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MixPhoto 01-28-2004 03:27 AM

Price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)?!
 
Hello!
Tell me please normal price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)...
May be my price very low?

My new price:

Solo Girl - 100 euro for 100 images or 1 movie (30 min)

Min volume - 3 sets or 3 movies with 1 model

Lykos 01-28-2004 03:46 AM

Cheap?
Nah....i am selling 3 sets of pics exclusive custom for 300$....5 sets for 450$....8 sets for 700$....
And my prices are in dollars not euros:)
:thumbsup

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lykos
Cheap?
Nah....i am selling 3 sets of pics exclusive custom for 300$....5 sets for 450$....8 sets for 700$....
And my prices are in dollars not euros:)
:thumbsup

Your price for movies?

Paul Markham 01-28-2004 04:14 AM

For the quality you two shoot I would say you are both too expensive.

It's not down to price, it's down to quality. :1orglaugh

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
For the quality you two shoot I would say you are both too expensive.

It's not down to price, it's down to quality. :1orglaugh

Show me please content your produce... :Graucho

FireFoz 01-28-2004 04:36 AM

sounds cheap to me
but like said already, quality matters though

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FireFoz
sounds cheap to me
but like said already, quality matters though

Tell me please normal price for pics such a quality...

http://www.mixphoto.com/images/IMG_0038.jpg

http://www.mixphoto.com/images/IMG_0133.jpg

http://www.mixphoto.com/images/IMG_0122.jpg

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 06:20 AM

I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients :)

Joesho 01-28-2004 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MixPhoto
I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients :)


Charly is just an Asshole, but you will get used to it, nobody listen's to that hypocritical old fuck anyway....:winkwink:

Paul Markham 01-28-2004 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho


Charly is just an Asshole, but you will get used to it, nobody listen's to that hypocritical old fuck anyway....:winkwink:

Agreed, but he's the arsehole who shot these.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/sets/0835/thumb_02.jpg

And.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/sets/1567/thumb_02.jpg

And.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/sets/1568/thumb_02.jpg

And when surfers click on a site looking for teens they dont give a shit about how much the shooter kissed your arse to sell them.

Maybe it's because of this that I can afford to be "hypocritical old fuck"

I said what I said because it's true. If they can't stand the heat they should not spam with stupid threads like this. Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see he's asking for answers. I am one of the few to give him one. Srry if it was not what he was looking for.

WankTank 01-28-2004 07:15 AM

MixPhoto, I e-mailed you.
I hope to hear a response soon!

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WankTank
MixPhoto, I e-mailed you.
I hope to hear a response soon!

Huh, still nothing in my mailbox.

VideoJ 01-28-2004 08:08 AM

We charge a lot more then that, but our customers expect video with a story and girls who speak English. If the girl doesn't speak at lease some English, she's of little use to me, no matter how cute.

We're not aiming for quality, which we can shoot, but to fullfil the surfer's fantasy. The best videos come with a story, some dialog and even a plot.

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Agreed, but he's the arsehole who shot these.


And when surfers click on a site looking for teens they dont give a shit about how much the shooter kissed your arse to sell them.

Maybe it's because of this that I can afford to be "hypocritical old fuck"

I said what I said because it's true. If they can't stand the heat they should not spam with stupid threads like this. Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see he's asking for answers. I am one of the few to give him one. Srry if it was not what he was looking for.


Anyway if you will reread the original post you will see what it is about prices, not shooting techniques, quality and stuff.

Thanks also for helping us to be sure in quality of that we produce.

Bruno 01-28-2004 08:28 AM

Ouch... calm down Paul... :winkwink:

Lykos 01-28-2004 08:33 AM

Wll Charly....don't have any comments to say about u...
U r only bashing other content providers...
I respect your work much but u like a person..-never!
But how ever work is important....this way u r telliong how only u know something u will never get people to love u...and btw i am, still only 19 years old...what do u think what kind of quallity will i produce after 20-30 years of work?Think about that...I am very sorry when i hear stuff like that from anyone but that is what u want to say....your right to say anything,cheers....Just my :2 cents:

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoJ
We charge a lot more then that, but our customers expect video with a story and girls who speak English. If the girl doesn't speak at lease some English, she's of little use to me, no matter how cute.

