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GoodGuy 03-15-2004 09:14 PM

Why all people is against Matrix?
 
WTF? I bought some sets there, and they have high quality pics. But all people are talking like shit about them?

I just want to know what the truth is?
Why are all people against them?

Thanks.

buddyjuf 03-15-2004 09:17 PM

ahhhh if you only knew :1orglaugh

koreanbbque 03-15-2004 09:17 PM

*shrug*

one little bird told me that they sell their email list. don't know if it's true or not.

KBBQ

Rankings 03-15-2004 09:18 PM

this thread is the start of rumors

Oracle Porn 03-15-2004 09:19 PM

there was a company that sold all their webmaster db to acacia (the DB included adresses, phone #, emails etc)

GoodGuy 03-15-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by koreanbbque
*shrug*

one little bird told me that they sell their email list. don't know if it's true or not.

KBBQ


Thats why? :mad:

GoodGuy 03-15-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
they sold all their webmaster db to acacia (the DB included adresses, phone #, emails etc)
When was this? I bought the sets 1 week ago, maybe im out of that list. :)

GrimShawn 03-15-2004 09:21 PM

http://www.gorecore.com/shawn/surprised.gif

Oracle Porn 03-15-2004 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoodGuy


When was this? I bought the sets 1 week ago, maybe im out of that list. :)

please don't change my quote.

SomeCreep 03-16-2004 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoodGuy


When was this? I bought the sets 1 week ago, maybe im out of that list. :)

nope

modelgigtalent 03-16-2004 12:33 AM

One word.....

Acacia

Doctor Dre 03-16-2004 12:40 AM

They sold the email list of customers to acacia . EVERYBODY that bought content off them in a certain period got a letter from Acacia in their mail.

NLB 03-16-2004 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoodGuy
WTF? I bought some sets there, and they have high quality pics. But all people are talking like shit about them?

I just want to know what the truth is?
Why are all people against them?

Thanks.

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.

4Pics 03-16-2004 01:10 AM

what they all said

Jimbo 03-16-2004 01:11 AM

bad matrix bad!

Mr. Marks 03-16-2004 01:21 AM

I don't really know.Maybe the rumors are true.

NLB 03-16-2004 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jimbo
bad matrix bad!
Why do you have our images on your site?

pimplink 03-16-2004 01:24 AM

maybe the rumor is true!!!

NLB 03-16-2004 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
maybe the rumor is true!!!
may·be ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(mb)
adv.
1. An uncertainty: There are so many maybes involved in playing the stock market.
2. An uncertain reply: It's better to receive a fast and honest no than a drawn-out maybe.

Trixxxy 03-16-2004 01:59 AM

I love to have my ass rammed

Mr.Fiction 03-16-2004 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix.

I wasn't going to comment on this anymore, but you seem to want to make an issue out of it.

Your comment above is not the truth.

Regardless of whether you sold your list or whether it was stolen or whatever heppened, you are not telling the truth about it only being people who have something to gain who think you did it.

Many of your customers believe you sold them out. Do a search on GFY. Do you think every person who posted about it was out to get you?

If you continue to attack your own customers, good luck with your business.

=^..^= 03-16-2004 03:54 AM

Geez a lot has happened in the past 6 months
Im glad I came back!
so much drama :thumbsup

Paul Markham 03-16-2004 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.

I emailed all my the people on my list to see who had been approached by Acacia. Too many came back with the story that the information Acacia had used could only have come from Matrix as it was coded in a non obvious way. Many of these people are not frequenters of the boards.

So it's not proof but just an indication or where the list came from.

One thing is sure though, you have always got the chance that a licensee will sell out your information to Acacia. These people signed up purely on a business decision based on their own good and not that of the industry or others in it. So who can guaranty they did and will not ever give up their mailing list.

Acacia were licensing for 2% of the gross turn over, well let's say someone was offered 1% or only 2% of the Video turn over, would that be worth giving up your mailing list? Remebering it's all about business, a purely business decision. Morals and ethics do not enter into the equasion, only the bottom line.

