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$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:11 PM

What would make you promote a REVSHARE program?
 
The following factors I have seen from other threads and comments --

1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content

2) Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools

3) MPA2 affiliate software system

4) Free promotions tools -- search engine submissions/page tools

5) Adult promotion tools -- TGP/LL support

6) Webmaster assistance -- checklists

7) 60% to 70% Webmaster share

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

QualityMpegs 01-06-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
The following factors I have seen from other threads and comments --

1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content

2) Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools

3) MPA2 affiliate software system

4) Free promotions tools -- search engine submissions/page tools

5) Adult promotion tools -- TGP/LL support

6) Webmaster assistance -- checklists

7) 60% to 70% Webmaster share

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

yup, 1-7 please

JSA Matt 01-06-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content
Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market :2 cents:

thehornydevil 01-06-2004 04:14 PM

Sites that even I would spend money at. If I'd throw down the CC number, then I'd be confident that other people would stick with it for long enough to make revshare worth my while.

Oracle Porn 01-06-2004 04:14 PM

FUCKLOAD OF FREE QUALITY CONTENT!
The best paysite design money can get.

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QualityMpegs

yup, 1-7 please

I was hoping for additions to the list.

xanx 01-06-2004 04:17 PM

quality content that rebills really makes a revshare worthwile to me

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt


Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market :2 cents:

Problem with this is it's easy to rip off.

Let's take Goth for example. Goth is one hell of a lucrative niche. And there's only 1 or 2 sites (Amelia G's SpookyCash being at the forefront) that does justice to this niche. Now there's some big programs with their own "goth" like sites and they're probably doing better since they pay PPS.

My question is, how to avoid this? Can it?

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
FUCKLOAD OF FREE QUALITY CONTENT!
The best paysite design money can get.

1 Thousand pics, would that be enough?

JSA Matt 01-06-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions


Problem with this is it's easy to rip off.

Let's take Goth for example. Goth is one hell of a lucrative niche. And there's only 1 or 2 sites (Amelia G's SpookyCash being at the forefront) that does justice to this niche. Now there's some big programs with their own "goth" like sites and they're probably doing better since they pay PPS.

My question is, how to avoid this? Can it?

Its not exactly the niche, its the EXCLUSIVE CONTENT that is the KEY.

bignosejimmy 01-06-2004 04:22 PM

Downloadable movie clips would be great. I build picture and movie sites

Oracle Porn 01-06-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions


1 Thousand pics, would that be enough?

Probebly not...
How many sets?

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt


Its not exactly the niche, its the EXCLUSIVE CONTENT that is the KEY.

Thanks for the feedback. It will definitely be exclusive.

Here's some other factors but they pertain to retention rather than recruitment:


1) Constant Updates

2) High level of user interactivity and participation

pamphage 01-06-2004 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt


Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market :2 cents:

sometimes i think that too. but why the heck does tawnee still convert?

Phoenix 01-06-2004 04:25 PM

If you follow my link for an account and then check out our promo section you will soon see that there is more exclusive content in there then almost any other sponosrs. Lots of downloadable clips and pictures, hosted galleries, banners, buttons.

Make Bling


I am also available to work with anyone who wants to make some money.:)

JSA Matt 01-06-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions


Thanks for the feedback. It will definitely be exclusive.

Here's some other factors but they pertain to retention rather than recruitment:


1) Constant Updates

2) High level of user interactivity and participation

Your main focus should be exclusive content, next should be member retention. Just my :2 cents: :2 cents: (looks like you already have those 2 covered)

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:28 PM

If you're going to thread jack pls contribute to the thread by outlining the values of these elements and add new elements.

Thanks!


Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
If you follow my link for an account and then check out our promo section you will soon see that there is more exclusive content in there then almost any other sponosrs. Lots of downloadable clips and pictures, hosted galleries, banners, buttons.

Make Bling


I am also available to work with anyone who wants to make some money.:)


Paparazzi 01-06-2004 04:29 PM

1. Quality content
2. Updated on a regular basis
3. Good proccessor

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:30 PM

I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.

Quote:

Originally posted by pamphage


sometimes i think that too. but why the heck does tawnee still convert?


$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn


Probebly not...
How many sets?

How many would be good?

dotwind 01-06-2004 04:32 PM

no traffic leak, most niche websites would do revsharing trough ccbill or so and would have another processor on the page that you don't get paid for .... if they have mpa2 i would like to have access to all my stats from the processors as well.

^R3K^ 01-06-2004 04:32 PM

I want a revshare that knows how to sale, I dont mind filtering and even pre-saling to a point but 90% of the sites out there is only making money because of the sheer amount of traffic that is thrown at it. Marketing. Fuck all the other bullshit, I hate hosted galleries, and all that bullshit, I like to send my traffic to someone who can sell, knows what the surfer wants and gves it to them and retains. If anyone out there thinks they have that site send me a login and pass to the members area and and ill check it out. and push all the traffic I can at you. I'm serrious, contact me if you have a site like this. [email protected] If you have a great site and am looking for hardworking webmasters who will work there ass of to make you money email me.

Oracle Porn 01-06-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions


How many would be good?

30 per site
+30 every month
Same size pictures (width lenght)
20 pics per set

JSA Matt 01-06-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.


I paid off 2 cars with BlacksOnBlondes... take notes from those guys :)

^R3K^ 01-06-2004 04:33 PM

I say worry about retention before even sweating the webmaster side of it.

pamphage 01-06-2004 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.


thats why for me i think it boils down to exceptional models...not just exceptoinal content (which could be shot well with average good looking chicks.)