We're not aiming for quality, which we can shoot, but to fullfil the surfer's fantasy. The best videos come with a story, some dialog and even a plot.

For those models which cannot speak english we have professional actors, who anyway will play better even than a pro model. Well, it's our approach to a language problem. Finally we'are aimed to video. However the quality of soundtrack will be higher in this case, than in soundtrak, which recorded during the shooting.

After all, you are very lucky, if you have a lot of native english speaking models =) And also the most part of jerks are native english speakers also. So you should be happy about it, dude =)

Alex Prototype 01-28-2004 09:04 AM

spam me custom pornstars content

Alex Prototype 01-28-2004 09:12 AM

MixPhoto, kin' mne svoi ICQ na email please

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MixPhoto


Show me please content your produce... :Graucho

What you produce and what he produces, you wouldn't be fit to lick his boots :P charly may have a big mouth, but he shoots magazine-quality stuff. Yours I could shoot with $50, a point and shoot and a hooker in a back room :P

CHMOD 01-28-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MixPhoto
I'm quite confused of your reaction. In my humble opinion it's not correct to use such adv. methods. Charly answered in such manner so I even had to look attentively on the content which he selling. There's no descent businessman who will criticize his rival's production in such rude manner.

I think Charlie should ask for pardon from Lykos.

2Lykos. Thank you very much for the information about your discounts. I think now I can make a good offer to my potential clients :)



Paul Markham is so fucking harsh. He really thinks is the best photographer in the world.

Well I 've got news for you Charly, you are just a poor little kid ( In your head ) trying to bash other to feel yourself above them.

It is really sad to see an old man like you behaving like this.

I have got other news for you, Mixphoto is doing excellent quality job for much cheaper than you do.

Sad, isn't it ?

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD




Paul Markham is so fucking harsh. He really thinks is the best photographer in the world.

Well I 've got news for you Charly, you are just a poor little kid ( In your head ) trying to bash other to feel yourself above them.

It is really sad to see an old man like you behaving like this.

I have got other news for you, Mixphoto is doing excellent quality job for much cheaper than you do.

Sad, isn't it ?

Paul's an asshole. Yep.. I've told him that to his face, and he knows what I think. But excuse me if I laugh my ass off when you compare Paul's quality to mixphotos. Sure, Mixphoto's stuff isn't bad, but to even remotely suggest it's of the same or even close to the same quality of what Paul shoots is beyond ridiculous. Paul is an asshole, but he shoots magazine quality pro content. Mixphoto shoots what anyone could shoot with a few girls and a decent camera. Hell, it doesn't even look like he uses lighting.

Get over yourself.

Cirrus 01-28-2004 09:26 AM

:glugglug

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cirrus
:glugglug
And then there's you guys... Damn nice stuff too :) But you also use the right equipment :) How are ya Cirrus? :)

CHMOD 01-28-2004 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Paul's an asshole. Yep.. I've told him that to his face, and he knows what I think. But excuse me if I laugh my ass off when you compare Paul's quality to mixphotos. Sure, Mixphoto's stuff isn't bad, but to even remotely suggest it's of the same or even close to the same quality of what Paul shoots is beyond ridiculous. Paul is an asshole, but he shoots magazine quality pro content. Mixphoto shoots what anyone could shoot with a few girls and a decent camera. Hell, it doesn't even look like he uses lighting.

Get over yourself.



When I compare the content quality he produces and the content quality Mixphoto produces, I reallize that it is not worth to pay Markham the fees is asking for the slight quality difference there is.

If I add Markham's personality above this, I prefer much more doing business with a nice guy like Mixphoto than an asshole like Markham.

Do you understand this ?


Markham is an idiot. Go ahead and lick is ass if you want to, he will still be an idiot.

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD




When I compare the content qualtiy he produces and the content quality Mixphoto produces, I reallize that it is not worth to pay Markham the fees is asking for the slight quality difference there is.

