Who do you blame for all the industry problems, if anyone?
 

No doubt IMHO the actions of several irresponsible companies created the dilemma we are in now where both Visa and MC have imposed strict 1% limits.

Some are out of the business very rich, can think of one that got nailed by ftc hard (crescent), and others that still hang around and do well.

Name names?

I won't name names, but I have a few ideas. :)

possibly the ones charging barely nothing to signup but then having multiple cross sells and end of billing the people over 100 a month.

:2 cents:

i like hamburgers.

I'm hungry.
I blame McDonalds.

A good place to start is probably to think about who had or has the highest per signup payouts.

It's funny how for so long everyone has blamed "free porn" for the surfers unwillingness to hand over their CC.

Then something like this happens, and I think it's a real wakeup call that it was certain paysites at the top setting bad examples all along that caused surfer distrust.... and now new regulations as a result of that.

As for specifics, a case could be made against many large programs. Even if they are only doing one or two shady things, it all add's up.

There is so much blame to pass around....

It would be a very long list, with many prominant "players".

Fuck the blame game. What's done is done. Let's correct it, move on, and start making more cash. That's why we're here.

Visa & Mastercard, for handing out chargebacks like they were candy.

I blame the man

me too... they should deliver.

I blame The Man :1orglaugh


Too late for blame, time for action.:2 cents:

Damn right.

TGP's with millions of free pictures and movies educated surfers to enjoy free porn. :glugglug

they do deliver, at least in big cities in ontario, canada.

but yeah i blame cross sales and shit, i never really knew about em till recently. if i was a stupid surfer i would freak too if i got billed for several sites i didn't realize i was joining.

Its all Brad Shaw's fault. Him and those hunting and fishing expeditions, and not inviting me. And I only lived 90 miles from him. God damn you

I blame slavery

Because the industry is fundamentally immoral, it attracts scumbags?

Be like everyone else here and Blame LikeWhoa.

Babenet and Python at the top of the list.

http://fnp.sexuncensored.com/bp_avs....95_Y/join.html

This says it all lol.

some I'm sure think it's you, didn't say I did.

too much free porn!!

The sex industry will always be used as a scape goat. It could be run totally clean and we would still be taboo.

That said there are a lot of dumbasses who bring unnecessary attention to the adult online world...

I blame terrorism for everything

it was either the fault of Lawrence Connor, or NecroHipHop or Deepsy....

has to be.

I personally blame lilrich4u2.

Vampires cast no reflections, they say. :Graucho

I only blame myself for my problems... after all they are MY PROBLEMS.

when you point fingers, remember that three are pointed back at yourself.

What I find funny is that over the past couple of years I have always been a very vocal advocate of ethical and fair treatment of the consumer. And what I always received back from this board was that the industry was fair...and ethical...and so on and so on.

Now, I see thread after thread saying things like "payouts will need to change due to new cc regs"...and on and on.

So, let me get this straight...nobody was ripping off anyone...but sponsors are now going to have to change the way they do business to reduce chargebacks. Hmmm...if you weren't ripping them off in the first place...why would any changes you make have an effect on chargebacks. And why would payouts have to lower.

Once again, 3 cheers for the CC industry for cleaning the scum out of this industry. And yes, a number of you are most likely reading this post right now.

I won't step on toes but they know who they are...Theres one impaticular that ALWAYS argued his business "practice" was the way it should be done...I'm sure the new regs will open his eyes and maybe shut his mouth :winkwink:


and I'm all for that new regulation BTW :2 cents:

BLAME CANADA! :glugglug

i blame porncash they ran their own merchant accounts and kept on billing surfers even if they canceled.They left with millions

I blame whitey.

There are three basic sources of problems with the industry...

1.) Too much free porn makes people think they have a "right" to porn, so they either only view the free stuff, or they steal the stuff they should pay for.

2.) Programs that have to scam in order to offer webmasters higher payouts have created an enviroment that rips off the surfer and encourages high chargebacks. (It also creates shaving.)

3.) Some webmasters (etc.) feel that they are already in an immoral line of work. As such, they give up on morality in general, leading to fraud, chargebacks, spamming, and a thug mentality not unlike the wild west.

I Blame MTV for showing videos of almost naked girls singing stuff like : "I am going to be your slave".

MTV killed the porn star.

I blame Jager for making me who i am :glugglug

I blame Al Gore. He invented the problem.