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Xenophage 02-14-2004 03:00 PM

Justice Dept. moves to crack down on pornography
 
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Xenophage 02-14-2004 03:09 PM

In a survey two years ago, Adult Video News, a trade publication based in Chatsworth, Calif., identified Taylor as one of the top ?enemies? of the industry. The story was titled: ?These Are the Folks Who Want to Put You Out of Business.?

Taylor, who in recent years has headed a conservative advocacy group fighting for tougher regulation of the Internet, has been given the title of ?senior counsel? within the criminal division at Justice, with a focus principally on federal adult obscenity issues.




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m00d 02-14-2004 03:12 PM

Another sleepless night for me..

PhotoGreggXXX 02-14-2004 03:13 PM

interesting, but I'm sure they're going after the big name players like Hustler, etc.

The department has made other moves recently to shore up its anti-porn effort, including assigning for the first time in years a team of FBI agents to focus exclusively on adult-obscenity cases. In his fiscal 2005 budget proposal released this month, President Bush sought increased spending to fight obscenity; it was one of the few spending increases -- besides for anti-terrorist efforts -- in the otherwise austere proposal.

greentea 02-14-2004 03:16 PM

Aschroft started with the 420 community and now his porn crusade has begun. This is not going to be fun, sooner we can get bush and co out of office the better we all will be!!!

stocktrader23 02-14-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Aschroft started with the 420 community and now his porn crusade has begun. This is not going to be fun, sooner we can get bush and co out of office the better we all will be!!!
Maybe they'll go after 12clicks first. :1orglaugh

doober 02-14-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Maybe they'll go after 12clicks first. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wimpy 02-14-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Taylor, who in recent years has headed a conservative advocacy group fighting for tougher regulation of the Internet, has been given the title of ?senior counsel? within the criminal division at Justice, with a focus principally on federal adult obscenity issues.

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Everyone seems so scared of this guy, but I've read some articles he's written and he seems pretty reasonable. He says that he won't bring cases against nudity, bj, even basic fucking sites, if I recall correctly, because he thinks he'd never get a conviction. Wise man, Taylor.

OTOH, if you have anything very "hard and kinky" then yes, be worried. He's out for you, and you can bet it will happen soon, before the election.

JFK 02-14-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wimpy


Everyone seems so scared of this guy, but I've read some articles he's written and he seems pretty reasonable. He says that he won't bring cases against nudity, bj, even basic fucking sites, if I recall correctly, because he thinks he'd never get a conviction. Wise man, Taylor.

OTOH, if you have anything very "hard and kinky" then yes, be worried. He's out for you, and you can bet it will happen soon, before the election.

Its just a Sleazy (no pun intended ) election ploy:2 cents:

neewwman 02-14-2004 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wimpy


Everyone seems so scared of this guy, but I've read some articles he's written and he seems pretty reasonable. He says that he won't bring cases against nudity, bj, even basic fucking sites, if I recall correctly, because he thinks he'd never get a conviction. Wise man, Taylor.


To the contrary, he's an absolute fanatic. I saw him at a symposium about "Pornography and the Law" at Pepperdine University. He was bragging that when he was a prosecutor he used to bring cases -- and get convictions -- against plain vanilla hard core sites.

I'm thinking about joining the Free Speech Coalition -- we need someone on our side here.

<IMX> 02-14-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Maybe they'll go after 12clicks first. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

synergysex 02-14-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
interesting, but I'm sure they're going after the big name players like Hustler, etc.
Maybe. But if I was in thier shoes, I'd do exactly the opposite.

I would go after the mom and pop shops, small content producers and small advertising programs (and in the grand scheme of things, all of these advertising programs are small fries except for a few titans) - people that can't afford to mount a defense against the government or would eventually be worn down and give up. Use these small frys to get the momentium going before going after the top dogs.

Religious nuts are one of the most dangerious threats to freedom of speech. And I dont give a shit what anyone says or thinks to the contrary - pornography IS art and art is protected by the first amendment.

lakeview 02-14-2004 09:00 PM

I still don't understand who they're going after.
anyone who runs a hardcore site? producers of content?
or only simulated violent sex (as mentioned in that article)?

IKE 02-14-2004 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Maybe they'll go after 12clicks first. :1orglaugh



HAHAHAHAHA

crockett 02-14-2004 09:03 PM

This is the shit that always cracks me up

Officials said the appointment of Bruce A. Taylor, who worked in the department during the heyday of its anti-porn efforts in the late 1980s and early ?90s, shows that Justice is serious about cracking down on porn after what critics called lax enforcement by the Clinton administration

They freeking blame it all on Clinton..lol well WTF has good ole gerorgy bushwhipped been doing for the last 4 years, if all this porn was so bad?

goBigtime 02-14-2004 09:04 PM

You guys will think Bush's first 4 years will have been tame by comparison.


Imagine that he's been 'playing it safe' so far so he could get re-elected.

:helpme

goBigtime 02-14-2004 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lakeview
I still don't understand who they're going after
http://www.jpgsworld.com/gfy/ashcover.gif


Everyone.

cluck 02-14-2004 09:11 PM

Puritans started this country, puritans will cause it's end.

