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JFK 03-23-2004 03:26 AM

7 Traits of Millionaires, Do you have them ?
 
Or are you all Flash No Cash ?
http://money.msn.ca/articles/plannin...ng/P375709.asp
Just to get you started:2 cents:

Lace 03-23-2004 03:30 AM

Nice article.

Libertine 03-23-2004 03:31 AM

In other words: the best way to gather loads of money is not to enjoy it. Great advice indeed.

Rorschach 03-23-2004 03:31 AM

weeee :thumbsup

I like to live a simple lifestyle, except I do buy daily espressos, it's my one vice. :( I always feel guilty about spending up large.

JFK 03-23-2004 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
In other words: the best way to gather loads of money is not to enjoy it. Great advice indeed.
I have a friend who is pretty wealthy, but also rather miserly.Personally I wouldnt want to live like that:winkwink:

johnbosh 03-23-2004 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK


I have a friend who is pretty wealthy, but also rather miserly.Personally I wouldnt want to live like that:winkwink:

:D

VeriSexy 03-23-2004 03:39 AM

"The millionaire next door"

Great book, live like scrooge
:glugglug

Firehorse 03-23-2004 03:40 AM

Great read JFK! :)

Dawgy 03-23-2004 04:02 AM

thats definitely a good book, and while i agree with the authors almost 100%, its interesting to note #7:

"7. They chose the right occupations."

that kindof negates a lot of everything else the book says. of course if you choose the right occupation you can become a millionaire. it doesnt matter how you live your life, how frugal you are or how flashy you are, etc... its a lot easier to become a millionaire as a doctor than it is as a teacher, for example.

i think most of the time, those who consciously chose an occupation because of its wealth generating potential are more likely to become wealthy. no one goes into teaching with the aim of living frugal and retiring a millionaire. they go into teaching because they love teaching.

just my :2 cents: and observations

JFK 03-23-2004 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
thats definitely a good book, and while i agree with the authors almost 100%, its interesting to note #7:

"7. They chose the right occupations."

that kindof negates a lot of everything else the book says. of course if you choose the right occupation you can become a millionaire. it doesnt matter how you live your life, how frugal you are or how flashy you are, etc... its a lot easier to become a millionaire as a doctor than it is as a teacher, for example.

i think most of the time, those who consciously chose an occupation because of its wealth generating potential are more likely to become wealthy. no one goes into teaching with the aim of living frugal and retiring a millionaire. they go into teaching because they love teaching.

just my :2 cents: and observations

Doctors dont all become millionaires, I have conversations with mine, whenever I see him . By the time he pays his overhead , he ends up making about $17.24 per hour Cdn. This is after all the years of study and hard work. An uneducated worker on the Line makes more than that. All the young GP's in my area Quit after a few months, because they run themselfes ragged for nothing.

fuzebox 03-23-2004 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
thats definitely a good book, and while i agree with the authors almost 100%, its interesting to note #7:

"7. They chose the right occupations."

that kindof negates a lot of everything else the book says. of course if you choose the right occupation you can become a millionaire. it doesnt matter how you live your life, how frugal you are or how flashy you are, etc... its a lot easier to become a millionaire as a doctor than it is as a teacher, for example.

i think most of the time, those who consciously chose an occupation because of its wealth generating potential are more likely to become wealthy. no one goes into teaching with the aim of living frugal and retiring a millionaire. they go into teaching because they love teaching.

just my :2 cents: and observations

That's just what I was going to say...

You can ignore 1-5, but if you've got

6. They are proficient in targeting market opportunities.

and

7. They chose the right occupations.

You don't really need anything else.

quiet 03-23-2004 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK


Doctors dont all become millionaires, I have conversations with mine, whenever I see him . By the time he pays his overhead , he ends up making about $17.24 per hour Cdn. This is after all the years of study and hard work. An uneducated worker on the Line makes more than that. All the young GP's in my area Quit after a few months, because they run themselfes ragged for nothing.

i agree. my doctor who i've know my entire life, is not a millionaire. he does well, but there is a ton of pressure to keep up with the joneses in that profession. also bitches about the overhead, and crazy hours. he's a GP as well. specialists can make far, far more money.

fuzebox 03-23-2004 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK


Doctors dont all become millionaires, I have conversations with mine, whenever I see him . By the time he pays his overhead , he ends up making about $17.24 per hour Cdn. This is after all the years of study and hard work. An uneducated worker on the Line makes more than that. All the young GP's in my area Quit after a few months, because they run themselfes ragged for nothing.

Interesting, a friend of mine's father opened a family practice about 4 years after finishing med school, and finished the first year with $260k.

quiet 03-23-2004 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox


That's just what I was going to say...

