(Biz thread) For the next HOUR I will answer your questions on:
 

Upselling.
Best tips, ways to increase ratios, best converting pages to send traffic to and more.

This goes for: Dating, Pills (herbal and generic), Sex Toys

Ask away. I will give you as detailed and honest of an answer as possible. Secrets exposed here people- this is a BIZ thread.

Scared to try upselling? Tell me why- I'll see what I can do for you to help show you the light.

Let's go!

how can i buy traffic and send it to an AVS?

Why do my balls itch so much?

Seriously though, what would be the best product to upsell from an amateur paysite?

Do you want to buy my used fleshlight?

You're teabagging too much. Lay off your girl for a bit- send her over to me.

Brad, please help me, my account rep keeps changing companies faster then I can change links, how do I maintain a quality upsell ratio with so much time spent changing links and signing up to new programs? :winkwink:

Brad is my hero :thumbsup

Best way to do it is to use:

BradLinks 1.1
This is a new tool I have developed to rotate your links to the new company I am with for the week.

Best methods for selling to paysite/member traffic?

Cheers bro :glugglug

I got some Paysites ( Pantyhose & Gangbang )

I think i got a lot of members, the upsells for the dating, sex toys, dvds goes well.

The only thing not working or atleast it's harder to convert are the penis pills.

Does every paysite member thinks his penis is big enough cuz he paid for porn ?

Help me out, give me some advice :thumbsup

NO bias here at all- but Dating. You've got 2 demographics for amateur. Young male, old male. The young male is horny as shit and probably wants to get laid. Send him to an adult personals.

The old guy? Lonely, and horny. Try sending him to the adult personals too.
Pretty easy to work with.

You can always try a male Sex Toy as well.

I have a site ive been messing with for a few months, Iwantfreexxx.com, as an amateur builder i was surprised when I actually started getting small checks. The traffic I was using was coming from google adwords and were converting about 1:400.

Question is, what is the best type of traffic for a site which obviously attempts to convert from the "free scheme".

Okay, honestly this depends on the sponsor you are using too. Are the sites converting? If not it may be time to switch a sponsor.

But first before you do that I suggest doing the following:

Change how you are linking to the site. If you are using text, change it to a banner.
If it is a banner, swap to text. If you have tried both- do an EXIT once they leave the members area.

Be blunt with them: "Want to jerk off with a bigger dick and have MORE sexual orgasms?"
Remember they are beating off. They really don't want to buy pills. But after they finish the jerking hit them then- when they are thinking like a woman. :)

If you like, I can take a look inside your site and give you some specific advice. No worries. Anything for Reak :)

I am assuming you are talking about inside the members area and not during the tour.

Inside a members area is the PERFECT place to sell them on a product. You know they have a credit card.

Try to be as personal as you can with the members. They are picky and won't chuck away their money. But they respect a nice suggestions.

Try:
"Spankinghoes.com recommends AmatuerMatch.com to find a woman
- Get laid! Talk to real women and organize times to meet
- Discreet! You don't need to let anyone know personal information"

Etc. You can go on and on. But give them some info on the product. You're going to get LESS clicks but they will be a lot more qualified.

As far as other products go try the same approach. Maybe put a pic of one of the models holding a dildo, and say "This girl uses this dildo, it is amazing- get it for your wife.."

For pills- see the last reply :)

Why do I keep getting all this Dating Gold spam in my inbox?

That's some kickass advice.

Allthough i dont like the idea of putting a Exit on my sites.

We're using a Text link now at a Menu. Like '' Buy SexToys , DVD Shop '' and so on

This works well for the sex shops, dvd's, dating. But not for the Penis Pills.

I'll hit you up right now on ICQ.

I STRESS:

If you own a Paysite and have access to members email addresses... USE THEM!
Send them a weekly email saying what is new. Even if nothing is new tell them to come back. They will see the ads. Not to mention remind those goofs who forgot about the site.

Put ads in the email to offers and promos- and upsells.

Talk about a perfect way to market to them. If you're not emailing to them... you're throwing money away.