What you can say is your information is safer with the people who are fighting than those who signed.

NLB
You will argue this, but you have only to show us proof or us to all say sorry.

NLB 03-16-2004 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


I wasn't going to comment on this anymore, but you seem to want to make an issue out of it.

Your comment above is not the truth.

Regardless of whether you sold your list or whether it was stolen or whatever heppened, you are not telling the truth about it only being people who have something to gain who think you did it.

Many of your customers believe you sold them out. Do a search on GFY. Do you think every person who posted about it was out to get you?

If you continue to attack your own customers, good luck with your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the part "it seems". "Seems" is defined as: To appear to one's own opinion or mind.
My opinion is not a truth, it is an OPINION, and also not a lie.
Perhaps you should look up "perpetuating", which is defined as: To prolong the existence of; cause to be remembered. Therefore, the comment was not implying everyone is out to get Matrix, it is only that people prolonging the falsehood probably have another agenda. Once again, this is an OPINION, and therefore cannot be labeled as a "lie".
We have faithfully served the content industry, and have never sold out our customers. It's a shame that instead of competing fairly, this rumor has been used as propogada in an attempt to mar our reputation.
You know who I am, and it's easy to make a post like this, and hide behind an anonymous user name.
Fiction is defined as:
1.
a. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
b. The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.
2. A lie.
3.
a. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
b. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.
4. Law. Something untrue that is intentionally represented as true by the narrator.

NLB 03-16-2004 04:36 AM

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NLB 03-16-2004 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I emailed all my the people on my list to see who had been approached by Acacia. Too many came back with the story that the information Acacia had used could only have come from Matrix as it was coded in a non obvious way. Many of these people are not frequenters of the boards.

So it's not proof but just an indication or where the list came from.

One thing is sure though, you have always got the chance that a licensee will sell out your information to Acacia. These people signed up purely on a business decision based on their own good and not that of the industry or others in it. So who can guaranty they did and will not ever give up their mailing list.

Acacia were licensing for 2% of the gross turn over, well let's say someone was offered 1% or only 2% of the Video turn over, would that be worth giving up your mailing list? Remebering it's all about business, a purely business decision. Morals and ethics do not enter into the equasion, only the bottom line.

What you can say is your information is safer with the people who are fighting than those who signed.

NLB
You will argue this, but you have only to show us proof or us to all say sorry.

When the Acacia lawsuits started, we contributed $25,000 to the defense group. How much have you contributed?
Yet again, the point has been proven: Here is yet another content provider perpetuating this falsehood in order to damage the Matrix reputation, and improve their content sales. We are confident that the webmasters on this board are intelligent enough to see through this obvious ploy and deception.

Paul Markham 03-16-2004 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

When the Acacia lawsuits started, we contributed $25,000 to the defense group. How much have you contributed?
Yet again, the point has been proven: Here is yet another content provider perpetuating this falsehood in order to damage the Matrix reputation, and improve their content sales. We are confident that the webmasters on this board are intelligent enough to see through this obvious ploy and deception.

And how much did you contribute tio the attack fund?

It's license money that fuels Acacia.

We do not even shoot the kind of content matrix shoot so we are not competitiors.

Webmasters can make their own decisions on who to trust with their information.

NLB 03-16-2004 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
And how much did you contribute tio the attack fund?

It's license money that fuels Acacia.

We do not even shoot the kind of content matrix shoot so we are not competitiors.

Webmasters can make their own decisions on who to trust with their information.

Instead of trying to spin the question to your benefit, perhaps you should just answer it...
Simple question: How much did YOU contribute to the defense group?

As far as being a competitor, although we are known for our high quality glamour content, we also distribute amatuer style photography with no-name amatuer models. You DO have something to gain by making these comments.

evildick 03-16-2004 06:45 AM

Where's lil2rich4u2 at? He's the one that had screenshots of a mispelling of his name that he used to log in to your site to poke around. The same mispelling that he received on his Acacia packet. He's not a content producer.