Unless the puritans are whiped out in a bloody class war :glugglug

synergysex 02-14-2004 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
This is the shit that always cracks me up

Officials said the appointment of Bruce A. Taylor, who worked in the department during the heyday of its anti-porn efforts in the late 1980s and early ?90s, shows that Justice is serious about cracking down on porn after what critics called lax enforcement by the Clinton administration

They freeking blame it all on Clinton..lol well WTF has good ole gerorgy bushwhipped been doing for the last 4 years, if all this porn was so bad?

The corporate media is - for the most part - owned by Republicans, which is why Bush - who is Hitler and Stalin merged into one compared to Clinton - has for the most part let the adminstration off the hook on everything. Of course, this isnt suprising because all media companies are quite financially solvent and the Republican party is the rich people's (and wanna be rich people's) party.

pornguy 02-14-2004 09:17 PM

I think that the best way to handel these guys that are going to clean the internet of pron is to beat them at their own game...

You can bet your white or brown ass that they are as guilty of some of the things they charge people with... Do you believe that these asshole have never hired a hooker?? Do you believe that they have never gone into a strip club and paid the dancers?? Do you think that they have never joined as adult website? If you do then you are a fool...


If you expose them, then you will ruin them. You will destroy the holier than thou attitude that they have. It just comes down to finding the proof. And I am sure that the proof is out there somewhere. The media seems to find amazing things against people running for office. I am sure that some of these guys that are against the porn industry have hired hookers, bought magazines to jerk off to and things that we dont want to talk about.

Hell I read the other day that the catholic church has had 1500 priests charged with sexual abuse in on way or anoother since like 1930 something. So what do you think that the politicians are doing. They are fucking everything that moves. Destroy their credibility and you destroy them in any court.

Just my :2 cents: and now I will go fuck myself!

cluck 02-14-2004 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
I think that the best way to handel these guys that are going to clean the internet of pron is to beat them at their own game...

You can bet your white or brown ass that they are as guilty of some of the things they charge people with... Do you believe that these asshole have never hired a hooker?? Do you believe that they have never gone into a strip club and paid the dancers?? Do you think that they have never joined as adult website? If you do then you are a fool...


If you expose them, then you will ruin them. You will destroy the holier than thou attitude that they have. It just comes down to finding the proof. And I am sure that the proof is out there somewhere. The media seems to find amazing things against people running for office. I am sure that some of these guys that are against the porn industry have hired hookers, bought magazines to jerk off to and things that we dont want to talk about.

Hell I read the other day that the catholic church has had 1500 priests charged with sexual abuse in on way or anoother since like 1930 something. So what do you think that the politicians are doing. They are fucking everything that moves. Destroy their credibility and you destroy them in any court.

Just my :2 cents: and now I will go fuck myself!

Who says we take donations and pool the money to hire a damn good private investigator?

cluck 02-14-2004 09:26 PM

Another quote from our buddy:

"That's why we could say safely, without blaspheming or defaming anybody, that just about everything on the Internet and almost everything in the video stores and everything in the adult bookstores is still prosecutable -- illegal obscenity."

pornguy 02-14-2004 09:28 PM

I could come up with a few bucks for that!

lakeview 02-14-2004 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


http://www.jpgsworld.com/gfy/ashcover.gif
Everyone.

I wonder if he threw a blanket over his tv last week when Janet flashed her tit.

illusion 02-14-2004 10:08 PM

People would go crazy if porn was banned.

directfiesta 02-14-2004 10:10 PM

where are the brainwashed right-winger ????

12shits, Loryn-adult, Rooster, Metaman, Galleyseek, and so on...

No later than 2-3 days ago, they stated that porn was more prosecuted under Clinton than under any other administration...

On the other hand, yes, vote blindly for Bush. We will pick up the slack here....

Maximillion 02-14-2004 10:16 PM

Porn mags will never get banned so how can online porn?

goBigtime 02-14-2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lakeview

....last week when Janet flashed her tit.

All part of the plan. :glugglug

IKE 02-14-2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximillion
Porn mags will never get banned so how can online porn?
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This is a retarded post. 10 years ago the mags didn't show insertions now they do. Obscenity is always illegal.

No safeharbors.

Matt_WildCash 02-14-2004 10:47 PM

I just hope they don't start targeting hosting and billing services, and just stick to taking on USA obsenity. Being outside the USA and doing kinky and rough stuff hopefully will still be safe. I'm waiting for the day they make all the extreme sites illiegal.

tony286 02-14-2004 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
where are the brainwashed right-winger ????

12shits, Loryn-adult, Rooster, Metaman, Galleyseek, and so on...

No later than 2-3 days ago, they stated that porn was more prosecuted under Clinton than under any other administration...

On the other hand, yes, vote blindly for Bush. We will pick up the slack here....

