Things You Wanted To Know About Acacia But You Were Afraid To Ask
 

Let me preface this by saying that this is my opinion and is supported by Acacia?s own words. Be aware that Acacia watches the boards. Further Acacia is attempting to amend their complaint to punish us for banding together. More on this in the coming days. I'll speak about a few of Acacia's tactics and tell you my opinions.



Acacia Tactic 1: They are going after everyone whether you stream, zip, download, or link. For example sites that have affiliate links to other sites with video are being targeted. Read the article at

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=34286. This article talks about Acacia's litigation tactics and its recent decision to pursue default judgments against people who did not respond to the lawsuit they filed. The article says that:

Acacia vice president Rob Berman said July 18 that whether or not the defaulted companies are out of business isn't exactly going to prove an obstacle. If they've suspended operations or gone out of business, he said, that's one thing, but if they turn out to be trying to hide, that's something else entirely. And Acacia isn't going to stop with just content providers or AVS services, either.

"We have a team of researchers that does nothing but identify these groups," Berman said. "Content providers, AVSs, Webmasters, affiliate programs. Just because we haven't contacted you yet, it doesn't mean we haven't heard of you and that we're not going to get in touch with you."



Acacia Tactic 2: Acacia's trumpeting that it secured "Injunctions against Adult Webmasters and Content Providers for Violating Acacia's Patents"
This is a scare tactic, nothing more. The companies that they sued never showed up in court hence as a matter of administration they had a default judgment entered against them. There has been no entry of injunctions against companies that have decided to fight this matter.



Acacia Tactic 3: Acacia's claims about its VChip Litigation. This is what really happened (from its quarterly statement). They lost!
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/021113/actg10-q.html

On April 5, 2000, Soundview Technologies filed a federal patent infringement and antitrust lawsuit against Sony Corporation of America, Philips Electronics North America Corporation, the Consumer Electronics Manufacturers Association and the Electronics Industries Alliance d/b/a Consumer Electronics Association in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, alleging that television sets utilizing certain content blocking technology (commonly known as the "V-chip") and sold in the United States infringe Soundview Technologies' U.S. Patent No. 4,554,584. In September 2002, the United States District Court for the District of Connecticut granted a motion for summary judgment filed by the defendants. In granting the motion, the court ruled that the defendants have not infringed on Soundview Technologies' patent. While we are currently exploring strategies in response to this ruling and intend to appeal it, litigation is inherently uncertain and we can give no assurance that we will be successful in any such appeal.



Opinion 1: This is in my opinion but it would appear the latest licensing drive is along the lines of Acacias apparent policy to pick on little companies unable to defend themselves in patent litigation.





Opinion 2: Whatever you do be sure to consult an attorney regarding the contract they sent you. You will be stuck with the contract you sign.



Opinion 3: If you are a foreign webmaster don?t think that will keep you safe. As long as you do business in the US Acacia can reach you.



Opinion 4: Acacia has said they are coming to the show so I believe it behooves everyone to act in a professional manner.



As always feel free to contact me if you have any questions. 949-716-8080 [email protected]

What better place to get a full list of anyone streaming video right there as samples, advertising having video, and handing out business cards to collect and give to the lawyers?

Be careful who you give your business card to this time around.
I went to Internext and came home with hundreds of business cards - not all were given to me, many were just picked up off of stacks.
What a goldmine of information for a company who is looking for people to target. Signed, sealed, and delivered.
And much less work than sitting and reading the GFY drivel daily looking for URLs.

it reminds me of when that old sex.com guy tried to sue anyone with sex in their domain name.

Crooks that will get whats coming to them in the end. Thats how it always works out eventually.


These sound like a bunch of dumbfucks that lost their shirt after the internet boom and have to try to do something to earn a buck because they cant build a business plan.

Do what the Amish do: shun them.

What reason do the Amish have to shun Acacia?

Have you ever heard of an Amish person licensing anything from Acacia?

Spike,

Very well said.......

Hugs,
tina

Yes, my great uncle Ishmael did it for the videos on his Amish gangbang site.

Have they gone after any of the mainstream big boys yet? Like, MSNBC, CNN, etc...

So now they're wanting people to believe that they have patents on downloading and linking... ?

And apparently want people to think they have all rights having anything to do with movie or song files..

As far as going after those who just link to the sites.. they will probably start going after people who just visit the sites..

These guys must really be desparate!!!

Sounds to me like if they're not careful, they're gonna become their own worst enemy.

We who are up in our years were downloading files in the commy 64 days.. I was transferring files in 72 from one Naval base to another.

Is there a link to a thread that explains what this whole acacia thing
is about? I'm reading bits and pieces of the story, but still don't know
what its all about.

Acacia is screwed, they will not win poop. I really think they got one hell of a surprise when a few smut peddlers got
together to fight them. :1orglaugh :thumbsup It's beyond me how anyone would settle with them. I'm wondering when
they loose if you can bring civil action against there Corp. officers and lawyers, after all they are patient Lawyers. There
patient it's worth the paper it's written on and I know shit about patient law, just have some common sense and can
fucking read. Hell one day one this board all kinds of post on Video's on the net years before there patient. Hell I had a
friend that use to bring me Porn CD's back in the Dos day's Dos 3.1. (1980's) Think I threw all of them away about 5
or 6 months ago (not 100% sure) . I use to play them for a few customers with pcanywhere in Dos. Fucking idiots.