GoodGuy 03-16-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.

Look, I believe you. Why? Because you have the best content in the business. I know people talking shit about matrix and having like 100 sets on their sites. I think they are saying: "Dont buy on matrix" to have no competition.

GoodGuy 03-16-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Why do you have our images on your site?


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oracle Porn 03-16-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Why do you have our images on your site?

0wn3d like a little bitch!

attention_whore 03-16-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.


Ha ha ha, whatever. Then your database needs to be more secure then. I find it particularly funny that 1. I don't run any movie sites but still recieved the letter. 2. The way the address and name was printed on the envelope/letter from acacia was EXACTLY the way it was when I signed up to matrix content (certain misspellings). I have nothing to gain by putting matrix down, and have never actually bought content from matrix.
Awfully BIG coincedence I guess.:1orglaugh

Babaganoosh 03-16-2004 02:22 PM

Matrix is bullshit. Anyone who buys content from these lying motherfuckers should have their head examined.

When I gave my info to Matrix, I was a bit intoxicated and made a slight mistake on my mailing address. This address was the same one that Acacia sent the letter to. There is absolutely no doubt at all where that information came from. If anyone ends up getting taken to court for libel, I will be more than happy to provide the proof to the defendant.

Matrix, cut the shit. Admit it and save your ass.

doornx 03-16-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn


0wn3d like a little bitch!

LOL..i like matrix because they have average prices hq content...not that bad lighted indoor only kind of stuff

rumors or not i like what i see so fuck it

rumor is that kobe raped a girl..he's still playing..that MJ molest little boys..they still air his songs..so WTF..i still buy their content

DamageX 03-16-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoodGuy
Look, I believe you. Why? Because you have the best content in the business. I know people talking shit about matrix and having like 100 sets on their sites. I think they are saying: "Dont buy on matrix" to have no competition.
Wow, you really ARE stupid!

SleazyDream 03-16-2004 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.


Norman's right - matrix never SOLD their client list to acacia, he GAVE IT TO THEM - no cost.

why - cause Norman's a gutless total fucking idiot that doesn't give a shit about his clients and doesn't deserve to continue in this business.

GoodGuy 03-16-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DamageX


Wow, you really ARE stupid!

You are using matrix content on your sites too!!!

crockett 03-16-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NLB

Badmouthing Matrix came from the rumour about our webmaster list being given to Acacia. Matrix has never sold our list to anyone. These rumours stem from people who cannot compete fairly, and chose to badmouth as their marketing campaigns. It seems that the only people perpetuating these rumours are people who have something to gain by putting down Matrix. We contribute to the industry by keeping our content valuable, and we're sure that your members notice the difference between Matrix Content and others.

I stopped bad mouthing you guys awhile back. But it's pretty safe to say, as I told you when I called your office, that my info came from your lists. You guys claimed no one provided proof which is BS.. my proof is as good as it gets and then you try to blame the registar (which was registryfly) It's funny how I have about 80 domains with them and the only one Acacia ever got their hands on was to domain I used at your site. A crappy .net name with no site on it.

It's funny with all of my domains Acacia had to pick from , the one their professional research team found was listed only at your site.. The real pisser of the deal is I never even bought anything from you.. I only signed up so I could view your content.. Fuck talk about getting owned.

Hey I'll tell everyone you guys are cool if you hook me up with a bunch of free content.. hell I'll even hook you up with a bunch of my domain names so Acacia can finally find them.. :1orglaugh

DamageX 03-16-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoodGuy
You are using matrix content on your sites too!!!
First, I don't buy content, I don't use content.

Second, if you're trying to get in a battle of wits with me, you should first consider a brain transplant. Try looking for something bigger than the pea that currently serves as your brain.

Third, try badmouthing me one more time, falsely accusing me of spam or whatever else that may cross your shit-for-brains mind, and I will piss all over your face in public, making you the laughing stock of the whole adult webmaster community. You've been warned.


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