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All serious questions will be answered :thumbsup

have u ever shitted on the cock?

HAY LADY! ...

what is the best converting gay niche?

... Yay

Depends (as with any niche) on how you market it :thumbsup

I could send 1000 TGP hits to a site with a bunch of Pure Bear banners on it and make 1 sale or, i could send a bunch of filtered traffic to a site with a bunch of Quality Males banners on it and make 10 sales.

Sites only convert as well as your marketing skills regardless of the niche.

However, it really does pay to do a bit of research into the Gay Market niches before starting to promote them on their own :2 cents:

What exactly are your qualifications for telling us what does and does not work in gay?

What can I do to get more gay specific webmasters to buyinto the gay line??????

It has always been my opinion that we need to be a little more "Gay" in our appoach to the products we provide.

If you have inside the community knowledge than it would be valuable to me.

Any opinions on this would be welcome

:glugglug

Non what so ever, i havent worked for a company who has been marketing gay adult sites on the web for the last 8 years just as i dont help with the sites at Stud Money and just as i dont help out on http://www.gaywidewebmasters.com

I also havent been taught by Gary-Alan for the last 12 months who doesnt happen to be affectionatly dubbed by his peers as the 'Gay Guru'.

How come I dont see any of the major gay tgps pushing your program?

Jim,

can you clarify the first line of you post please dude.

As for getting more inside community knowledge feel free to shoot an email over to myself usig [email protected] or to either Gary-Alan (who im sure you have heard of) [email protected] or Lee [email protected]

So you are 1 year into this business? And you work in a support role. Not actually any experience in selling gay porn or producing traffic?

Because we havent approached them i would expect :thumbsup

Plus we have a few things of our own in the works so far as TGP's go :Graucho

Sarcasm is obviously lost on you :)

meaning i think we have a great line for the gay sites...I would like to get an inside opinion.

I do not have anyone who is a gay content specialist if you will. i know that I can tell you flat out what straight content will do it...

I assume for the gay content it is the same...you know what people are into.....

I just would like you to look at the product lines we offer and see if they look appealingh to a gay audience

does that make sense????

I'm here for a few if it makes sense just hit that banner and check out our product lines for gay content

if we look good cool somebody deserves a pat on the back....if not i want to know so I have a guage of reference

So if I got 12 months of tutoring from Sleazydream, without any actual real world experience running any sort of program or tgp, I could come on here and tell people what works and what does not?

I dont think so.

Stop spamming your shit or I will murder you.

Sig too big! :BangBang: Fucking spammer

how can i get 50k a day to my site too? :arcadefre

Jim,

Just from the first page (no password for access) as a consumer (read as affiliate program) in all honesty i probably wouldnt push the feeds to my gay surfers in a paysite.

The splash screens just dont 'do anything' for me, perhaps try changing the graphics around i do know that Holio has had the same graphics on those feeds for a very long time (remember something about that from a convo with GA and Lee a few weeks ago) perhaps you should try using a different approach.

So far as the feeds themselves go obviously without being able to see them i cant comment however, i will say that many gay surfers often make their decisions based on the first part of a site (or feed) that they see and, the POI (Point Of Impact) pages you currently have just dont cut it IMHO.

Thats not to kock your product as a whole as i know a few of the larger sites use your feeds and they obviously work well for their member base otherwise they wouldnt keep using them for as long as they have been but, if you want to get fresh companies using your feeds a fresh approach is needed.

Feel free to shoot an email over to one of us in the office if you want some more specific advice as well as some suggestions as to where / how you can market your feeds directly to the gay webmaster community.

[email protected]

Havent you already emailed Gary-Alan for help on that dude?

Wait for his advice, itll be better than mine without a doubt :thumbsup

i was being sarcastic, in reference to a previous thread regarding your outster counter, but yes ive emailed gary & am awaiting his reply. :)

Cool and thank you...

We are very aware the interface and the home page need to be updated.

We have a fairly conservative approach when it comes to aesthetics....once you make a change you better be happy with it because the real money is made with reliability, a good staff, and making sure those fucking feeds are working during a ground attack.

The next version of Holio will be nothing short of amazing...it has been in the works for many...many....many months.

All products completely overhauled with a whole new home site that will be very cool.

When it rolls out I expect that the branded name we have been so fortunate to have built will take a much larger step forward. Not sure if you know this but we have been here since the start.

When updating the gay line hits my to do for the week i will take you up on the offer to talk with your team

LATE...

JH

Jim,

Just to append somehting onto my above post about your feeds.

Using your 'Anal Ninja' feed as an example.

Its a feed focusing on asian guys, you should probably use content of 'asian guys' as your main focus rather than a couple of American hunks.

