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theking 06-02-2003 02:34 AM

Bush, Putin warn Iran, N. Korea
 
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia -- U.S. President George W. Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday urged North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions and expressed concern over Iran's nuclear program.

"We strongly urge North Korea to visibly, verifiably and irreversibly dismantle its nuclear program," Bush told a joint news conference after the two leaders met privately for 45 minutes inside Konstantin Palace.

"We are concerned about Iran's advanced nuclear program and urge Iran to comply in full with its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty."

Bush said both the United States and Russia were "determined to meet the threats of weapons of mass destruction."





Same article pertaining to WMD's

When asked about the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Bush said: "We've discovered weapons systems, biological labs, that Iraq denied she had, and labs that were prohibited under the U.N. resolutions."

Earlier this weekend, Bush pointed to two mobile laboratories found in Iraq which U.S. intelligence concluded were probably designed to produce biological weapons, The Associated Press reported. However, both the Pentagon and U.S. weapons hunters have said the labs do not constitute arms.

Putin did not offer any opinion on whether weapons of mass destruction would be found in Iraq.

But British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in an interview with Sky News, said he had "no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction will be there. Absolutely."

Blair said he had already seen plenty of information that his critics had not, but would in due course.

"Over the coming weeks and months we will assemble this evidence and then we will give it to people," he said. "I have no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction will be there."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe...ope/index.html

Mr.Fiction 06-02-2003 02:36 AM

North Korea is about as scared of the US as the US is of them.

That's a stalemate.

iroc409 06-02-2003 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
North Korea is about as scared of the US as the US is of them.

That's a stalemate.


yeah, but throw in a bunch of crazy russians and you have quite the tea party :Graucho

theking 06-02-2003 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
North Korea is about as scared of the US as the US is of them.

That's a stalemate.

There is not a stalemate. The US will not allow North Korea to build a nuclear arsenal...or build ICBM's. If North Korea cannot be negotiated with...it will be delt with militarily. North Korea cannot do any harm to the Continental USA and its destructive power is pretty much limited to the Korean Peninsula.

I am satisfied that plans are in the works for a pre-emtive strike. I saw a discussion among some of the retired Generals and they all stated that a pre-emtive strike can be done and would greatly limit the destruction and loss of life that North Korea can impose. They all agreed that there would still be very significant destrcution and loss of life in South Korea.

PicturesContent 06-02-2003 02:52 AM

Never heard our President warns someone...
Fucking journalists...
Bush warns everyone, Putin just keeps silence as a normal well educated person :)

theking 06-02-2003 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PicturesContent
Never heard our President warns someone...
Fucking journalists...
Bush warns everyone, Putin just keeps silence as a normal well educated person :)

Huh?

FillmoreSlim 06-02-2003 10:14 AM

'George Bush is being childish'

War rifts cast a long shadow over the Evian meeting

Monday June 2, 2003
The Guardian

New York Times Editorial, June 1
"Never mind African development, weapons proliferation and global trade ... The reason people will be tuning into this year's G8 summit meeting in France is to see whether George [Bush] will laugh at Jacques [Chirac]'s jokes, slap Vladimir [Putin] good-naturedly on the back, or even speak to Gerhard [Schröder]. Or whether he will simply hang out with his good pal Tony [Blair] while grumbling at the others.

"Bush aides have pondered how best to punish France. Ignoring Germany while forgiving Russia is also part of the plan ... Now, even as Germany is eager to make amends, the White House seems intent on downgrading ties with Berlin. This is not in America's best interest ... President Bush should be seeking to mend these alliances ... [He] must take advantage of the Evian gathering not to hold grudges, but to move on."

Sunday Telegraph Editorial, June 1

"While Mr Bush will no doubt be polite to his French hosts, there can be little doubt that his interests are engaged elsewhere ... The shuttle diplomacy of the president and [Mr Blair] in the past few days has also shown how differently they view the world. Mr Bush is happy to work with the French - but not at any cost ... [America] is happy for European countries to assist in the multi-faceted campaign to end terrorism in the Middle East ... But that campaign is not dependent upon the approval of Mr Chirac and Mr Schröder. The prime minister, meanwhile, has spent much of his trip defending his continued enthusiasm for EU integration."

