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Nima 11-22-2003 05:45 PM

question about MPA2
 
lets say it only uses 1 proccesor such as CCBILL
is it possible for CCbill to still send out the checks to the webmasters?

Nima 11-22-2003 05:52 PM

anybody?

Krome 11-22-2003 05:54 PM

No it doesnt as it does not interact with the processor on an affiliate level.

www.reboom.com are doing cascading which will enable the processor to do the pay out.

Dirty F 11-22-2003 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nezster
anybody?
Dude, you posted 7 mins ago? Give it some time.

Dirty F 11-22-2003 05:54 PM

There you are.

OY 11-22-2003 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nezster
lets say it only uses 1 proccesor such as CCBILL
is it possible for CCbill to still send out the checks to the webmasters?

No. And why would you? Better to be in full control yourself as the program owner.

Send the payout file to i.e. Electracash.com ([email protected]) and have them do it for a small fee (per check) - Ask for MPA2PAY and he will set it up for you. Lots of programs already do and more will in the time to come.

PS. Dont use just one processor... NEVER lay all your eggs in one basket! Ever!

PPS. MPA2

PPPS. JUDGE FOR YOURSELF!!! XBIZ AWARDS

Tipsy 11-22-2003 06:32 PM

Run by great people too. I think more to the point you have to ask yourself can you afford NOT to use MPA2?

Why 11-22-2003 06:35 PM

for 12k you could easily pay someone else to write a better piece of software.

OY 11-22-2003 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
for 12k you could easily pay someone else to write a better piece of software.
I am sure there are...

PS. MPA2 does not cost 12K

Why 11-22-2003 06:45 PM

what is it 13k?

ill correct myself then, you could easily have better software written for $5k.

all im saying is that canned software will never do what you need it to do. and they (from what i hear) will charge you extra to alter it to your needs. so you might as well just get something written to your exact specifications.

JDog 11-22-2003 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nezster
lets say it only uses 1 proccesor such as CCBILL
is it possible for CCbill to still send out the checks to the webmasters?

Nope sorry!

jDoG

OY 11-22-2003 06:46 PM

It is 2,5K plus rent

:2 cents:

JDog 11-22-2003 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
It is 2,5K plus rent

:2 cents:

What if it is bought? Not leased?

jDoG

Why 11-22-2003 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
It is 2,5K plus rent

:2 cents:

not selling outright anymore?

JDog 11-22-2003 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
what is it 13k?

ill correct myself then, you could easily have better software written for $5k.

all im saying is that canned software will never do what you need it to do. and they (from what i hear) will charge you extra to alter it to your needs. so you might as well just get something written to your exact specifications.

This is true! You end up paying for someone else to fix it and customize it to your liking. Which will be easier to have someone program one for you!

jDoG

Tipsy 11-22-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


This is true! You end up paying for someone else to fix it and customize it to your liking. Which will be easier to have someone program one for you!

jDoG

Hmmm...interesting notion. Several flaws with that if you think about it.

JDog 11-22-2003 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Hmmm...interesting notion. Several flaws with that if you think about it.

Several flaws with what? There are fixes for it, but MPA will take care of those, but if you want to customize the affiliate layouts to your liking, it costs a arm and a leg!

jDoG

OY 11-22-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
not selling outright anymore?
You want to buy it outright? Send me another email and I will send you a quote...

PS. But only if you want to make more money and have enough transactions for it to be economically sound. (to buy it outright that is...)

Nima 11-22-2003 07:00 PM

so there is a $2500 setup fee with the $300/month version??
also besides electracash which other service is good to use for having someone send outthe checks to the webmasters etc..

Oystein can I talk to you on ICQ real quick please? 63125103

I messaged you but no reply

Nima 11-22-2003 07:06 PM

also I just replied to your email! check it and give me a call

thanks

Matt_WildCash 11-22-2003 08:10 PM

Its $2500 + $300 rent each month which pays for some tech support if you have any. The $2500 deal they had when we purchased it was pretty damn good, that $2500 goes straight to VISA for 3 processors, so your setup with CCbill, Epoch & (Jettis) nothing extra to pay.