If I add Markham's personality above this, I prefer much more doing business with a nice guy like Mixphoto than an asshole like Markham.

Do you understand this ?


Markham is an idiot. Go ahead and lick is ass if you want to, he will still be an idiot.

Wow, not sure when calling someone an asshole was construed as licking his ass. I guess it's all about what you're willing to pay for quality. Like I said, Paul is an ass, but he DOES shoot nice stuff. That's not "licking his ass", that is FACT. I'm a pro photographer, been published myself numerous times, so I can make a judgement call.

Mixphoto may be cheaper but his quality can't touch Paul's. That is not anything but bare, straight up fact. I wouldn't charge a little as Mixphoto either were custom content my market. Then again, the quality difference would be just as apparent.

As for Mixphoto being a nice guy, I'm sure he is, but he sure as fuck is spammy. I only just got off his "mailing list" myself not too long ago. Damn grateful about that too.

Cirrus 01-28-2004 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


And then there's you guys... Damn nice stuff too :) But you also use the right equipment :) How are ya Cirrus? :)

busy, thanks for asking :)

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex Prototype
MixPhoto, kin' mne svoi ICQ na email please
Kak ya mogu znat tvoy e-mail?
My e-mail: [email protected] , ICQ173128095

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cirrus


busy, thanks for asking :)

I can imagine! So, what are you charging for custom content these days? :)

Paul Markham 01-28-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cirrus
:glugglug
Cirrus started stuck his head down and learnt his trade. All respect to him, he's got great work. :thumbsup

To the knockers.
I do not think I'm the best photographer in the world, I don't even quote my profession as a photographer. I'm a pornographer and these is a difference. I don't bash ALL other content providers, only those who do not learn what can be learnt in a few weeks. Why do I only bash content providers? Because pornography is all I know.

MixPhoto you even put up pictures of a girl with scorn or contempt in her eyes. How can you put up pictures like that? The idea is the guy paying to view thinks she's saying "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF"

LM
Thanks for sticking up for me, but if people think he shoot the same as I do, they are in the wrong business.

Quote:

Hello!
Tell me please normal price for custom shoots (Solo Girl)...
May be my price very low?

My new price:

Solo Girl - 100 euro for 100 images or 1 movie (30 min)

Min volume - 3 sets or 3 movies with 1 model
I told him for what he shoots I thinks is expensive. If he only want to hear "SELL TO ME SELL TO ME SELL TO ME" He should word his spam differently.

Finally when he and Lykos were trying to sell to me,, I told them both to come to me with some girls and watch me work. I WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SHOOT.

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly


I told him for what he shhots I thinks it's expensive. If he only want to hear "SELL TO ME SELL TO ME SELL TO ME" He should word his spam differently.

Finally when he and Lykos were trying to sell to me,, I told them both to come to me with some girls and watch me work. I WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SHOOT.

Well I won't pretend you're not an asshole Paul, but you shoot damn nice content and no amount of attitude problems are going to change that :)

:Graucho

KraZ 01-28-2004 09:50 AM

I'm not going to take sides... apparently, there's a market for MixPhotos and there's a market for Charlie - you don't need to jump at each other's throats.

What about us? The poor souls who are left without a market? We just post georgeous models in vain hope someone will notice us.
</sarcasm>

http://www.nichefetish.com/samples/SDSC06906.jpg

Peace :)

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KraZ
I'm not going to take sides... apparently, there's a market for MixPhotos and there's a market for Charlie - you don't need to jump at each other's throats.

What about us? The poor souls who are left without a market? We just post georgeous models in vain hope someone will notice us.
</sarcasm>

http://www.nichefetish.com/samples/SDSC06906.jpg

Peace :)

Send her over :P

KraZ 01-28-2004 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I WOULD HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SHOOT.
Charly, if you're a man of your word, come down to Sofia and teach my new photographer how to shoot straight. You can shoot our models for less/free. I'm sorry but it makes no sense for me to get on the bus with 10 models and a photographer and come to your place.

Contact me via ICQ (18822023) or email: vpbiz[at]nichefetish.com
for samples and references.

