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Lets fuck Acacia
Hi all,
I usually use a different name here, just so you know. I want to begin this topic under an alias for legal reasons. I think we can all band together to stop Acacia without spending a dime. I do support the idea of fighting them legally too. Meanwhile, we simply bleed them while they try to find us! It occurs to me that they can simply search google for "adult" "video" "download" and find an endless source of targets. I propose That we compile a likely list of keywords i.e. Video, Streaming, mpeg etc.... and ask every adult site to add them to their meta tags and in plain text somewhere on their page. This means any adult site, with or without video, will show up in a search. Those of us without video make a vague (just like their claim) claim to have video, with a disclaimer that we do not promise it. i.e. "This site cannot promise to offer video due to a patent issue." Before you flame remember this. The technique needs refining. It's the idea that is important. If these bastards have to subscribe to every adult site to learn if video is used, they will go after an easier industry like Dish or Direct TV. Rat |
lets do it :) :)
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I signed with them already
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Playing with meta tags will not solve the Acacia problem.
WG |
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:arcadefre :uhoh :eyecrazy
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Whoa.
I feel like it's 1996 again. |
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Awesome. So when this same company buys up another obscure patent, you'll get the first "invitation" to cough up! -------------------Future Headline from Acacia--------- Patent 1003932983984239 MAsturbation Acacia Research has acquired the following technology. A method for inflicting pleasure on one's self by use a manual manipulation such as the hand. Whereby ones self causes by intent ,or other, the manipulation of ones eroginous regions of said recipient to cause such region to erupt. TERMS. Anyone wishing to use this technology shall agree to a fee schedule as follows: Once per week = $50.00 Once per day = $300.00 Site license (ie your bedroom) $600/mo Masturbator further agrees that byproduct of such activity is the sole property of Acacia. At it's discretion, Acacia may impose other fee's for removal of such matter as follows: One tissue per day $10.00 One crusty sock per week, $60.00 |
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hahaha I'm waiting for someone to suggest loading Acacia's website in a hidden frame on all their tgp submissions lol |
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WG |
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You need to think past yourself and beyond this afternoon in these situations. Video is a tiny item on my site. I can lose it and not care. What concerns me is the Jpeg license that will follow. Anyone who thinks this is not coming is being foolish. This company did not invent digital video transmission. They bought the thought of it. This company has no engineers, is not pushing new technology nor is it honest. This is a group of lawyers who are pushing new legal frontiers. You pay them and it will never end. They will be back for more. Witht eh war chest you are builing for them, they will buy other technologies you are using and expect money for that. Why us first? Because they will need the easy money before going after the cable and satelite companies. Guess what, your TV bill will go up after that! All so a roomful of fucking lawyers can becoem the next billionaires. This needs to be stopped by any means. |
The guy who invented http was from England and he GAVE the idea to British Telecom for zilch.
I believe BT gave the patent away - I am not sure. I am certain this will come back and fuck us all in the ass - And I bet you it will be from American shores. |
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And I wonder how much everyone will pledge for the fight the jpeg battle? |
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C'mon kid.. http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1523457/i/Macgyver_PIC.jpg |
Um, no.
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Yup, another lamer. Go ahead and roll over for your ass fucking. No way in hell I pay for the right to sell my own stuff. What are you going to do when this technique catches on dumbfuck? You don't think that someone else out their has some other vague antique patent that will be applied to us? Pussies like you are the reason lawyers like that can do shit like this. These fuckers didn't patent an actual device. They patented a vague concept. They didn't spend money researching technology, the spent money on lawyers. This is a shakedown. I think everyone should pull their videos and replace them with a map to Acacia's headquarters. |
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For those wondering about the JPEG patent, yes, there is a company that is claiming the patent to JPEG. Article talking about the JPEG patent: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-945735.html Website tracking the JPEG patent issues (no, it's not FightTheJPEG.com :Graucho )P http://pmt.sourceforge.net/SVG-patents/jpeg.html I looked at this patent, and to put in a very broad terms.. the patent says to use the XYZ algorithm to compress images to a smaller size.... JPEG uses the XYZ algorithm.. From my initial reading, the patent looks solid, it's very specific.. i think the only way that people are going to be able to overturn the patent is to prove that inventor was involved with the pre-beginings of the JPEG group, and failed to disclose that invovlement to the USPTO.. but then again, a patent case tested this water to say it doesn't matter if the individual didn't disclose their involvement, just as long as there wasn't prior art. Forgent, the company that holds the patent, has chosen to target manufacturers like Sony who write digital still images to JPEG format, etc.... If Forgent were acting like Acacia, they would be sueing every website that had a JPEG image that whatever created the image (digital camera, software, etc) didn't have a license, then they could in theory charge the website with contributory infringement.... but fortunately at least for this example, Forgent is not going that route (i talked to the CTO about their patent). Fight the Patent! |
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SBC's patent is on a navigation system that involves having the nav bar be fixed and when a button onthe navbar is pressed, the nav bar stays present but the content underneath or next to it changes... the modern day implementation of this patent in their eyes is a web page that uses frames.. where one frame holds the nav bar and the other frame holds the content when a button is pushed. SBC didn't patent the use of frames, just the idea of locking the navbar on a screen so that the nav bar stays stationary while the rest of the page loads.. This patent probably came out of their customer service software... in anycase, they have a whole licensing price structure. The easy way around their patent, is to not use framed pages...jus redraw (#include) the nav bar on each page and you'll get around their patent. Fight The Patent! |
Sounds good to me!
