MPA2 crew looking for advice......
 

The MPA2 crew from Mansion Productions are considering adding an additional processor to back up the existing processors already implemented. Currently three main ones are Epochsystems , CCBill , and PSW billing and also implemented are Netbilling (for merchant account holders), Jettis , IBill and of course Electracash for check processing and EGroup (NoCreditCard) as dialer solution.

Now this time we want to have a European processor, and possibly an Asian one as well.

What we need from you guys in GFY land is advice on which one(s) to choose to implement.

So please spam this thread with your pros and cons about your experiences with your European and or Asian processor that can handle the adult webmasters demanding processing.

We want it all... Good or bad!

Thanks all....

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Oh and one thing.... GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! :321GFY :winkwink:

how about paypal, and epassporte payouts?

can you add anymore links ?

ibill.. i like them.. but if there is a prob, i bet the affiliates will be bugging the shit out of the sponsor.. something that they might not want.

i dont know about their eu processing or shit. i just like to say ibill is a doube edge sword.

I'd love to see Verotel and/ or 2000charge in the list

Why - PayPal has been implemented for over a year (just forgot to mention them...) and Epassporte is in the works. (KimmyKim... please stand up :-))
QuickBooks has been implemented from the start, for payouts, and Electracash offers a product where they will print, cut and send out checks for the affiliate program owner, called MPA2PAY...

JupZChris - :Graucho

chowda - We took IBill out of the three standard processors well over a year ago. They are still offered as an alternative.

Stramm - They are definately on top of our list. Why do YOU go for them in particular? Pros? Cons?

hmmm now a cool feature would be is if the signup process could determine where the surfer was from ie europe / asia and then direct them to that particular processor that best fit that surfer, also could setup who would be the backup as well. If that isn't in place yet.

Keev - In the works... :pimp

2000charge?

Verotel has been doing really well for me as of late... so my vote definitely goes to them for implementation into MPA2 :thumbsup

Why? Come on... Give me some REAL feedback here. I know all the names, but I want to know why...

:eatmouse

Doing well as in what? All over performance, tech support and customer service? Tell me more...

2000charge cause of the german direct debit. It's a huge market and direct debit is there the #1 payment solution.

Verotel cause they seem to accept lots more euro CCs than eg. CCBIll, IBill

verotel, cause it's a good alternative for non us webmasters

Jesus Bill
Jesus Dialer

psw
just in case they come back!

We are using Verotel and have for the most great with them , just had a time they had a black out and change over and was down a small time , i get letters for the head guy there helping me on things

now i want to ask why the fuck would you be using PWS BILLING
dont these people still owe out a ton and that is all we need another biller owing more :2 cents:

Oystein, hit me up for german processing :)

YES stay the fuck away from PSW! :feels-hot Their company shoudn't be mentioned here in combination with any positive remarks!

ask me that same question when we meet next week mate

Have I got an answer for you :winkwink:

Stramm - Perfect. I would love to hear that from more webmasters too.

freeheaven - That seems to be the general feedback I get too. Thanks :)

boneprone - :Buck:

makefuckingmoney - PSW is one of the three standard processors we use.

prostock - Thanks for the feedback on Verotel. As for PSW, we are monitoring them continously. :winkwink:

JOP - Email me at oystein at mansionproductions dot com with your contact info please.

Jizar II - See comment to prostock above...

EvilDan - Looking forward to meeting you, as always Dan. Give me a ring or send me an email when you get to town - I am sure a couple of drinks and maybe a dinner would be appropriate :)


And I still want more feedback guys! Keep'em coming...


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How about SMS billing. Would that be something you guys would want us to add ? Paying over the cell phone is getting bigger and bigger in Europe, and Im sure it would generate some extra sales for you.... Should we, yes or no :helpme

I think Tucker has already lined up a dinner and drinking session for Sat 18th in LA somewhere

Try and make it if you can, because my mind is on overdrive atm, and I have some fairly big ideas to discuss

Verotel and 2000charge.