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Wow, not sure when calling someone an asshole was construed as licking his ass. I guess it's all about what you're willing to pay for quality. Like I said, Paul is an ass, but he DOES shoot nice stuff. That's not "licking his ass", that is FACT. I'm a pro photographer, been published myself numerous times, so I can make a judgement call.

Mixphoto may be cheaper but his quality can't touch Paul's. That is not anything but bare, straight up fact. I wouldn't charge a little as Mixphoto either were custom content my market. Then again, the quality difference would be just as apparent.

As for Mixphoto being a nice guy, I'm sure he is, but he sure as fuck is spammy. I only just got off his "mailing list" myself not too long ago. Damn grateful about that too.

Show us proof your words!

By the way I'm personally don't shoot porno, i'm into shooting flowers, ants etc.

If everyone here agree what you words are completely truth, I'd like to send my photographers to you to take some lessons.

Nydahl 01-28-2004 10:06 AM

we shoot solo like this.Btw it was shooted by guy who taught Mr.Markham how to use lighting system when shooting in higher shutter speed mode few years ago.Right Charly?
Yes you are the top photographer but I think you don't need to talk about those guys this way.Mixphoto piss me off all the time spamming this board but Lykos is a good guy
my:2 cents:
http://www.adultczechcontent.com/nydahl/silva1.jpg

MichaelAncher 01-28-2004 10:27 AM

Wow... a pissing contest...nice...been a long time since we realy had something going...I bring popcorn and beers...:drinkup


http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/spam.jpg

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MixPhoto


Show us proof your words!

By the way I'm personally don't shoot porno, i'm into shooting flowers, ants etc.

If everyone here agree what you words are completely truth, I'd like to send my photographers to you to take some lessons.

Heh those who actually know me know.. but if you want some portfolio stuf for example...

http://www.memoriesbytreasure.com/html/scenic.html

Almost every one of those photos is brokered and/or published through various stock photography agencies, and in various books and periodicals.

I don't want to teach your photographers, pal, you can pay for them to take courses, but the simple fact remains that Paul shoots pro quality and you or your people do not. Are you going to deny that? I'm sure Paul would be pleased to list a full portfolio of magazines where his work has been published. How about you? I don't publish my adult work, only my mainstream. I shoot adult though and I sure as hell can tell when something is shot by a professional, an amateur, or even a pro-amateur.

Know where you're at and know your market. AaronM is a great photographer and he shoots a ton of content that a TON of people use (and not at rock bottom prices, either). Yet he's the first to admit he doesn't shoot pro-level stuff. That's not a BAD thing, it's just fact. Why not ask him yourself. As far as I know he has no interest in shooting it either. He doesn't pretend that he does though, nor is he pretentious enough to claim to or be insulted when someone says he DOESN'T shoot magazine level.

It's about the reality of it. You wanted an honest opinion, Paul gave it. You might not agree with him, but if you wanted everything candy-coated, you should have said so in the first post. From my eyes though, all I saw from the first post is that it was a thinly veiled attempt at trumping up business.. That's not a bad thing either, but don't get all prissy when someone calls you on it :P

LadyMischief 01-28-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelAncher
Wow... a pissing contest...nice...been a long time since we realy had something going...I bring popcorn and beers...:drinkup


http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/spam.jpg

YOU are a god among kings, Michael. Your work makes me drool, I love your work, always have, always will, and make absolutely no beef about it.

MixPhoto 01-28-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

I do not think I'm the best photographer in the world, I don't even quote my profession as a photographer. I'm a pornographer and these is a difference. I don't bash ALL other content providers, only those who do not learn what can be learnt in a few weeks. Why do I only bash content providers? Because pornography is all I know.

Taking off those flame and rude words and abuses I understand what it is probably good, what in my company erotic photoes are shooting by photograpgers.

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

MixPhoto you even put up pictures of a girl with scorn or contempt in her eyes. How can you put up pictures like that? The idea is the guy paying to view thinks she's saying "FUCK ME" not "FUCK OFF"

Well, Paul you are an acute man. In the eyes of my moder you have read exactly that i'd like to say to you personally, concerning your last bashes.


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