nevermind that question. Unless you're actually at the SCENE of the incident, YOU shouldn't really comment on what the intent of the guard was based on a video that the media releases. The CYA holds the worst of the worst kids in California. This isn't your typical Juvi.

I saw the video, the kid was curled up in a ball on the floor, the guy was on top of him, punching away

the kid was not resisting at all, he was trying to cover his face. He was obviously subdued and the guy punched him another 20 times or so, just for sport I guess

BigFish 04-02-2004 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by turbo
I know exactly what CYA is, I spent 2.5 years there from 15 to 18.

In the time it toook him to hit the kid 25 of the 28 times he could have cuffed him 10 times over. He was not punching him to keep the kid from punching him... the kid was on his stomache, covering his head.

I highly doubt that you even seen the outside of CYA if this incident comes as a shock to you. Everytime there's a fight in petty Juvi, kids are on the brink of getting their arms broken by the "hold" and you're sitting here crying foul when a guard hits the kid?

421Fill 04-02-2004 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


I highly doubt that you even seen the outside of CYA if this incident comes as a shock to you. Everytime there's a fight in petty Juvi, kids are on the brink of getting their arms broken by the "hold" and you're sitting here crying foul when a guard hits the kid?

have you even seen the video?

Webby 04-02-2004 01:52 AM

"I had to beat them up because they were verbally abusing me.. and no, I only smashed their faces in 28 times because they made me do it...."

stev0 04-02-2004 01:53 AM

they're not kids... they are 19 & 21 years old.

Chances are they probably deserved it... but i have no idea what they're in for, or what they may have done to piss off the guards. So i wont jump to any conclusions :)

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by turbo


have you even seen the video?

Hell yeah i've seen it. It's laughable. I also think it's pathetic of you to lie about being in CYA. hah They should learn not to fuck around with staff.

421Fill 04-02-2004 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Hell yeah i've seen it. It's laughable. I also think it's pathetic of you to lie about being in CYA. hah They should learn not to fuck around with staff.

I'm glad you think I am lying, lol. I think you're lying about seeing the video.

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by turbo


I'm glad you think I am lying, lol. I think you're lying about seeing the video.

The first day you're there, they lay down the law not to fuck around with staff. You're posting like this is the first time you seen this but this in fact happens almost every day in there. Even in Juvi, when two kids fight they get their arms bent behind their back to the point where some of their arms break. Dont think I seen the video? Grainy black and white video with guard in white hitting the kid in the corner.

If you been in CYA and Juvi, then what's the first thing staff yells when there's a fight breaking out? _________

Webby 04-02-2004 02:08 AM

stev0:

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Chances are they probably deserved it...
That must make it OK then? :-)

There is a "school" for "problem children" from the US in this country. The kids were literally abused to the extent the place was raided by the police and child welfare org. They were not fed, subjected to walking the equivalent of 100 miles round a "punishment yard", injected with shit to shut them up, threatened when "outsiders" visited, could not raise their heads upright in "classrooms", beaten up by the "assistants" - the list of "offences" was something like 150. Hell.. they even injected them with stuff to incapacitate them when investigators wanted to take statements.

That shithouse was closed down and official complaints passed to the US Embassy and also to UN Human Rights people for action. The US owners are sitting in a jail cell awaiting trial here because the authorities want em firmly locked up and not relying on US laws.

421Fill 04-02-2004 02:12 AM

dude, I don't care if you think I am lying. I know where I grew up.

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by turbo
dude, I don't care if you think I am lying. I know where I grew up.
That's what i thought. Your pussy reaction to this video shows that you probably never even made it to IBR rooms in JuVenILE hALL.

421Fill 04-02-2004 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


That's what i thought. Your pussy reaction to this video shows that you probably never even made it to IBR rooms in JuVenILE hALL.

good lord. why are you obsessed with this point?

YA#50669 OH Close School For Boys - Del Norte Hall... started ot on Fresno Hall but got kicked to DelNorte for getting my ass kicked and not telling a counselor. Mama Roe was my counselor on Del Norte. Call the fucking place.

You ever stop to think that this is WHY this story bother sme so much?

