Stay Away From Wegcash
 

Some of you guys might already have heard about the controversy.

I am the webmaster they screwed up , the sum of the fraud was about 5000$ usd , for absolutely no reason, here is the complete story.

I am a Big gallery maker, I have over 4 years of credibility in the business and get over 1 mil per day on my galleries. Very possible that you guys didnt hear of me because I dont hang around on boards and dont own any big sites.

I started promoting Wegcash.com about 4 months ago and every thing was going fine until about 3 weeks ago when I got an email from GABE saying my account was cancelled without pay. I immediatelly call them and ask wassup , here is the reason they gave me for not paying me 5000$

"you are telling the surfers that they might cancel their memberships once the trial is expired".

And I admit I did. This was for the EZpass program to which I sent 10 signups 3 months ago when I was still experimenting with wegcash.

But the thing is that in the last month I sent over 4000 4free sign ups all coming from pages where I never told any user that they have the right to cancel their membership, and those are the ones they refuse to pay me.

You find this fair ? Tonda , Gabe , Jason ....you fucking find this fair ?....

The only reason you haven't heard of me for the past 2 weeks is because I was on vacation, but trust me now I just got back and I'll make sure Im the last guy you screw up like that.

This is not something you do to gallery webmasters, everyone knows how hard it is to make a buck with galleries.

Anyways, for me its no big deal, I could live without those fucking 5000$ but I'll get justice in the end, that's what matters.

FUCK WEGCASH , STAY AWAY FROM THEM ....AND MOST OF ALL DONT BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY!!!!!

When you start making money they'll fuck you....thats the only guarantee you have with them.

Peace
Brazzer

ahhh

Ok so you admit you broke a rule? If it's a rule that is. Not sure don't use them but most per trial programs don't take too kindly to telling your surfers to cancel after they sign up.

:)

Drama!

he men i got a storie for you,

i promoted them some weeks with a TGP

join 4 free program was making 50/60$ per day

and my account got Banned.

I contacted them and they had no good reason.

the checks i got where still working tough so i didnt loose any cash

but i agree they fucking suck

I love this board.

You cheated their program. You're a cheater no matter how you try to justify it. They have every right to can you and deny ALL PAYMENT.

Rule #1: Don't try cheating programs. They WILL find you.

After 4 years in this industry, I would think you already knew this.

Sly_RJ :

1. its the right of the surfer to know that they are allowed to cancel their membership after the trial is expired.

2. Its nowhere to be found in the rules that this is not allowed, in my 4 years , I've done times and times again.

3. We are talking about 5000$ legitimate dollars that they didnt pay me, you give a warning before banning a user with that much traffic.

4. Read carefully before bashing me

Peace Brazzer

Get all of your paperwork, statistics, and emails together and sue them in small claims court. If they don't show up, the judge will rule automatically against them.

When people don't pay, I sue them in small claims.

Your admitted violation is small potatoes and is not an excuse for cancellation well after the fact of the abuse. The abuse in percentages was minimal. Based on what little information you have gievn, you have a pretty good case.

Of the 5 times I have sued in small claims, 3 times the defendent didn't even show up and I got a summary judgment.

Don't post about this on any more boards, delete what you have posted, and immediately file.

5. This is intended to help other webmasters avoid to be in the situation Im in, if you feel Im wrong then dont follow my advice , thats it that's all , what they did has absolutely no justification .

Send us some Brazz, we pay 60/40 and we have a telephone and we answer it. LOL

Bastard Fucks :BangBang:

WEGCash's Terms and Conditions at http://www.wegcash.com/terms.html do not forbid you to tell the surfer that he can cancel his membership.

I'm just wondering how you expect them to stay afloat if they pay you $33 per sign up for someone that is going to sign up for a free trial then cancel before they pay anything.

I've been receiving cheques from them for a long, long time.

Maybe you have a point about that not being in the TOS, but I would expect it to be almost common sense that you shouldn't be able to market their sites like that. (telling people to cancel)

it may not be in their terms
buy you tried to fuck them

its a matter of integrity

so they fucked you back


you can either print out their terms of service and find a lawyer
or learn fron this experience.

Telling surfers that they can cancel a trial before it turns over to full membership is just educating them about the billing process.

I agree. Take them to small claims.

Common sense, yes; the same common sense should tell any per-signup program to state it in the TOS.
Besides, not paying for 10 * $33 signups is a bit different from not paying $5K, is it?