They dont have a clue ,they went after no one during clinton thats why porn exploded. Republicans love going after porn , remember the Meese commision that was during the time when Ronnie was pres. People were put in jail, lives were ruined.

tony286 02-14-2004 11:02 PM

But on the other hand ,alot of people in our industry have been very irresponsible. Pushing the edge further and further to make a few bucks. You would be shocked the number of people without any 2257 and use the us mail to send porn. We all know of sites that push it too far ,the processors process them and we say nothing because people say its none of our business but thats not true. Say they decide based on the new mastercard thing they arent buying from you, they are buying from your processor . The processor gets busted for some fucked up site and gets closed . Anybody who processes with that processor is now fucked, at that point is it ok to have opinion about others business practices? People have been saying we have to police our selves no one cared and now the hammer will come down.

I am voting democrat not because I think they are better , they all suck . I am voting democrat to get a new attorney general.

Paul Markham 02-14-2004 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by illusion
People would go crazy if porn was banned.
At last someone with more than two working brain cells says something.

Politicians have been "Gunning for porn" for decades, have they stopped it or reduced it? Problem here is very few here were in porn prior to Bush and a miniscule amount prior to Clinton.

I was producing porn when Regan was in office. And still in it.

Bush is looking for votes and has little to show as a reason for the masses to re-elect him. So he's on another "Crusade", but can you imagine the reaction from the millions of consumers of porn if it disappeared? Few will admit to buying it, but when it comes to election time it will only take 2-3% to swing and he's out. He's already got the ultra conservative vote, if the anti porn campaign worked he would lose votes.

If you're shooting/publishing Sweet or Max Hardcore material be worried, if it's normal porn, get on with your work or get out of the business.

Paul Markham 02-14-2004 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IKE
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This is a retarded post. 10 years ago the mags didn't show insertions now they do. Obscenity is always illegal.

No safeharbors.

This is a retard post. Where are the prosecutions for all the insertion pics?

mardigras 02-14-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lakeview
I still don't understand who they're going after.
anyone who runs a hardcore site? producers of content?
or only simulated violent sex (as mentioned in that article)?

Probably some of all of the above...

mardigras 02-14-2004 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck


Who says we take donations and pool the money to hire a damn good private investigator?

Hire Larry Flynt's investigator:Graucho

Paul Markham 02-14-2004 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
But on the other hand ,alot of people in our industry have been very irresponsible. Pushing the edge further and further to make a few bucks. You would be shocked the number of people without any 2257 and use the us mail to send porn. We all know of sites that push it too far ,the processors process them and we say nothing because people say its none of our business but thats not true. Say they decide based on the new mastercard thing they arent buying from you, they are buying from your processor . The processor gets busted for some fucked up site and gets closed . Anybody who processes with that processor is now fucked, at that point is it ok to have opinion about others business practices? People have been saying we have to police our selves no one cared and now the hammer will come down.

I am voting democrat not because I think they are better , they all suck . I am voting democrat to get a new attorney general.

Good point, the envelope pushers are trouble and are goint to give Bush a reason to campaign the rest of us are bad.

I could not understand why everyone was wishing Steve Sweet success in his trial, the guy has put us in the limelight and people against porn now present us as doing the same stuff.

JackRoyal 02-14-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wimpy


Everyone seems so scared of this guy, but I've read some articles he's written and he seems pretty reasonable. He says that he won't bring cases against nudity, bj, even basic fucking sites, if I recall correctly, because he thinks he'd never get a conviction. Wise man, Taylor.

OTOH, if you have anything very "hard and kinky" then yes, be worried. He's out for you, and you can bet it will happen soon, before the election.

The venerable Taylor shares some of his wisedom with the House Telecommunications committee:

"...I support efforts to create a children?s domain on the Web where the rules are written for their protection and the adults who build and supply that domain are bound by those rules. I adamantly oppose the creation of a ?dot porn? or ?dot sex? domain, because I don?t think we should elevate the pornography syndicates to a seat at the World Wide Web consortium or legitimize their ill-gotten gains and because I don?t trust them to stay on their own vice domain and get off the cash-cow of the dot com domain. They?ll take the red-light district and fill it with porn and prostitution, but they?ll never leave our children and families alone in the rest of cyberspace anymore than they do today. "

Hear that? Syndicates, ill-gotten gains, harassing children and families? Sounds reasonable to me.

I've always wondered why they think online pornographers target children. Children do not have credit cards. Do they think that the models work pro-bono and just like the attention?

davidd 02-14-2004 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by synergysex


The corporate media is - for the most part - owned by Republicans, which is why Bush - who is Hitler and Stalin merged into one compared to Clinton - has for the most part let the adminstration off the hook on everything. Of course, this isnt suprising because all media companies are quite financially solvent and the Republican party is the rich people's (and wanna be rich people's) party.

Put down the lighter.

Now put down the crack pipe.

Do you honestly, 100%, believe that the media is controlled by the Republicans? The media is and has been ruled by some of the most liberal whackos this side of France.

It is only until recently that the Republicans, or more to the point, NON-socialists have had a venue.

-dd

xxxplicit 02-14-2004 11:40 PM

man fuck that old taylor nigga....


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