Gheenz 04-02-2004 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by turbo


good lord. why are you obsessed with this point?

YA#50669 OH Close School For Boys - Del Norte Hall... started ot on Fresno Hall but got kicked to DelNorte for getting my ass kicked and not telling a counselor. Mama Roe was my counselor on Del Norte. Call the fucking place.

You ever stop to think that this is WHY this story bother sme so much?

What did you get your ass kicked for?

421Fill 04-02-2004 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by milhouse_dick

What did you get your ass kicked for?

Because I tattooed an aarchy symbol on my leg and the the guy didn't like it. He was 19, so he went to prison, and I went to Del Norte.

Rich 04-02-2004 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Are you kidding? Do you know what type of kids the CYA houses? Nevermind that question. Unless you're actually at the SCENE of the incident, YOU shouldn't really comment on what the intent of the guard was based on a video that the media releases. The CYA holds the worst of the worst kids in California. This isn't your typical Juvi.

I hope your sig is being ironic, or maybe I should get my friends in Florida to report your site to the State's DA as being extremely offensive. Hope you like your door being kicked in without a warrant. :thumbsup

Rich 04-02-2004 02:29 AM

Actually after reading all of your posts in this thread I can tell you're probably serious, because you sound like a real moron.

Good luck, hope they like porn down there in Lakeland.

Gheenz 04-02-2004 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by turbo


Because I tattooed an aarchy symbol on my leg and the the guy didn't like it. He was 19, so he went to prison, and I went to Del Norte.

Just because he didn't like it?! Jeeze! Well good to see you in here and not in prison!

421Fill 04-02-2004 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by milhouse_dick

Just because he didn't like it?! Jeeze! Well good to see you in here and not in prison!

hehe, thanks. I'm 33 now, so I've been out of trouble for 15 years.

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by Rich
Actually after reading all of your posts in this thread I can tell you're probably serious, because you sound like a real moron.

Good luck, hope they like porn down there in Lakeland.

Are you on drugs or something. WTF are you yapping about.

Rich 04-02-2004 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Are you on drugs or something. WTF are you yapping about.

You have a Bush banner in your sig, and you're posting on an adult webmaster board. You're probably the biggest joke on the face of the earth, both your peers and political party realize you're a hypocritical moron yet you can't see it.

I think it would be entertaining to see what your local DA would think of you running a porn business that offends citizens. Since no doubt you support the radical right wing agenda, I'm sure you'd love to see it in action.

Living For Today 04-02-2004 02:44 AM

thats a deadset fucking disgrace.

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by Rich


You have a Bush banner in your sig, and you're posting on an adult webmaster board. You're probably the biggest joke on the face of the earth, both your peers and political party realize you're a hypocritical moron yet you can't see it.

I think it would be entertaining to see what your local DA would think of you running a porn business that offends citizens. Since no doubt you support the radical right wing agenda, I'm sure you'd love to see it in action.

Who said that I am running a porn business? LOL. I just have this banner in my sig to piss people like you off. It's entertaining for me. Now keep talking and entertain me some more.

Rich 04-02-2004 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Who said that I am running a porn business? LOL. I just have this banner in my sig to piss people like you off. It's entertaining for me. Now keep talking and entertain me some more.

Ok, hope that domain isn't yours, and/or hope you have a good attorney. I don't see how supporting a lunatic like Bush can be a joke to some people, but that's ok, when Castro takes over the US you guys will be the first locked up. :glugglug

BigFish 04-02-2004 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


You have a Bush banner in your sig, and you're posting on an adult webmaster board. You're probably the biggest joke on the face of the earth, both your peers and political party realize you're a hypocritical moron yet you can't see it.

I think it would be entertaining to see what your local DA would think of you running a porn business that offends citizens. Since no doubt you support the radical right wing agenda, I'm sure you'd love to see it in action.

I'm off now, but feel free to super cyber attack my SIG with your SCARY words all you want. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Rich 04-02-2004 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish


Who said that I am running a porn business?

BTW, if you're not running a porn business, you REALLY need to get a life. This is a board for adult webmasters.


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