Wow, here we are thinking Bush and his rightwing assmasters were going to fuck up this business and it looks like it'kll be a bunch of little wormy fuckrakes standing behind lawyers (note, it is is my OPINION they are fuckrakes, I don't actually have any proof).

I pray for them to get cancer in their asses.

LOELEROELSODSLDOLDOLSDODLSLSDSLSDLDS i laughed so hard

Cuncur.

You have it wrong. They are wormy fuckrakes who ARE lawyers (in my opinion only of course).

hahah, you're right my bad...
we'll discuss it further in detail in Vegas over a beer or 15 when you guys get into town :-) and I won't spill it in Shainna's shoe this time...

What if you put your movies into .swf flash format so people have to view your content as flash movies? Are they going after that too?

Dude, I'm not even letting her wear shoes near you this time ;)

We'll be there on the 31st; Im trying to line up real-estate appointments for Fri-Sat-Sun but we'll have plenty of time to hang out after 5:00 PM :)

Hit me on ICQ one of these days...I want to get an update on stuff and swap cell #'s etc.

I'll be a gentleman and not say anything on the first part (mainly because shainna will kick my ass ;-))

Sounds great, we'll do that. I think you guys will love Vegas.

One of these days I'll have to get out and meet a couple more Vegas-based webmasters.......

Ahh, don't believe it's not somehow related. As this goes to court the voice of the administration, the judges, will be more than happy to give us the fuckstick unless a proper case is argued in our favor.

Sometimes the people in power like to stand by and let someone else seemingly unrelated do the dirtywork. This is one of those cases. I bet this brings a smile to Mr. Ashhahahahaha's face.

The claim isn't against any one single technology but rather they claim to own the entire concept of digital audio and video streaming and downloading. It's such a broad brush that there's almost nothing it can't be applied to. I wonder if CNN will just turn over 2% of their gross to those bloodsuckers?

Nah, if the god rods wanted us dead, it wouldn't be by slowing bleeding 2% out of everyone....

what it does bring up is very interesting...what happens if they start going after people (and apparently they have been demanding to see everyone's books)...hmmm, wonder whta kind of info they could provide to the IRS? Hope everyone has their books in order......

again, I stand by my cancer prayer...hey, I got hit with cancer of the colon and look what kind of person i turned into :-)

What the fuck? You can patent CONCEPTS?

Ok, I've got a great idea. Tomorrow I'm filing a new patent for the concept of web hosting. Fuck all you other guys. You're going down!

http://www.chillingeffects.org/ecom/...?ResourceID=72

Read this link.

The author breaks down the patent (or one of them) and suggests examples of prior art.

I believe that someone claims they have a patent on "online auctions" and they are suing ebay. It's become a fucking joke.

While I'm at it, I'll patent the website, the paysite, and digitized music period.

wait... you mean it's not already a joke?

Patents weren't a (known) joke until the internet.

fuck acashit, ill get someone in poland to cash everything for me,

bring it on u fuckin fags have fun charging the son of a gov't member in poland fuckin dum asses.

FUCK ACASHIT!

You're screwed buddy, I just filed for a patent on paysite tours. Time to call up AT&T.

Oh shit....wait, before the ACACIA (in my opinion) fuckrakes get this cancer of the ass, I want to patent cancer in the colon and other areas of the anus...

Not to those of us on the receiving end of one of their greeting cards.


OK, OK, I give...it is a big fucking joke.

isnt that illegal? u cant punish someone for responding legally to a lawsuit... thats stupid... if u get sued, u take it to court... not just give in so they dont 'punish' you... wtf ??

I think it is Boneprone's finest character :)

I'm in Canada, and I even host in Canada so guess what.

FUCK YOU ACACIA!

Doesn't someone have an old BBS server sitting around somewhere from pre 1991 ? with some movies on it?
That would prove prior art - and we could really tell them to GFY
I've been searching for one - surely someone has something like that somewhere

WTF, in my opinion it is impossible to sue someone because of using zipped or downloadable files. It doesn't matter what is in these files does it? They don't own patents regarding transmitting data in general. In that case I want the patent on using TCP/IP. Can anyone explain this to me? And where can I find that patent? (whole story)

They just try to scare the shit out of us. They talk poop.

Not that I use video on my sites anyway, but I ould just put one on it for the fun. I know a good lawyer her in the Netherlands that deals with such internet cases, they will scare the shit out of them. I've the money, so sue my assholes.

...fat and livin' in Canada... lucky you! :glugglug

Why are these fags only targeting adult webmasters? Why don't they go after people like AOL/MS? They stream all sorts of shit.

Sounds like they are a bunch of desperate pussy's to me.

If I was going to internext I would beat the fuck out of each and everyone of them. I could take a night in jail and an asult ticket. It would be soooo worth it!

I'm sure someone else will though