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Mark 05-02-2003 03:14 AM

The big 'Does GOD exist' poll..
 
Do you believe in God? Do you follow a particular religion?

Personally I think its a load of crap, I live in the 'holy land' and there aint nothing holy about it - as far as I'm concerned religion is the root of all evil! Millions of people have been butchered over the centuries in the name of god and it still goes on today in so called modern societies.. religion is baaad mmkay?

Religion was fine for primitive man but we should be past that by now, we should know better - although I know primitive behaviour is still common on GFY ;)

If you do believe - WHY? If you do believe how do you reconcile that with your porn business??

:glugglug

Fletch XXX 05-02-2003 03:20 AM

'If there be a God, will he show himself' - Jung

;glugglug

galleryseek 05-02-2003 03:20 AM

agnostic is the only way to go.


none of us know the truth. we haven't died, therefore we don't know. to assume we're a result purely from science is stupid, and to assume a bible version of a god created us is stupid.

Pappa 05-02-2003 03:20 AM

I am god :smokin

quiet 05-02-2003 03:22 AM

before even attempting to start such a conversation, you need to have an option that includes zero religion, and nothing but God/the leap of faith.

some think that religion only serves to take you farther away from God. i'm of that point of view...

:glugglug

Mark 05-02-2003 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Pappa
I am god :smokin
Ivanova is God!

Fletch XXX 05-02-2003 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


some think that religion only serves to take you farther away from God. i'm of that point of view...

interesting.

Angelonfire 05-02-2003 03:28 AM

I do have Faith.. In who or what? not sure..
One thing I know
there is something more powerfull then man kind...

Corleone 05-02-2003 03:28 AM

belive in god or don't... but deep inside you're afraid what happends after dead ;)

boneprone 05-02-2003 03:30 AM

Jesus has blessed us all with the gift of his dialer.

Jesus Dialer.
If you cant trust Jesus who can ya trust?

Paul -C- 05-02-2003 03:30 AM

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Originally posted by Mark
as far as I'm concerned religion is the root of all evil! Millions of people have been butchered over the centuries in the name of god and it still goes on today in so called modern societies..
Word...

quiet 05-02-2003 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


interesting.

you should read some Kierkegaard. the knights of faith. the leap of faith. all religion can ever do is keep you away from your true relationship with God.

:glugglug

in some ways, this is the basis for existentialism.

BigFrog 05-02-2003 03:35 AM

i believe

Fletch XXX 05-02-2003 03:37 AM

'dont be afraid, only believe.'

quiet 05-02-2003 03:40 AM

what i hope you understand, is that religion has nothing to do with "God" (if there is one). Religion will do nothing but weaken the possiblity of a relationship with "God" if such a thing exists.

Gutterboy 05-02-2003 03:46 AM

Theistic religion is the ultimate form of idolatry.

When a Christian tells you he believes in God, all he's really doing is taking his opinion of texts he usually has no scholarly understanding of and is not qualified to translate or interpret, and deifying them.

If there really is a God, those who try to usurp it by deifying their personal jumble of predjudices, opinions and feelings have far more to fear than the non-believer.

Mark 05-02-2003 03:47 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
what i hope you understand, is that religion has nothing to do with "God" (if there is one). Religion will do nothing but weaken the possiblity of a relationship with "God" if such a thing exists.
Well I would say that religion has everything to do with god..

from the dictionary..

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

So you can't really have religion without a belief in god - however I would accept that you could believe in God without following a religion and so God can be separated from religion.

quiet 05-02-2003 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mark


Well I would say that religion has everything to do with god..

from the dictionary..

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

So you can't really have religion without a belief in god - however I would accept that you could believe in God without following a religion and so God can be separated from religion.

he quotes a fucking dictionary lol.

you don't even make a point. then you say,

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however I would accept that you could believe in God without following a religion and so God can be separated from religion.
so you dont' bother to even argue a fucking thing with me.

since there is no argument, i have nothing to say. hilarious.

Mark 05-02-2003 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

he quotes a fucking dictionary lol.


Err.. dictionary defines the meaning of a word - you have a problem with that? You said religion is nothing to do with god and its very definition quite clearly says otherwise.

chodadog 05-02-2003 04:05 AM

I was raised Catholic. I believe in god. I don't consider myself catholic, or any other kind of christian for that matter. I believe in a god. That's all i know.

theking 05-02-2003 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mark



Err.. dictionary defines the meaning of a word - you have a problem with that? You said religion is nothing to do with god and its very definition quite clearly says otherwise.

He did...and you are correct.

ADL Colin 05-02-2003 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by galleryseek
agnostic is the only way to go.

none of us know the truth. we haven't died, therefore we don't know. to assume we're a result purely from science is stupid, and to assume a bible version of a god created us is stupid.

Bullshit! You're a pussy and afraid to admit you're an atheist. Step up. Go all the way, man.

theking 05-02-2003 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
I was raised Catholic. I believe in god. I don't consider myself catholic, or any other kind of christian for that matter. I believe in a god. That's all i know.
Care to elaborate as to why you "believe" in god...and which god?

Gutterboy 05-02-2003 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Mark
Err.. dictionary defines the meaning of a word - you have a problem with that? You said religion is nothing to do with god and its very definition quite clearly says otherwise.
No they don't. Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. They describe how words are used most commonly, not how words should be used in different contexts.