Why? Simply because Europeen are extremely limited since PSW's fiasco.

We need solid EU processors... why not add both Verotel and 2000charge?

Verotel is the most popular... but will they be still alive in 1 year?

I agree that 2000charge's BE debit card is pretty interesting.

Yes, but it's nothing extremely important RIGHT NOW.

You better add 2 solid EU processors like Verotel and 2000charge before thinking about SMS billing.

As someone said previously, EU processors can be very interesting for any US sponsor. Redirect any EU traffic directly to the MPA2's EU processors list. (CCBill EU and Jettis are not real EU processors)

He mentioned that. It will be fun and interesting, I am sure. CYA in LA buddy...

2000charge.com for eu debit. If you're going to go for an eu processor you may as well go for one that actually processes eu specific payments as well as eu cards.
I've asked for 2000charge implementation with mpa2 previously.. good to see you're looking into it.

Hmmm. I hear you... Now out of the two ones (Verotel and 2000charge - the latter btw originating from the crew from MS Bill in Los Angeles. Whats up Wolf...) What are the pros and cons between them?

As for your comment about SMS billing. You might be right - We do want to add it though, so the question is more WHO rather than IF :)

I also believe in the EU processors to better handle US merchants EU traffic. Optimization is key. No doubt. Great feedback :thumbsup

:) We have for a while. No doubt that this is something lots of our existing as well as new MPA2 users (both owners and affiliates) will benefit from.

The idea is that MPA2 will get a valid transaction through, whatever it takes, and adding a EU processor is definately important for many webmasters.

I think 2000charge would be a great add on to the MPA2. We used them awhile back and they have great support and they had their pages in over 10 languages which is nice and never had any problems with them.

Mark

I mean doing well as in overall performance. I've been rotating my JOIN page 50% CCBill and 50% Verotel for the past two weeks -- a crude, but effective way to test overall performance. And in that span, Verotel has almost doubled CCBill in successfull new sales, with nearly equal traffic reaching both join page.

Coincidence that the surfers that were willing to buy happened to hit the Verotel join pages? Maybe.... but I doubt it. I think it's just the level of CCBill's scrubbing as compared to Verotel.

Does the extra scrubbing help webmasters? Sure it does.... but when it starts literally cutting into the bottom line, you definitely have to start looking for alternative ways to get the sales through.

btw i've just seen mpa2 switched on for an affiliate and the ratio is 1:21 for 84 hits. 2 epoch, 2 cascaded to psw. I realise the secondary ratio falls to a third/half of the first and there are bugger all hits which is why the cascading looks hot, but still, damn.. good shit!

and before anyone cries bs, it's a $2.95 3 day trial on the affiliate's members traffic. not tgp.

BluMedia - Mark, always good to hear what you have to say... Duly noted... :)

grannytgp - Pretty impressive. And you are right that the scrubbing is normally good for the webmaster. After all we do have to stay below a 1% CB ratio these days. However, VALID transactions are being scrubbed out. And THAT is not what we want. Bottom line AND being in business is what it is all about. Be competitve, stay ahead... use what is necessary to stay on top!

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bhutocracy - Seriously?!? Hmmm.... Well, I have seen similar numbers before. Different equations, but same numbers. Some even more extreme. I would love to hear other webmasters with the same experiences...

Hi Oystein, just wanted to say hello.:thumbsup

As i keep saying: Cascading billing should be the no1 priority of any affiliate program that doesnt offer it at the moment.

What are the fees for MPA2PAY?

:) ahh im going off the figures you posted a few weeks ago that had the secondary processor at 50% of the primary signups and assuming they are the norm - I wasn't going to claim mpa2 doubles signups based on 84 hits even though it did!

http://www.mpa2pay.com/ ?

mpa r0rx0rz j00r b0x0rz!!!!