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Quentin 01-12-2004 08:04 AM

Cyberheat Inc. (TopBucks) Licenses with Acacia
 
See Acacia's press release here: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040112/125149_1.html

As you know, for the past year TopBucks/Cyberheat Inc. has been a major contributor to the fight against the Acacia lawsuit. After careful consideration of all the underlying factors, however, and evaluating the relative risks and costs of continuing to fight, vs. the costs of licensing and paying the corresponding royalties, we have decided that the best decision for the future of our business is to obtain a license from Acacia, and thereby protect ourselves from the potential consequences of coming out on the losing end of the lawsuit. In essence, the decision came down to this; if we continued the fight and lost, we could be subject to paying royalties based on gross subscription revenues dating back several years, with up to triple damages. The impact of paying such an enormous sum would be disastrous, and could potentially put TopBucks out of business, entirely.

We realize that this announcement will come as a tremendous disappointment to many in the industry, and it is with great reticence and regret that we came to this decision. Obviously, we did not simply ?roll over?; TopBucks contributed a significant amount of money to the fight against the lawsuit over the last year, and our decision is based on a risk assessment, and was also made in light of the growing number of other industry leaders who have made the decision to license, rather than participate in the ongoing litigation.

Every company and individual must come to their own decision about how to proceed, and we certainly respect and admire those that continue to fight. Our licensing with Acacia does not in any way validate their claims, obviously, and it is my personal hope that those continuing the fight prove triumphant in the end.

I?m sure that a lot of you have questions and concerns about this; I'm available at [email protected] to answer any questions you may have.

- Q.

jact 01-12-2004 08:06 AM

This space reserved.

Mr Exotic 01-12-2004 08:06 AM

LAME

Number1Thumb 01-12-2004 08:06 AM

:(

jimthefiend 01-12-2004 08:09 AM

:throwup

LadyMischief 01-12-2004 08:10 AM

Hmm.

onlymovies 01-12-2004 08:11 AM

:sadcrying

Ross 01-12-2004 08:12 AM

Damn that sucks.

Juicy D. Links 01-12-2004 08:15 AM

Good luck guys, thanks for the internext pass btw :thumbsup

EscortBiz 01-12-2004 08:16 AM

Did you guys talk to a patent attorney (that understands high-tech patents) before doing this?

JamesK 01-12-2004 08:17 AM

looks like they didn't have a choice.

Number1Thumb 01-12-2004 08:17 AM

That fuckin court case cant come soon enough, wtf

EscortBiz 01-12-2004 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard
looks like they didn't have a choice.
Where are you looking?

Cash 01-12-2004 08:18 AM

I love Topbucks anyway! :thumbsup

RockDaddy 01-12-2004 08:19 AM

Quote:

Our licensing with Acacia does not in any way validate their claims
Isn't that exactly what it does?

EscortBiz 01-12-2004 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
I love Topbucks anyway! :thumbsup
True one of the real programs out there, very upsetting thou.

SR 01-12-2004 08:21 AM

That's pretty much fucked up.
I didn't expect this from one of the biggest sponsors around.

EscortBiz 01-12-2004 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RockDaddy

Isn't that exactly what it does?

It pumps their stock in most cases and causes other to sign without talking to an attorney.

chemicaleyes 01-12-2004 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Ross
Damn that sucks.
big time

Dveron 01-12-2004 08:23 AM

Pretty surprising considering how close the court case is now. I guess this thing really could go either way :(

diesel 01-12-2004 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quentin
and was also made in light of the growing number of other industry leaders who have made the decision to license, rather than participate in the ongoing litigation.

- Q.

This is the whole scam idea of ACACIA ..

JamesK 01-12-2004 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Where are you looking?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040112/125149_1.html

Weppel 01-12-2004 08:25 AM

:(

Another one bites the dust. When will it stop?

Krille 01-12-2004 08:25 AM

is there anyone left to license now?

Trax 01-12-2004 08:26 AM

oh no
please not also topbucks :(

nobull 01-12-2004 08:27 AM

look at it this way, TopBucks is a business...a business is formed to make money, they gave it their best shot to try and fight. After a year of review they found that there was a good chance that everything they have built could go to shit if they lost the lawsuit...so they signed the agreement....why is that sooo hard to understand. I would sign if in their position and everyone (that has any business sence) would too.