The dictionary definition of the word "theory", for example, is meaningless when you're speaking of scientific theories.

theking 05-02-2003 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy


No they don't. Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. They describe how words are used most commonly, not how words should be used in different contexts.

The dictionary definition of the word "theory", for example, is meaningless when you're speaking of scientific theories.

Care to elaborate as to why theory does not mean theory in a scientific context?

quiet 05-02-2003 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by Mark



Err.. dictionary defines the meaning of a word - you have a problem with that? You said religion is nothing to do with god and its very definition quite clearly says otherwise.

what are you smoking? I'm saying that God has nothing to do with religion, which you already admitted was possible.

I can quote dictionary terms with you all day.

So other than to say that relgion likes to tie itself to God (DUH), you have nothing to say about my original point. This was obvious, since you used a lame dictionary quote, and you also agreed with me on the major point of my post.

It's like arguing with... out an argument.

Gutterboy 05-02-2003 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by theking


Care to elaborate as to why theory does not mean theory in a scientific context?

The dictionary definition of the word theory describes its most common usage. Meaning if you asked 100 people on the street to define the word "theory", the vast majority would give you a definition similar to "an educated guess"

A decent scientific theory needs to meet qualifications of falsifiability, predictability and explanatory power.. its anything but an educated guess.

So the dictionary describes how the word theory is commonly used, it doesn't prescribe how it should be used in a given context.

Mark 05-02-2003 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


what are you smoking? I'm saying that God has nothing to do with religion, which you already admitted was possible.

I can quote dictionary terms with you all day.

So other than to say that relgion likes to tie itself to go God (DUH), you have nothing to say about my original point. This was obvious, since you used a lame dictionary quote, and you also agreed with me on the major point of my post.

It's like arguing with... out an argument.

You seem to have a problem when I agree with your point as well as when I disagree.. very odd. Not that I care either way so keep up the good fight.

quiet 05-02-2003 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by Mark


You seem to have a problem when I agree with your point as well as when I disagree.. very odd. Not that I care either way so keep up the good fight.

you never argued anything. cop out. lol.

cheers :glugglug

theking 05-02-2003 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy


The dictionary definition of the word theory describes its most common usage. Meaning if you asked 100 people on the street to define the word "theory", the vast majority would give you a definition similar to "an educated guess"

A decent scientific theory needs to meet qualifications of falsifiability, predictability and explanatory power.. its anything but an educated guess.

So the dictionary describes how the word theory is commonly used, it doesn't prescribe how it should be used in a given context.

Well...a scientific theory...while having to meet criteria...and is sometimes even accepted as fact...is still just theory...but granted it is more potent than common usage of theory.

theking 05-02-2003 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


you never argued anything. cop out. lol.

cheers :glugglug

You said "...religion has nothing to do with "God"..." and he corrected you. The Christian religion of course has everything to do with God.

quiet 05-02-2003 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by theking


You said "...religion has nothing to do with "God"..." and he corrected you. The Christian religion of course has everything to do with God.

religion has nothing to do with God. religion loves to tie itself to God (infact that's the driving point). Bu that does not mean it they have anything to do with each other.

we can watch 20 channels with preachers all spouting their thoughts on God. it doesn't mean a fucking thing.

theking 05-02-2003 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


religion has nothing to do with God. religion loves to tie itself to God (infact that's the driving point). Bu that does not mean it they have anything to do with each other.

we can watch 20 channels with preachers all spouting their thoughts on God. it doesn't mean a fucking thing.

The Christian religion has everything to do with God and a specific God...the God of whatever Bible that they choose to use...that is of course what defines the religion. I assume what you are trying to say is that if there is a God that God does not necessarily have anything to do with religious organizations or denominations...but of course that is based upon your own individual perception/belief.

quiet 05-02-2003 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by theking


The Christian religion has everything to do with God and a specific God...the God of whatever Bible that they choose to use...that is of course what defines the religion. I assume what you are trying to say is that if there is a God that God does not necessarily have anything to do with religious organizations or denominations...but of course that is based upon your own individual perception/belief.

no it doesn't. religion is organization. it has nothing to do with God. no matter how much you'd like it to. religion/organization is the antithesis of a relation to God.

abraham, et al, (huge Christians) all admitted this. Abraham sacrificed his son for God, based purely on faith. Only by faith did he get everything back.

anyway, everyone thinks what they like (including me)...

sacX 05-02-2003 05:14 AM

i don't believe in God, just really due to lack of evidence of existence. Studied too much science in my time. Of course you can argue just as nicely that there's no evidence he doesn't exist.
But umm yeah common sense :).

To believe in God you take a 'leap of faith', which I can't rationally take.

AWW - Kevin 05-02-2003 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


anyway, everyone thinks what they like (including me)...

i'll drink to that http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/images...2drinkspit.gif

chodadog 05-02-2003 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by theking


Care to elaborate as to why you "believe" in god...and which god?

Hmm, not really. I just do. I guess it appeals to me. That, and it just makes more sense to me.

titmowse 05-02-2003 06:38 AM

I believe in BOB

Martin 05-02-2003 06:39 AM

Who do you believe in?
I put my faith in God
Blessed and still breathing
And even though it's hard
That's who I believe in
Before I'm leaving
I'm asking the grieving
Who do you believe in?

X37375787 05-02-2003 06:39 AM

fear is your only god


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