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^R3K^
I say worry about retention before even sweating the webmaster side of it.
Good advise. Would you advise running this through AVS's first to see if people sign up then make adjustments then run as my own program without affiliates until we fine tune retention?

Phoenix 01-06-2004 04:41 PM

well to add to your thread.

i would say watch retention, what kind of sites do they offer? do those sites keep people around?

What do they have in their backend? Do those sort of feeds/videos/pictures etc, do they keep people around?

The type of content offered can play a large role in how long someone will stick around. Exclusive content of course, and lots of video.


investigate on these points before signing up with any revshare program.

harvey 01-06-2004 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions


3) MPA2 affiliate software system


man, believe me, don't let anybody know you use MPA2 unless you're giving access to processor stats too.

and for your question: good niche, exclusive content, lotsa material, a design that doesn't looks like made for 10 dollars. In short: something that screams you put so muh in it you won't run away next week. That's basically it.

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 05:13 PM

Okay, that can be done.

Any other suggestions?


Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn


30 per site
+30 every month
Same size pictures (width lenght)
20 pics per set


$5 submissions 01-06-2004 05:14 PM

Pls expand re MPA2. Many new programs are using them and I've checked their functions and scalability...very very tight!

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey


man, believe me, don't let anybody know you use MPA2 unless you're giving access to processor stats too.

and for your question: good niche, exclusive content, lotsa material, a design that doesn't looks like made for 10 dollars. In short: something that screams you put so muh in it you won't run away next week. That's basically it.


flashfire 01-06-2004 05:34 PM

I would promote it

HarlotCash Dyker 01-06-2004 05:35 PM

In today's market, you are looking at getting signups from users that have joined many sites previously -
Hence thus:
A high % join using a false email address (They are pissed off with spam after leaving) And those that do this, most, cancel their rebilling BEFORE seeing your site.

This is fact and this is due to all the pps programmes - Soley, duely and only.

These surfers have been fucked around by a fucked-up money grabbing-profit-=-everything-and-we-pay=more=pps=than=you=do-and-fuck-the-consumer.

And a new promo comes out saying we are paying X per sign up and you fucking wippits lap it up!

However good a site, how ever often you update - Has to contend with this. - The genuine surfer with a willing credit card is still being fucked today -

What can you do? Can rebill still offer a viable alternitive?

Yes - it does - And yes - It will be the only choice as soon as visa stop penalizing every webmaster for the shit of a few.

Don't join a site you think may be worth promoting in this way - Demand a free membership - Then, if you are certain the site is good - Then you know you will make the cash over time - And certainly FAR more tha pps.:2 cents:

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 05:39 PM

Thanks, Dyker. Insightful post re the power of quality and the consumer mentality. Basically this tells me that a good revshare program must SOOTHE the consumer's fears as well.

No popups

No exit chains

Definitely no Cross Sells




Quote:

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
In today's market, you are looking at getting signups from users that have joined many sites previously -
Hence thus:
A high % join using a false email address (They are pissed off with spam after leaving) And those that do this, most, cancel their rebilling BEFORE seeing your site.

This is fact and this is due to all the pps programmes - Soley, duely and only.

These surfers have been fucked around by a fucked-up money grabbing-profit-=-everything-and-we-pay=more=pps=than=you=do-and-fuck-the-consumer.

And a new promo comes out saying we are paying X per sign up and you fucking wippits lap it up!

However good a site, how ever often you update - Has to contend with this. - The genuine surfer with a willing credit card is still being fucked today -

What can you do? Can rebill still offer a viable alternitive?

Yes - it does - And yes - It will be the only choice as soon as visa stop penalizing every webmaster for the shit of a few.

Don't join a site you think may be worth promoting in this way - Demand a free membership - Then, if you are certain the site is good - Then you know you will make the cash over time - And certainly FAR more tha pps.:2 cents:


HarlotCash Dyker 01-06-2004 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Thanks, Dyker. Insightful post re the power of quality and the consumer mentality. Basically this tells me that a good revshare program must SOOTHE the consumer's fears as well.

No popups

No exit chains

Definitely no Cross Sells





Cross sells is not always a bad idea -
As most of my sites are interconnected in nich (leg-foot-upskirt-panty etc - )
I cross sell to a single girl site which covers all those niches - (Another of my sites, I should add).

This is an unchecked cross sell - And so far, we have not had one cb via this -

(Having said that, the reason this works for us is quite simple - The site I cross sell to is www.kirstyblue.com - Who happens to be my wife! - This site is quite unique in many ways - 1) my wife is a non nude model who teases well - 2) we add regular content of "friends" galleries who provide the nudity.
3) As each request comes in for a pic/video set, we do it and upload it - Requests are often dealt with the same day-always within 3 days -
I do not know a better way to satisfy a member without actually sending round a babe for personal service!

So in this way, cross sells work.

Sending from one plug in site to another - I am sure that causes serious problems.

Brujah 01-06-2004 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.

pamphage 01-06-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.

awesome. what he said. :thumbsup

$5 submissions 01-06-2004 06:17 PM

Thanks, Brujah! Very insightful post!

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.


pornguy 01-06-2004 06:23 PM

When we opened our first sites about 4 years ago, we had 3 or maybe 4 cam girls sites listed inside for a cross sell.. We mad nothing.!!! The we removed all but one, and all of a sudden, boom We get a check for like 300$. we were so happy...

I think that cross sells are ok, but you need to limit it. If you give to much choice, the person gets dizy and just does not buy anything...


Just my :2 cents:

pornguy 01-06-2004 06:26 PM

Hey Harlot cash...

On this page of your wifes site: http://www.kirstyblue.com/main.htm

the title of the page is missing ... It will help to have it there for SE.


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