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Tell me (or guide me to) more information on your organization. Before I pledge, I need to see that you are real, others are involved and this isn't just some scam. Scuse me for being blunt! Also I'm looking for the IMPA at http://www.impai.org and not finding it. Is it still around? Does anyone know if a downloadable disc image file (iso) of a CD that contains video is covered by this dumb ass patent? Are there any info forums discussing workarounds? After reading this board, I get the feeling that most people here will roll over. I'm almost certain that these folks won't band together. What you have here is an ass load of wannabe's. I won't cave to these assholes. I'll either dump my video until they get beaten down by one of the big guys, or I'll move my shit to Ghana. I don't have a lot of video. It's the principle of the thing. IF these assholes get away with this, jpg is next. |
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This is what patents are for: A company invents something (if they did it) and protects their rights to the technologie by targeting the companies using the technologie to reproduce an item or program or picture. You cannot target a user of e.g. a jpg picture when it was created with a program like Photoshop that you paid money for and therefore had to assume that all was licenced and legal. This is what really strikes me as odd with the Acacia case. In Germany this patent would not hold at all as you cannot patent things like a movie download. The reason is simple as you cannot point fingers on any person who does something illegally. 1. You use software to compress a movie. Most likly MPG or AVI that should be licened to use those allgorithems. 2. You upload it as any other file using a FTP software that should have all licences to do so. 3. You set a link to that file on your webpage and linking patent was already revoked. 4. A USER! clicks on the link and downloads the file. If the file is legal how can the webmaster be responsible? He does nothing to initiate the transfer. Streaming should be even easier as you use software like real or microsoft media player to manage it and this software should have all the licences to do so as you bought it. So if Acacia targets Microsoft or Real they might even have a case but a webmaster? the US is surely a weird country when it comes to those kinds of laws. |
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I don't know how this could happen but it happened. And the only german magazine/internet site reporting about Acacia every now and then is Heise.de (of course). |
Acacia:321GFY
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I like the concept. Because I don't have video ..."currently" ... I have no problem being public. What you are suggesting is a real , and acceptable, and purposeful Google.com bomb. I'm in with both feet .. As long as the sites contain information that is real - valid and not against the AUP of Google then - it's fair territory. |
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Just brain storming ...
In order to pull this off ... You have to take this off GFY ... I could do this for you guys. It would take six months. Flip SexEducation.com to "mature" and not "adult" then go mix it up in non-adult websites. Sounds like you guys need a blogger. I'm for hire. |
If anyone in the "purposefully targeted adult industry" does anything - you're going to get nailed with CADs.
You're wondering why IMPAI.org is not working - I'm not. |
There is only one way and one place to fight Acacia and make sure the other companies with similar Patents think twice about going after us.
That way is to meet and beat them in court, all the idiots posting GFY smilies mean nothing and are the main reason Acacia chose this industry. We need to come together with money and research, so when we get to court Acacia cannot simply outspend us. We need to do it for ourselves and not wait for the other guy to do it, point the finger at someone and saqy "he has more emoney than me let him pay" or wait for Microsoft to come in and save our arses. In my opinion the main people to lose will be webmasters. If this patent is not beaten then look to 100 companies max having the ability to stream videos. Why pay out vast sums of money to affiliates with so little competition, why pay fortunes for stands at shows or pay for money to advetise? With only 100 sites carrying video the need to promote will be reduced by such a large factor webmasters will not be needed to drive traffic. So get out your credit card and give something while you still have something to give. This is just my opinion. |
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It's not true though... there will be a few thousand left probably. The acacia fees are absurd, but not high enough to drive most of us out of business. They'd weed out some of the competition, make the market more profitable for larger businesses, but would not essentially change the structure of adult internet... most things would stay the same, only the bottom half would be cut off. |
Acacia purposely targeted the adult industry because it is "fragmented" - and I believe that is true.
Why else - except for CP has the adult industry not terminated known perversions. I'm for hire. Just $2500 USD per month. But I want you guys to create a stop FGM campaign in return. If you do that - I switch boards ... I will engage the "rooms" with SexEducation.com while keeping my sig focussed on Acacia issues ... Teachers use video. Universities use video. I know how to mix it up - I want a job. Another one that I enjoy. :) |
John E. Beacock
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They'd probably claim that the patent also covers meta tags and text that includes the phrase, 'video streaming' ..
Wouldn't surprise me.. They're claiming it covers everything else.. |
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not a joke ... I want to get my "Red Sea"l Chef certificate ... |
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Ehm... anyway, how much are you asking? |
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