If you want to make big changes like moving everything to a new server or custom changes they will charge you for it. But they have been reasonable with these extra pricings.

MPA2 is kickass for people to startup a great cascading affilate program for $2500 + rent. And that $2500 you would of had to pay to VISA anyways, so your saving a lot of money upfront.

Highly suggest mpa2 to any program owners. Our new program www.wildcash.com is really kicking ass using there software and the cascading really does help improve sales A LOT. Programs not using cascading are honestly losing 20%-25%+ of their money.

Why 11-22-2003 08:17 PM

yes its good software, but without source it just seems in vein. your affiliate program seems like something a person would want a lot of control over. and no source really cuts your amount of control over it. what if enough affiliates complained to you about wanting the reports to look differant, you couldnt just go in real quick and change them, you would have to wait(and pay) for someone else to come and edit it.

what works for some doesnt work for all. this is not directed at any particular affilaite software, but rather all that dont provide source.

BradShaw 11-22-2003 08:24 PM

We did not buy MPA 2 for a new venture because lack of access to the source. Also I was concerned with some of the fraud protection, or lack thereof. Running an affiliate program for 6 years, I know how important tracking webmaster fraud is.

Overall, it is the best readily product available right now. True Stats is good, but when they told me their programmers were going on vacation, I laughed and took my biz elsewhere.

We decided to create our own, from scratch. Wait another month and our new Executive Stats solution will be available. But the price will start at $10k+, as nothing compares to it.

Why 11-22-2003 08:26 PM

brad, be sure to leave the shave feature out of the demo.

[Brian] 11-22-2003 08:29 PM

'Why' is the most annoying person on GFY. That's all.

BradShaw 11-22-2003 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
brad, be sure to leave the shave feature out of the demo.
There will be no shave feature built into the program, period.

Why 11-22-2003 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Brian]
'Why' is the most annoying person on GFY. That's all.
thats great coming from someone with 207 posts.... i think its someone elses old nick trying to talk shit... why you have to hide?

Why 11-22-2003 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw


There will be no shave feature built into the program, period.

good man. good to hear too.

BradShaw 11-22-2003 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
good man. good to hear too.
We are building what we believe to be the most complete, comprehensive solution for professional webmasters. But our prices will reflect the quality. I do not consider MPA2 to be competition. We are targeting different markets.

With the new 1% visa rules, controlling webmaster fraud is more important than ever......

I paid $50k back in the day for CE's stats program.........

Why 11-22-2003 08:39 PM

isnt true stats to the tune of $50k as well?

Nima 11-22-2003 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
Its $2500 + $300 rent each month which pays for some tech support if you have any. The $2500 deal they had when we purchased it was pretty damn good, that $2500 goes straight to VISA for 3 processors, so your setup with CCbill, Epoch & (Jettis) nothing extra to pay.

If you want to make big changes like moving everything to a new server or custom changes they will charge you for it. But they have been reasonable with these extra pricings.

MPA2 is kickass for people to startup a great cascading affilate program for $2500 + rent. And that $2500 you would of had to pay to VISA anyways, so your saving a lot of money upfront.

Highly suggest mpa2 to any program owners. Our new program www.wildcash.com is really kicking ass using there software and the cascading really does help improve sales A LOT. Programs not using cascading are honestly losing 20%-25%+ of their money.

can you hit me up on ICQ 63125103
thanks :thumbsup

BradShaw 11-22-2003 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
isnt true stats to the tune of $50k as well?

It may be. But I am not about to buy software from a company who tells me that their programmers are going on vacation. Therefore, they could not get the software installed for months. This is the internet, months are years.

OY 11-23-2003 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
Its $2500 + $300 rent each month which pays for some tech support if you have any. The $2500 deal they had when we purchased it was pretty damn good, that $2500 goes straight to VISA for 3 processors, so your setup with CCbill, Epoch & (Jettis) nothing extra to pay.