You can ignore 1-5, but if you've got

6. They are proficient in targeting market opportunities.

and

7. They chose the right occupations.

You don't really need anything else.

i think number 1 is hugely important. i relate more to that one than any of the others. if you're spending more than you earn, doesn't matter how much you might make.

hova 03-23-2004 04:13 AM

Whats the use being a millionaire if you dont spend it??? Just to tell everybody you are a millionaire??

I feel weird with my spendnig habits now, but I rather have soem fun then having a couple of million in the bank

quiet 03-23-2004 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox


Interesting, a friend of mine's father opened a family practice about 4 years after finishing med school, and finished the first year with $260k.

before or after taxes? before or after living expenses?

born4porn 03-23-2004 04:14 AM

words to live by! :thumbsup

JFK 03-23-2004 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


i agree. my doctor who i've know my entire life, is not a millionaire. he does well, but there is a ton of pressure to keep up with the joneses in that profession. also bitches about the overhead, and crazy hours. he's a GP as well. specialists can make far, far more money.

There are about 20k people in Our region without a family Practicioner. My wife lost the last 3 doctors within a year or less. After they see the realities of day to day practice, they go back to school to specialise. My GP said he could make more $ by working a walk in clinic, where they can charge for everything.

Shoehorn! 03-23-2004 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
In other words: the best way to gather loads of money is not to enjoy it. Great advice indeed.
Yeah, that's what I got from the article too. Interesting article nontheless, but it does seem somewhat boring. :2 cents:

Paul Markham 03-23-2004 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK


Doctors dont all become millionaires, I have conversations with mine, whenever I see him . By the time he pays his overhead , he ends up making about $17.24 per hour Cdn. This is after all the years of study and hard work. An uneducated worker on the Line makes more than that. All the young GP's in my area Quit after a few months, because they run themselfes ragged for nothing.

there was a survey done in the UK a few years ago that compared professions with ordinary jobs and the earning potential of both.

It took a doctor something like 15 years until he earned more than bus driver, when you calculate the years training, expense of training and the time it took to earn the money. A teacher never overtook and a nurse was way behind. Some people do things for the love.

But that article seem to praise being a scrooge, I don't think going into debt by spending more than you earn is good, but I'm not leaving anything behind for my kids. :1orglaugh

$5 submissions 03-23-2004 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


i think number 1 is hugely important. i relate more to that one than any of the others. if you're spending more than you earn, doesn't matter how much you might make.

Wise words. Lifestyle is very addictive. People find themselves in trouble when their incomes fall but they are addicted to their lifestyle.

$5 submissions 03-23-2004 04:32 AM

The true measure of wealth is how far you've travelled in life.

-- old Filipino saying

Quote:

Originally posted by hova
Whats the use being a millionaire if you dont spend it??? Just to tell everybody you are a millionaire??

I feel weird with my spendnig habits now, but I rather have soem fun then having a couple of million in the bank


strobi 03-23-2004 04:35 AM

the most important one:

1. They live well below their means.

Yeah yeah I know you would say "you have to choose the right profession" blabla. But you can work on that. You can WORK to make money. Now, not spending it and investing it wise, ther's the key!

I only do a few extreme expenses once in a while just do do something with my money. For the rest of the time I live very "sober", below my means.

pushpills 03-23-2004 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Or are you all Flash No Cash ?
http://money.msn.ca/articles/plannin...ng/P375709.asp
Just to get you started:2 cents:


what's the point of a mil if you live like a 50k a year shmoe?


money is for reinvesting AND for living well.

KC 03-23-2004 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills



what's the point of a mil if you live like a 50k a year shmoe?


money is for reinvesting AND for living well.

That's the same thing the 70 year old dude that Supersized my Happy Meal yesterday said!

flashfire 03-23-2004 05:31 AM

interesting....I'm already a cheap-ass so its only a matter of time till I'm a millionare

Plan9 03-23-2004 05:37 AM

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The authors say that the typical wealthy individual is a businessman who has lived in the same town for all of his adult life, and owns a small factory, a chain of stores or a service company. He lives next door to people with a fraction of his wealth. Their survey indicated that while the paycheck to paycheck crowd drives new cars, most millionaires don?t. They?re not wearing expensive clothes and watches and their houses are relatively modest compared to their financial status.
Sounds like an exact description of my father. Sure, he's a millionare now, but as I always tell him -- you have the weigh the value of enjoying your money while you're young, versus the amount you choose to save and feel secure later on. What good is a million bucks when you're 50; and missed out on the best years of your life?

Maybe Im just young and shortsighted, but thats my philosophy...