Brazzer -

You admit that you violated our terms of service. You admit that we emailed you. Here is just a section of our TOS:
"The term of this Agreement will begin upon our acceptance of your Affiliate Program Application and will end when terminated by either party. Either you or we may terminate this Agreement at any time, with or without cause, by giving the other party notice of termination. Notice by e-mail, to your e-mail address on our records, is considered sufficient notice to terminate this Agreement. If this Agreement is terminated because you have violated the terms of this Agreement you are not eligible to receive any commission?s payments, even for commissions earned prior to the date of termination."

You agreed to this when you signed up for an account with WEGCash. We did not screw anyone over all we did was follow the rules. See an additional section of our TOS:
"You may not...engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)."

Now do you think this site was following the rules?


http://www.westcoastdreams.com/content/termination1.jpg

Account Reakwon -

Your account was cancelled because you are under 18 and you told me yourself.

Thanks for playing:)

Yea you're right some webmasters have to have every hundreds of various ways to cheat posted in a TOS in huge bright red letters and also have someone call them every day to remind them of this. Almost everyone knows on per trail sign ups you can't tell surfers to cancel the trial before it ends. Just like almost everyone knows you can't tell them they will never be charged or other bullshit like that. Old tricks repeated by cheaters time and again since per sign up gotr big. This is just a common rule in per sign up. You don't see signs hanging every where you go that say don't kill people do you? You just know that if you do you are fucked.

owned

Hi,

Please signup under my referal link so I can get credit and then please cancel being billed :( LOL

Wegcash is a great company, has been for years.

peace

Todd

HAHA another unjustly ripped off cheater that never did anything wrong. HAHA Schooled.

From their terms:
You may not require a signup to any of our 4free or other sites as a condition of accessing any site or receiving any other consideration or engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)

Looks like you "engaged in any other marketing activity which is not.... made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site"

Hence a violation, hence a termination.

Why would you ever want to educate a surfer how to cancel?

Don't expect to ever promote pay per free signup programs again.

oops

drama x2

Ha. So much for small claims court.

:glugglug

I think I might just sign up with wegcash and add them to my list of sponsors, they're looking good in this thread.



It must suck to get owned as bad as some of these cheaters, crying that they aren't getting paid even though they admit to pulling stupid shit. Unreal.

What exactly was he in violation of though? What part of the terms can you say he violated? I think that's the issue.

If you are saying you've got the right to terminate the agreement at any time for any reason, and keep all payments owed, guess again.

That would never stand up in court, and in some cases it's probably illegal.

Wonder if he will be back to respond to this after getting schooled.

exactly, those programs have to make money as well. no affiliate should encourage surfers to cancel a trial membership before it rebills.

Straight from our TOS:

"You may not...engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)."

I'd say looking at the screen cap above that the part of the page that says, "cancel the membership once you're finished jerking off that way everything is free.."

breaks the hell out of this part of their tos.

You may not...engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)."

Just my :2 cents: though.

Here's what I get from that...

1) You may not tell a surfer that if he becomes a member of a Wegcash site, you'll give him access to another site too.

2) You may not coax a surfer to become a member. It must be 100% voluntary on their part.

There is nothing there having anything to do with what this guy did.

For the record, I don't agree with exactly how he did what he did.... But you should be able to educate the surfer about the billing process in general.

Listen Guys , I even warned everyone not to believe a word they say.

Tonda: I noticed that what I was doing was wrong and might have no economical value to you, and that is exactly why I STOPPED DOING IT 1 MONTH AGO !!

These pages were not sending any sign ups for the past 3 months ...and you guys waited until the account was well loaded to terminate it ?

The money you owe me has absolutely nothing to do with that SE page you just showed!!!!!!!

Furthermore, I use over 30 sponsors, do you sincerely think Im gonna hire a lawyer to explain me the TOS of everyone ?

Talk all you want and say whatever you want to say, The bottom line is ....YOU GUYS FUCKED ME AND IT WASNT A GOOD DECISION :)

Peace
Brazzer

mistake....not 1 month but 3 months ago

"You may not...engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)."


So, when do you complete law school again, I can't remember?

well i was going to jump in here and tell wegcash to payup because cancellation without pay is jacked up..... but then....


ah fuck it! keep his fuckin cash, looks to be cheating.

Wegcash is great , topnotch company