If you want to make big changes like moving everything to a new server or custom changes they will charge you for it. But they have been reasonable with these extra pricings.

MPA2 is kickass for people to startup a great cascading affilate program for $2500 + rent. And that $2500 you would of had to pay to VISA anyways, so your saving a lot of money upfront.

Highly suggest mpa2 to any program owners. Our new program www.wildcash.com is really kicking ass using there software and the cascading really does help improve sales A LOT. Programs not using cascading are honestly losing 20%-25%+ of their money.

Thank you Driven... :thumbsup And yes, it does make a lot of sense.

Nezster - Email and ICQ sent

Why - The reason why we do not give out source for most of our program is due to the fact that if we do these things will happen:

1. Program will either be sold as a copy or just given away to other webmasters. We are merely protecting our property and business
2. If we let webmasters play around with our code, and then perhaps (and more than likely) mess the code up, who do you think they will call when the program dont work? Well, I think they will call Mansion and ask us to fix their mess. Problem with that is that we then would not know WHAT they did with the codes to mess it up and the "I did this, you did this, I didnt do anything...." and so on. Who would get stuck with the support bill then? Not us... Not you, not us, not you, not us... It is just better to keep the cards straight so that this will be a non issue. We have seen that with the few things we do leave as "open source" webmasters still seem to manage to mess up from time to time. And that is for the most easy to modify modules. So we learn from experience.

OY 11-23-2003 05:16 AM

I accidentally submitted the last post before I was done, so here comes the rest...

Brad - All respect to you for your decision. I am sure we will have plenty of other things to do together at a later junction

As for "the lack of fraud protection" - this will be a non issue with our next upgrade coming in Jan. 2004 - that upgrade will even blow away our current version of MPA2
After over 1,5 years of 60+ program owners using MPA2 we have not experienced more than normal webmaster fraud. Actually less than we expected. I think the reason for this is that we work so close with the processors to make this a non issue. We are constantly improving the fraud prevention tools in MPA2. Brad is right, this is one of the most important things to be monitoring!


:thumbsup

bigdog 11-23-2003 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
We did not buy MPA 2 for a new venture because lack of access to the source. Also I was concerned with some of the fraud protection, or lack thereof. Running an affiliate program for 6 years, I know how important tracking webmaster fraud is.

Overall, it is the best readily product available right now. True Stats is good, but when they told me their programmers were going on vacation, I laughed and took my biz elsewhere.

We decided to create our own, from scratch. Wait another month and our new Executive Stats solution will be available. But the price will start at $10k+, as nothing compares to it.

nice

Groove 11-23-2003 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
PS. Dont use just one processor... NEVER lay all your eggs in one basket! Ever!
XBIZ AWARDS

A few questions...

Do you support Verotel, or any EU processors other than CCBill and Jettis?

Is there a $2,500 fee? (I see no mention of this on your site.)

Why do you still have Paypal listed as a processor?

Tipsy 11-23-2003 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove


Why do you still have Paypal listed as a processor?

I'm in the mood to answer that one for him - not everyone uses it for adult sites. By far the majority but not everyone. I'm sure I'll be corrected if that's wrong but from a couple of msgs from Oystein that very much seems to be the case.

Darren 11-23-2003 07:03 AM

out of curiousity do u still have contact with psw...

OY 11-23-2003 07:17 AM

Groove - In the new upgrade that is coming out this January we will have a new processor implemented that will cover both EU and Asia. Announcement will come shortly.

And Tipsy is absolutely right in her answer to you about PayPal. We cater to other industries than the adult too, not a lot yet, but we still do. So PayPal is a good alternative for them.

Darren - Yes we do. :)

Darren 11-23-2003 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
Groove - In the new upgrade that is coming out this January we will have a new processor implemented that will cover both EU and Asia. Announcement will come shortly.

And Tipsy is absolutely right in her answer to you about PayPal. We cater to other industries than the adult too, not a lot yet, but we still do. So PayPal is a good alternative for them.

Darren - Yes we do. :)

can u icq me then please 46335817


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