Nico Fried Süddeutsche Zeitung, Munich, June 1

"Mr Bush booked a meeting with Mr Putin and Mr Chirac during his European tour [but] Mr Schröder is not on the agenda ... But their paths might cross ... They might exchange a few words around the G8 summit table. As nothing much is expected of the conversation, the length of the meeting, the strength of the handshake and the intensity of the smile will all be factors used to measure the temperature of German-American relations.

"Mr Schröder deserves credit for making efforts to heal the rift with Washington his highest priority ... One German diplomat noted that relations 'were improving'. Only the personal relationship between the two leaders remains a problem ... The German side has made an effort ... [but] the American president is ... being childish."

Le Monde Editorial, Paris, June 1

"This G8 summit is not like the others ... This year, [it] will undertake a 'wider dialogue' with the heads of 13 African, Middle Eastern, Latin American and Asian countries, chief among them China, India, Brazil and Nigeria. This opening-up bears the stamp of Mr Chirac. Mischievous tongues claim that the president wants to 'borrow' the themes of the parallel summit on alternatives to globalisation. Other, equally wicked tongues maintain that [Mr Chirac] is seeking to isolate the US, whose relationship with France is still frosty after the the Iraq crisis. Both camps are wrong. The truth is that for a long time, Mr Chirac has held a world view that is largely devoid of the usual western ethnocentrism. That he's never managed to translate it into concrete acts is another problem altogether ...

"Still, if the G8 is about intelligent economic debate in the globalisation era, then Mr Chirac can be said to be displaying good sense and simple realism."

NBDesign 06-02-2003 10:18 AM

We're all going to die!

rooster 06-02-2003 10:22 AM

http://www.newsmax.com/weasels/98.shtml my new deck of cards

PicturesContent 06-02-2003 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Huh?

Yep.

Nothing personal. This is the way things are.

FillmoreSlim 06-02-2003 10:25 AM

Recruitment for new Iraqi military to begin by month's end, United States says

BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 2 ? Recruitment for the New Iraqi Corps, the American-installed replacement for Saddam Hussein's military, will begin by the end of the month, the U.S. civilian administrator said Monday.
L. Paul Bremer also said thousands of demobilized enlisted men from Saddam's army would be hired next week to clean up sites that would be used for the training of the new military.
The moves come more than a week after Bremer dissolved Saddam's military and, in the process, threw thousands of career soldiers out of work.
''We expect to begin recruiting members of the New Iraqi Corps before the end of this month,'' Bremer said at a news conference. ''We are looking at other ways to stimulate the economy.''
Bremer also painted a positive picture of life in the Iraqi capital, saying the city of 5 million was now receiving increasing amounts of electricity.
Security is a prime concern of the U.S.-led occupying force, and a new military would help that situation ? both by creating a homegrown security force and by taking young, out-of-work men off the streets.
An organized Iraqi military has not existed in actuality since mid-April.
Bremer repeated that officers who held the rank of colonel or above in Saddam's army would be barred from the new military.
Saddam's regular army was believed to number between 300,000 and 400,000 troops.
Most of the armed forces' manpower consisted of conscripts who served between 18 months and 2 1/2 years. But an estimated 150,000 members were officers, noncommissioned officers, professional soldiers or civilians employed by the Defense Ministry.
Bremer said he was ''fully aware'' of the difficulties facing former members of Saddam's army who are now unemployed.
''The purpose of our policy is not to punish people,'' he said.
But he stressed that while members of the former army who had no ties to the former regime would be readmitted, ''I do not expect there will be many exceptions for senior army officers.''

Nysus 06-02-2003 10:25 AM

Uhm.. Maybe they are making nuclear weapons to be able to protect themselves? Just like why the US has nuclear weapons. How about the US dismantle all of their stuff - I'm sure the world would feel much safer and less hostile towards the US.

Cheers,
Matt

NBDesign 06-02-2003 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
Uhm.. Maybe they are making nuclear weapons to be able to protect themselves? Just like why the US has nuclear weapons. How about the US dismantle all of their stuff - I'm sure the world would feel much safer and less hostile towards the US.