Because we don't like you. Sell more and maybe I'll stop.

Very solid advice. Good stuff :thumbsup

Hey, fair enough. I know a lot of people REFUSE to use popups once inside a members area. They want to keep things clean.
What I would suggest in this case then is just more descriptive text. Qualify them more.

Add points like:

"Penis Enlargement Pills:
- Increase Dick size
- HARDER erections when you're masturbating
- Far more sesual orgasms
- 100% Money Back Guarantee
Click here now for more information
"

Make it a small bordered table at the top of some pages.

Being vague sometimes works... but when it doesn't get in there and really qualify. If they click they are definatly interested.

If your sponsor doesn't convert 1:20 on those types of clicks, try a different company.

And again a top notch advice from you.

We will put this up today/tommorow. And i'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks Brad !

what about using text like

"Hey you small-dicked fuckface! Yeah, YOU! Click here now and buy these fucking pills if you ever plan on banging a chick without paying for it!!"

or

"Yo Pencil-Dick... the ladies on this site would laugh at your tiny cock. Fork over the cash for the pills and save what little dignity you have left"

Thanks for the info! :thumbsup We have tried a personal approach, but not as you have suggested - will give those ideas a try.

On a somewhat related subject, what would be the best methods to get the members to spend the extra $$ for DVDs of the Members-area models (the same girl(s) they joined to see)? Exclusive DVD content has not seemed to be a factor, and most DVD sales are from non-members.

I try not to insult them. If you went to Kmart and the isle boy started telling you that you had a fucked up nose... would you be interested in buying the bread maker he is pushing on you?

Treat them like THEY have the decision power.

The power of suggestion...

how many upsells are too many upsells?

No, but if he said "Hey fuckface, you make shitty bread. Buy this bread maker and you'll be a bread making pimp", I'd buy it.

Hell, I thought you're gonna answer everything
about anything.

BAM easy.

"Why not own these girls on DVD?
- Pay $21.99 and OWN them on DVD! Play them whenever you like. No need to connect to the internet. Just put the disc in and play! Full video on your TV!"

Try that approach.

Play with the text of course- but tell them to buy the DVD for anytime access- and STAY with your site to get the latest new videos and girls and pics.

But tell them to buy the DVD to get the old stuff. :)

If you've crowded your site with so much shit that the surfer can not see what he wanted to do in the first place- you're losing business. Especially on a TGP or LL or AVS.
Keep them as options. Don't overpower the surfer! They will back into a corner and refuse to take out their CC.

No. I honestly don't. Not unless you are innondating them with so many ads they can not get to their content easily. If you get on the "pissing off" stage- yes. People will think it's a crap cookie cutter site and refuse to rebill.
But if you keep things clean and avoid flashing shitty banners you'll do fine.


I think now it is assumed business practice. Honestly that's how some companies generate most of their revenue. Or how they can make up for HUGE PPS when they have bad retention.
On revshare... I think you're safe. But if you're selling a whole lot.. why not give a bit back to them via a nice promotion or payout bonus?
Always a nice way to reward affiliates.
"We're doing well. Here is free money."

LOL. Then you're the ideal consumer for MCI. Give them a call for a bunch of verbal abuse before they try to sell a product to you.

Sorry Torrey I forgot to respond to this one.

Best type of traffic eh? The first thing I would do is keep it North American, and European. Keep quality as much as possible.

Next, setup a hub site that features your product and have some links to other sites. This is "filtering" your traffic. Setup some other links there that can return traffic to you when clicked on.
What you're doing is building the sale-ability of this traffic.

Send it to your site and work on the page to optimize conversions. This is of course for bulk clicked or skim or blind traffic from sponsors.
Your hub should be obvious: "Click Here for HOT teens: FREE in your inbox!"

Line it with other text and such.
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Damn I hope I am not rembling about an unrelated topic. This is what you're asking right?

Great suggestions! Thanks!

Make it 2 hours. I am sleepless tonite.

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Are dating sites any good with mail traffic? Honestly.

How well does sex toy upselling do? I can't understand why the average surfer would be interested in buying sex toys...