:2 cents:

KRL 03-23-2004 05:37 AM

I've tried several lifestyles and have come to the conclusion I'm happiest when I keep things simple.

radical 03-23-2004 05:39 AM

Good way KRL, keep life simple then you have no hassles

KraZ 03-23-2004 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
In other words: the best way to gather loads of money is not to enjoy it. Great advice indeed.
I hate journalists - they have no clue really... especially the ones who work for MSN

theking 03-23-2004 06:39 AM

I have several school friends that are self made millionaires and live below their means...just as I do.

Not a single one of them has a college degree...and all of them came from lower middle class families. All of them were/are working class.

One taught school for a number of years and worked part time as a carpenter...and during the school summer vacation. Between teaching...working part time...living frugally...he had disposable money and invested it into fixer uppers and eventually obtained a contractors license...quit teaching and made millions in buying and selling fixer uppers as well as building new homes.

Another went to work for PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) not very long after graduating from High School. PG&E paid well enough that by living frugally he too had disposable money and he too began investing in fixer uppers (could barely drive a nail) when he started but he too is now a multiple millionaire. He was a millionare long before he retired from PG&E but continued to work for PG&E.

I won't tell each of their stories but they all have one thing in common. If you knew them you would never suspect that they are millionaires by their life style. They do not think that they are sacrificing anything because they live as they choose to live and thoroughly enjoy their families and their lives.

I too made my bones in Real Estate and began investing about two years into my Army career (which was ended after 12 years) and continued to do so until I recently sold all of my holdings and now have everything in mutual funds.

I too have a friend that is a doctor (he spent 20 years in the Navy and served most of those years with the Marines as a medic). His current income is something over $300,000 annually but if he got sick for a couple of months he would probably lose every thing he has because he lives like he earns $500,000 per year...and has been in bankruptcy before.

theking 03-23-2004 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hova
Whats the use being a millionaire if you dont spend it??? Just to tell everybody you are a millionaire??

I feel weird with my spendnig habits now, but I rather have soem fun then having a couple of million in the bank

You will probably never be a millionaire.

theking 03-23-2004 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plan9


Sounds like an exact description of my father. Sure, he's a millionare now, but as I always tell him -- you have the weigh the value of enjoying your money while you're young, versus the amount you choose to save and feel secure later on. What good is a million bucks when you're 50; and missed out on the best years of your life?

Maybe Im just young and shortsighted, but thats my philosophy...

:2 cents:

That philosophy will undoubtedly prevent you from becoming a millionaire...and when you are 50...you will regret your philosophy.

The best way to enjoy money is to have it...it buys security and security represents a form of freedom.

titmowse 03-23-2004 06:54 AM

my brother is like folks described in the article. you'd never know how wealthy he is by looking at him or his house. he spends money on the things that matter to him though. he loves good food, tips well and has traveled the world ten times over.

Lykos 03-23-2004 07:08 AM

Nice:thumbsup

Napolean 03-23-2004 07:14 AM

millionaires wont tip a pizza guy worth a shit.. fuck em :321GFY

cept for the ones who do.. a small minority

theking 03-23-2004 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
thats definitely a good book, and while i agree with the authors almost 100%, its interesting to note #7:

"7. They chose the right occupations."

that kindof negates a lot of everything else the book says. of course if you choose the right occupation you can become a millionaire. it doesnt matter how you live your life, how frugal you are or how flashy you are, etc... its a lot easier to become a millionaire as a doctor than it is as a teacher, for example.

i think most of the time, those who consciously chose an occupation because of its wealth generating potential are more likely to become wealthy. no one goes into teaching with the aim of living frugal and retiring a millionaire. they go into teaching because they love teaching.

just my :2 cents: and observations

"The millionaires in this book were not born wealthy, nor do most of them have high-level, exotic jobs."

hova 03-23-2004 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


You will probably never be a millionaire.

And you are? Because I like to spend my money I will never be a millionaire?? I would rather own shit that is worth a million then own a million on my bank.

scrooge??
http://www.gate-theatre.ie/graphics/scrooge.jpg

quiet 03-23-2004 07:20 AM

one thing you have to remember, most millionaires in N.A. will get there through the means outlined in that article (to some extent).

i'm guessing many/most in this industry will get there via other routes. what i mean is, i don't think you can necessarily extrapolate our group, to that of the majority of North Americans.

theking 03-23-2004 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hova


And you are? Because I like to spend my money I will never be a millionaire?? I would rather own shit that is worth a million then own a million on my bank.

scrooge??
http://www.gate-theatre.ie/graphics/scrooge.jpg

In anwser to your question...I will put it this way...I will not spend what I have in my lifetime...not because I couldn't but because I won't.


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