VeriSexy 01-12-2004 08:27 AM

:( Bad times

Quentin 01-12-2004 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
Did you guys talk to a patent attorney (that understands high-tech patents) before doing this?
Of course we did. We wouldn't make a move in such a complex situation, or in any curcumstance involving any manner of lawsuit, without first consulting with our attorney.

- Q.

eroswebmaster 01-12-2004 08:31 AM

thank you..."leaders" of this industry.

EscortBiz 01-12-2004 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quentin


Of course we did. We wouldn't make a move in such a complex situation, or in any curcumstance involving any manner of lawsuit, without first consulting with our attorney.

- Q.

A patent attorney?

A business lawyer would say sure do it considering the small amount it costs, but most if not all "high tech" patent attornies who has seen 1000's of these in the past 5 years I highly doubt would tell you anything more then throw the papers in the trash.

jimthefiend 01-12-2004 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nobull
look at it this way, TopBucks is a business...a business is formed to make money, they gave it their best shot to try and fight. After a year of review they found that there was a good chance that everything they have built could go to shit if they lost the lawsuit...so they signed the agreement....why is that sooo hard to understand. I would sign if in their position and everyone (that has any business sence) would too.

yeah, all kidding aside they made the right choice
its easy for people with nothing to lose to bitch about it and get on some kinda high horse.
:2 cents:

diesel 01-12-2004 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


A patent attorney?

A business lawyer would say sure do it considering the small amount it costs, but most if not all "high tech" patent attornies who has seen 1000's of these in the past 5 years I highly doubt would tell you anything more then throw the papers in the trash.


Agree

eroswebmaster 01-12-2004 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by jimthefiend



yeah, all kidding aside they made the right choice
its easy for people with nothing to lose to bitch about it and get on some kinda high horse.
:2 cents:

If you can't see how we're all gonna lose in this then you don't fully understand what's going on.

Quentin 01-12-2004 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz


A patent attorney?

A business lawyer would say sure do it considering the small amount it costs, but most if not all "high tech" patent attornies who has seen 1000's of these in the past 5 years I highly doubt would tell you anything more then throw the papers in the trash.

We were part of the defense group that hired Fish and Richardson, who are of course patent law specialists, and we consulted with our own attorney, who has experiece in patent law as well. Our decision was primarily a business decision though, and was not based solely on the advice of counsel.

- Q.

msg 01-12-2004 08:37 AM

great another sponsor to boycott..

eroswebmaster 01-12-2004 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quentin


Our decision was primarily a business decision though, and was not based solely on the advice of counsel.

- Q.

No we understand...it's all about money and positioning yourself after the big fall...I just hope that you made the right decision.

jimthefiend 01-12-2004 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


If you can't see how we're all gonna lose in this then you don't fully understand what's going on.


wait til youre actually faced with a lawsuit then gimme your opinion

i can assure you they had counsel advise them to sign, which means there was SOME merit anyway to the claims brought against them.

i know a tad bit about the law, and companies just dont sign things like that unless theres a DAMN good reason

eroswebmaster 01-12-2004 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimthefiend



wait til youre actually faced with a lawsuit then gimme your opinion

i can assure you they had counsel advise them to sign, which means there was SOME merit anyway to the claims brought against them.

i know a tad bit about the law, and companies just dont sign things like that unless theres a DAMN good reason

I guess I assumed correctly...you don't understand at all what is going on.

jimthefiend 01-12-2004 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


I guess I assumed correctly...you don't understand at all what is going on.



youre annoying.

i can probably tell you more about acacia and and the legal grounds for what theyve been doing in 5 minutes than youre capable of understanding in a week of study.

might be a good time to point out ive been in law school for close to three years now.

FightThisPatent 01-12-2004 08:46 AM

The list of those fighting Acacia at:
http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/PornPartners.html

has been updated given the news of Top Bucks signing (Acacia put out a PR statement this morning as well).

Top Bucks was part of the Defense Group and did contribute financially to the Defense Group.

Also updated to the page, is Silvercash and Maxcash fighting the lawsuit, but not part of the defense group.

No confirmation/comment yet from Spike since west coast people are probably still sleeping... (except for you west coast early birds)



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