Cheers,
Matt

I agree... Either everyone should have them... or none of us should have them... Shit... None should have them! It does not take a brave man to push a button or pull the trigger....

Let's go back to the old days with swords and spears... those were REAL MEN! :2 cents:

ADL Colin 06-02-2003 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
Uhm.. Maybe they are making nuclear weapons to be able to protect themselves? Just like why the US has nuclear weapons. How about the US dismantle all of their stuff - I'm sure the world would feel much safer and less hostile towards the US.

Cheers,
Matt

What do you guys mean by "should"? Why should the US act in the interest of "fairness" rather than self-interest?

donnie 06-02-2003 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


There is not a stalemate. The US will not allow North Korea to build a nuclear arsenal...or build ICBM's. If North Korea cannot be negotiated with...it will be delt with militarily. North Korea cannot do any harm to the Continental USA and its destructive power is pretty much limited to the Korean Peninsula.

I am satisfied that plans are in the works for a pre-emtive strike. I saw a discussion among some of the retired Generals and they all stated that a pre-emtive strike can be done and would greatly limit the destruction and loss of life that North Korea can impose. They all agreed that there would still be very significant destrcution and loss of life in South Korea.

What about 40,000+ americans in South Korea?

mule 06-02-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


There is not a stalemate. The US will not allow North Korea to build a nuclear arsenal...or build ICBM's. If North Korea cannot be negotiated with...it will be delt with militarily. North Korea cannot do any harm to the Continental USA and its destructive power is pretty much limited to the Korean Peninsula.

I am satisfied that plans are in the works for a pre-emtive strike. I saw a discussion among some of the retired Generals and they all stated that a pre-emtive strike can be done and would greatly limit the destruction and loss of life that North Korea can impose. They all agreed that there would still be very significant destrcution and loss of life in South Korea.

preemptive
speedbump

directfiesta 06-02-2003 11:47 AM

On CCN now: "Inside the war room " .

A bunch of generals in combat attire in a room planning the invasion of Iraq...
TheKing, you should watch that : to you, it will give you a hell of a hardon... A bit a " military porn video" to you...

LOL

loverboy 06-02-2003 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
We're all going to die!
lol

SleazyDream 06-02-2003 11:52 AM

tell the north koreans we're gona install a speedbump on their major highway.

mule 06-02-2003 11:52 AM

What is Evian spelt backwards?

PicturesContent 06-02-2003 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


I agree... Either everyone should have them... or none of us should have them... Shit... None should have them! It does not take a brave man to push a button or pull the trigger....

Let's go back to the old days with swords and spears... those were REAL MEN! :2 cents:

Real Men are those with brains!
Not with weapons in every hole.
No matter what that weapons are and how many people can one kill with that weapons at a time.

theking 06-02-2003 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
On CCN now: "Inside the war room " .

A bunch of generals in combat attire in a room planning the invasion of Iraq...
TheKing, you should watch that : to you, it will give you a hell of a hardon... A bit a " military porn video" to you...

LOL

I watched it in its entirety yesterday.

theking 06-02-2003 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie


What about 40,000+ americans in South Korea?

Some will die if that is what you are asking about.

NBDesign 06-02-2003 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PicturesContent


Real Men are those with brains!
Not with weapons in every hole.
No matter what that weapons are and how many people can one kill with that weapons at a time.

So you are saying our leaders are no real men? They are the one who command the ones with the weapons.

If you are, then I agree with you. :thumbsup

volante 06-02-2003 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


There is not a stalemate. The US will not allow North Korea to build a nuclear arsenal...

Donald Rumsfeld obviously had different ideas when he was on the board of directors of the company that built a nuclear powerplant in N Korea - the same powerplant that the US is concerned will supply the weapons grade plutonium required to build such a nuclear arsenal...

Mr.Fiction 06-02-2003 01:12 PM

It is a stalemate. The U.S. is not going to do anything that's going to get 100,000 people, many of them our allies, killed.

