Teacher to 1st-graders: Santa is fake!
 

PLease summarize for lazy peoples..

first grade teacher Geneta Codner told her class that Santa Claus was ?make-believe.?

Why would she lie to those kids like that.

Exactly.

Amazing that people get upset when an adult tells the truth to children.

Fucked up world we live in.

No Santa clause... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Good.

I'd rather take full credit for the presents and see the kids thank me instead of some made-up charachter.

Hehe.

Its about time those kids learn the truth!

No kidding. Actually my son knew right off the bat that Santa was pretend... We never really pushed the Santa thing hard, I don't think it's right to decieve kids either. His exact words were "Mommy, I know you're Santa and that he's not really real, but I think that's cool too, because you always pick good stuff for me!". It was out of the blue, apparently because of something some other kids said at school. Now around here it's more part of the make believe fun than anything.

Oh good grief, get the fuck over it. If some family wants to do the Santa thing, the Easter Bunny thing, the Tooth Fairy thing... let them. It's not the end of the world and it's never going to bother you any. The kid will know by the time he's 12 and will still love Santa.

I wouldn't want some dumb ass substitute teacher telling my kid there was or wasn't a Santa Claus anymore than I'd want the dumb ass substitute teacher telling my kid there was or wasn't a God. That's my call for the next couple years.

I am telling my 6year old after this Xmas. There's a little bit too much dumbing down happening and seems religion is always tied up in this process. But doing it so close before the event is really just mean, she could've waited until after. :2 cents:

maybe it should be up to the parents instead of a substitute teacher - who, for goodness' sake - doesn't even have a bond with those kids. she's a fucking sub.

whatever my son thought at that age, i don't think that someone who barely knew him should have made the decision of what he should or shouldn't believe in.

wait.. he's not real? :( :waaaaahh

We grew up with Santa and were left to our own devices usually to figure out he was made up. We also had the religious shows on TV during the Hoildays and were encouraged to watch them, but no real influence was given (usually) as to the actual Religion being presented. Santa and religion were never mentioned in the same sentance so we never tied them together.

Some believed in God, others didn't. It doesn't hurt to allow a kid to believe in Santa, on the contrary, you look back when you are an adult and remember special presents... one year for me as a brand new bike.

I know NOW that my Mother had to work her tail end off to manage that bike. Very hard. Now as a kid, would I even comprehend that? So which has more value? Would I even remember that bike now if I knew then that "just Mom" gave that to me or does the 'special elf brings grand gift" help trigger that memory?

Or are people bound and determined to shove their own beliefs down their kids throats in some sort of self righteous determinations?

We use the 'Santa IS real' philosophy in our home... but a little differently. We tell our three boys:

First stage: You'll believe in Santa Clause
Second Stage: You won't believe in Santa Clause
Third Stage: You'll BE Santa Clause

It helps them understand without lying, but let's me take advantage of child hood fun... and helps the older two be considerate of the youngest, who is still in his 'first santa stage'

:winkwink:

Fyrflygrl!

i keep reading all the time from smart guys here that Santa is fake.

You know something?

FUCK YOU. Post some evidences or STFU.

Santa is real :321GFY

:thumbsup

Whoops.. guess he ruined their christmas!!

Pretty much the gist of it there. None of anyone's business what people's religious belifes, etc are.

Nothing like an adult traumatizing a whole class of 1st graders by telling them that their parents and family are all liars.

When my daughter was 7 or 8, she lost another tooth. When I mentioned the Tooth Fairy, she said "Mom, I know you're the Tooth Fairy". I tried to deny it, but she knew. Well, when she woke up, and there was no money, I said that's because there is no Tooth Fairy.

Well, when Christmas came around that year, I aked her to make a list for Santa. She said "Mom, I know you are Santa". At that point I said "Do you really want to have this discussion again?". She laughed and immediately made a list for Santa. It is fun for me, and for her. It was never about me lying to my child. They already grow up too fast, let them have fun while they can.:thumbsup

that is purely retarted. why not let kids be kids for as long as possible, whats with half the idiots of the world trying to "prepare" kids for the real world.

the longer they stay kids for the happier they are. let kids figure out things for themselves it makes them smarter in the long run.

and for all you people who said that it was good or shouldnt matter i am going to become a teacher, go into your kids class and tell your kid about all of the worlds lies.

ya sounds great, idiots. :321GFY

lol

leave it to the teachers to really mess the kids brains up!

now they are all contemplating suicide.

Hey, I just posted in the 'when did you find out santa was fake' thread. And my grade 1 teacher told our class that he was not real. She was Jewish and felt it was ok...those poor kids.

So telling children the truth about something is "messing them up"? This is not religion... parents who raise their kids with religion don't think they are lying to their children. Parents who tell their kids santa is real, however, are lying. Plain and simple.

Now, should parents also expect teachers to lie to their children? That's just ridiculous...

So you basically taught your daughter that if she finds out something is not true, she shouldn't say anything about it because she will get punished for saying the truth?
What a great parent you are...

It's not a teachers place to tell your child or my child that the myth is just that. Why not go all out and fuck up all the myths for them, The Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy etc., Believe me, when my teacher ruined it for the class it was devistating to a 6 year old!

Well they could also say nothing. There's certain things a teacher should leave up to parents and not over step their boundaries. If telling kids the cold hard truth is always right and always appropriate, I suppose it would be perfectly ok for a teacher to tell a 1st grade class the truth about where babies come from or should that be left up to parents?

Oh bite me! We had a more detailed discussion about it later. My daughter talks to me about EVERYTHING! She even tells on herself when she does something wrong and I am not around. She says "Mom, are you going to ground me? I did such and such..."

The Santa thing is just something fun for kids in a fucked up world. Jeez people get a clue.

It's not a teachers place to educate your child?

What do you mean Santa is make belive!!!

Well, the way you said it, it sure did sound like you punished your kid for speaking about having found out something all by herself :2 cents:

Some kids don't give a fuck anyway if he's real or notand a lot of people don't celebrate christmas anyway.

In my opinion, that would be perfectly okay, yes. Ofcourse not in a very explicit or detailed way, but I see nothing wrong with educating them on the facts of life. A whole lot better than lying to them and making up some story about storks or cabbages or whatever :2 cents:

It's just the bland way a message board sounds. It was very "giggly". It was really cute. As I got older, my grandma always said "If you believe in Santa, he will come". And he did until I was about 30.

I agree with this. I thought if my daughter was old enough to ask the deep questions, she was old enough for the answers. Of course my daughter is 9 going on 40.

We might as well teach a bunch of 6 year olds about prostitution, rape, molestation, teen pregnancy, religious zealots, war, pornography, excessive drug use, alcoholism, corrupt politicians, corrupt people, etc, etc, etc... eh?

There's a time and a place for everything. Allowing your 6 year old to believe in Santa is not killing anyone. You've obviously never seen the look on a little kids face on Christmas Eve when he sneaks into bed early in hopes of waking up to presents the next morning.

On the next Donahue: Santa believers turned murderers!