Also, your feed 'Cirlce Jerk' lends its name to more than one guy yet, it is a feed for solo guys jerking off.

Dont mean to sound harsh or anything in my response but the content you are using on the page for the feeds either contradict the name of the feed or, is for a completly unrelated gay market niche, that is where i would personally make a few changes to start off with and then go from there.

We will look forward to hearing from you at such a time as you may want to speak with us Jim :)

"adorno" could you contact me please? ICQ 2-8-1-3-7-3-3-2-4
might be a little spammy..

What can I do to take my site to the next level?

If you don't know the URL ICQ me.. if someone knows it .. don't post it here plz

You want me to icq you so you can spam me? At least you are honest I guess.

Well to be honest, coming form someone who doesnt like gay and striaght webmaster working together i do find it confusing how your site is a 'straight guy' site but that said, taking the site to its next level implies that i know the level it is currently on which, i dont, perhaps if you want to provide some more info i could give you a better answer than this one :)

Had I thought you were trying looking like a smarty pants I would have flamed you....

You are giving sound constructive criticism on an area that I clearly feel we have no real expertise in....


As stated above we are going to completely update Holio from front to back and top to bottom no pun intended

I need real world opinions...the products were designed and deployed in a time when you did not have to be so "in tune" with a savvy community.

Thanks for the input....when the Gay line is on the table for a tune up I will have give you a ring.

JH

You don't know where I'm coming from to make such a comment... unless you the type of straight webmaster that is ripping off Gay subscribers ( which is what I'm against ) and just in the Gay community to make a quick buck.. if that's where you're coming from your "help" is no good.

On the other hand if you're working with our community and give a shitt about the people there I'm not interested because you're insulting and obviously out to help others than myself.

BTW .. my searching my ass off to find patent prior art is to help all of us. :thumbsup

I don't doubt it .. your advice on here has been marginal at best

Okay- not so much a question for any one person.

Do you think it's worth the time and/or profitable to submit gay gallys to primarily straight tgps? I know most of them have a "gay" category, but are there really enough sales there to bother with it? Do any of the gay guys here remember surfing straight tgps? I know the "closeted, in denial" guys would be good targets, but are those the only ones you're gonna get?

And does the size of the straight tgp matter? In other words, it's worth it for the top big guys, but don't fool with the smaller/mid sized ones?

Enlighten me.

Holly I'd seriously take anything he has to say with a grain of salt :winkwink:

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He has only been doing this a year. It would be like taking advice from any other newb.

Just because he eats cock, does not mean he can sell it.

Nearly every major gay traffic source out there, and most of the best converting gay sites on the market, are run by breeders.

well I've finally got a good excuse to chat and I lost the ICQ# you posted months ago. You probably saw the post I erased so yeah whatever.

Adorno why do you think he's gay? Why on earth would you think that because he markets gay sites?? :winkwink:

He said he is gay. It is Lee, he blows Gary for fun and profit. Common knowledge.

After surfing for gay porn for the last 9 years, I go to YAHOO GROUPS or MSN GROUPS to find gay porn there is a shitload of it there.....For free...

I have heard it many times not only on this board but on others as well Gay guys have more time to spend surfing thus they are more likely to surf through the groups to find what they are looking for.

Shit I have a website http://www.fun2cboys.com that I have tried to market. I make some money here and there from toys and accessories and the occasional porn sale here and there..

But the rest of my money comes from straight stuff pure and simple.

If anyone has any ideas for more traffic for my site or a better way for me to market it I would be more than happy to listen to any suggestions.

That's not true at all .. our community is strong and mainly consists of individuals.. there are a few straight owned "Gay" sites doing well.. not many

I have nothing against Gay people helping straight webmasters get into our market.. but I don't like them taking advantage of us or our subscribers. As long as they're respectful and care about our community I'm behind them 100% .. I posted regarding this before (that's his reference) So I assume by his rude smart ass reply to me that he is not in our camp :thumbsup

He can speak for himself. He dogged me here so I assume that he is working with straight webmasters that are ripping us off. As his snide remark shows some resentment at me for the post. So I can only assume he has resentment because he's in the opposite camp. No big deal. Now I know :thumbsup

So where does that leave female webmasters? I'm not into women sexually, so I shouldn't push "straight" sites, and I'm not into gay guys sexually, so I shouldn't push "gay" sites? So I'm only qualified for "women's porn", basically?

IMO, that's a load of bull. Straight guys/girls can do gay sites, and gay guys/girls can do straight sites. As long as you're willing to take the time to do them right and learn about the area you're focusing on, I can't see the big deal.