The only way to "win" against North Korea is the same way that the U.S. "won" against Russia. Put economic and political pressure and wait for them to go broke or to have a revolution within. You know how long that took with Russia. :)

directfiesta 06-02-2003 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


I watched it in its entirety yesterday.

Jokes aside, it was interesting. I will probably catch all the upcoming segments...

theking 06-02-2003 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta


Jokes aside, it was interesting. I will probably catch all the upcoming segments...

One thing that was interesting to me is that the War Room was seconds away from being struck by an incoming missile...when a Patriot Battery took it out. This could not be reported at the time as it would have provided intel to the Iraqi's.

donnie 06-02-2003 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Some will die if that is what you are asking about.

Exacly! So why the fuck should you go to war and die beacuse of some BS reasons that idiot Bush is talkong about. N. Korea is NOT threatening USA, Iran is NOT threatening USA and Iraq wasn't threatening USA. They can't even protect them self! It is YOU and other stupid or poor people that are going to die. Bush and his family are all going to be fine and just get richer.

But I guess you are just too stupid to understand all that...

theking 06-02-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie


Exacly! So why the fuck should you go to war and die beacuse of some BS reasons that idiot Bush is talkong about. N. Korea is NOT threatening USA, Iran is NOT threatening USA and Iraq wasn't threatening USA. They can't even protect them self! It is YOU and other stupid or poor people that are going to die. Bush and his family are all going to be fine and just get richer.

But I guess you are just too stupid to understand all that...

The whole point to understand is that the USA will not allow North Korea or Iran to develop weapons and delivery systems that can be a threat to the USA...and rightfully so. FYI the Korean Conflict has not ended...only a truce was signed in 1953.

donnie 06-02-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


The whole point to understand is that the USA will not allow North Korea or Iran to develop weapons and delivery systems that can be a threat to the USA...and rightfully so. FYI the Korean Conflict has not ended...only a truce was signed in 1953.


And offcourse Bush have the "proof" that Iran and N. Korea are developing this weapons :1orglaugh
The whole point is that you and other stupid people are going to war to get killed beacuse of some rich idiot agenda.

"Fear is just like the stray, You feed it once and it is allways there..."

Serge_Oprano 06-02-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin


What do you guys mean by "should"? Why should the US act in the interest of "fairness" rather than self-interest?

Colin, asking MORONS the smart questions is NOT prudent
;-)))

theking 06-02-2003 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie



And offcourse Bush have the "proof" that Iran and N. Korea are developing this weapons :1orglaugh
The whole point is that you and other stupid people are going to war to get killed beacuse of some rich idiot agenda.

"Fear is just like the stray, You feed it once and it is allways there..."

North Korea has stated that they are producing nukes...and they have already tested short range delivery systems.

iroc409 06-02-2003 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie



And offcourse Bush have the "proof" that Iran and N. Korea are developing this weapons :1orglaugh


good god, where have you been? NK IS developing a nuclear program, and they have an untested system that could deliver a payload to washington or oregon...

donnie 06-02-2003 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


North Korea has stated that they are producing nukes...and they have already tested short range delivery systems.

yes on delivery systems, no on producing nukes. Never stated and probably never will even if they are producing them.

Fuck it. There is no point to discuss this with you...

theking 06-02-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie


yes on delivery systems, no on producing nukes. Never stated and probably never will even if they are producing them.

Fuck it. There is no point to discuss this with you...

By kid.

directfiesta 06-02-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donnie


yes on delivery systems, no on producing nukes. Never stated and probably never will even if they are producing them.

Fuck it. There is no point to discuss this with you...

Bingo! now you understand.... :thumbsup

donnie 06-02-2003 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


By kid.

By idiot

Herb Kornfield 06-02-2003 02:57 PM

Why dont we all just get along and stop the global pissing contest.

We need a nice happy cup of decaf for all........

Gutterboy 06-02-2003 03:00 PM

Why not just turn N. Korea and Iran against each other? We can hook the Shah up with a few medium range nukes & russia can do the same with Kim Jong Il.

In a couple of days you'd be able to fit the entire population of both countries into a medium sized ashtray. Problem solved.


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