Thousands sign petition askingTrump to let white farmers in South Africa migrate to U.S.
 

Let's hope Trump does the right thing :thumbsup

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More than 10,500 people have signed a petition asking President Donald Trump to let white people in South Africa emigrate to the U.S. after the country voted to strip white farmers of their land without compensation.

The petition calls on the U.S. leader to "take the steps necessary to initiate an emergency immigration plan allowing white Boers to come to the United States." Boer is the term used to describe South Africans of Dutch, German or Huguenot descent, who are also commonly referred to as Afrikaners.

The petition suggests that Trump should stop admitting refugees from Somalia and the Middle East, claiming they "cannot be properly vetted," and allow white South Africans into the country instead. They "can be easily vetted and also possess skills that make them compatible with our culture and civilization," the petition says.


A similar petition, calling on European Union President Jean-Claude Juncker, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Theresa May to allow white South Africans into EU countries, has gained nearly 17,000 signatures.

South Africa's parliament voted to remove white South African farmers from their land in a landmark vote on Tuesday. In addition, the country's constitution could be amended to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without any offer of compensation.

Lawmakers voted overwhelmingly in favor of seeing land stripped from white farm owners, with the motion passing 241-83, according to News.com.au.

The move was a key part of recently elected President Cyril Ramaphosa's platform. Ramaphosa, who has long supported Nelson Mandela's vision for South Africa, took office last month, replacing former President Jacob Zuma.

More than two decades after white-minority rule came to an end in South Africa, most of the country's profitable farming land is owned by white residents. A recent land audit conducted by Agri SA, a South African agricultural industry association, found that white farmers still control 73 percent of the country's profitable farming land.

Agri SA expressed concerns over the parliament vote, saying that while it "fully understands the need for land reform and the frustration with the apparent slow process and is committed to orderly and sustainable land reform...politics and emotion dominated the debate."

Dan Kriek, Agri SA?s president, warned that the rights of all property owners in South Africa were at stake. He said that amending the country's constitution property clause would be a step backward into a past where the protection of property rights was not applied across the board.

Ramaphosa urged people in South Africa not to panic over the results of the vote.

South Africa's Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs Department echoed that sentiment in a series of tweets. "This is a serious matter. It'll be handled through dialogue and in a stable manner. No need for beating war drums and creating unnecessary panic! South Africa belongs to all who live in it!" the CGTA wrote.

"As we address the land issue, we'll ensure that equitable land is distributed to our poor people in a way that will ensure continued stability," the CGTA added.

Earlier, the department had tweeted, "Land is our heritage, our identity and essentially our dignity. We owe it to our children to dispel the myth that Africans are not interested in commercial farming."

"We'll continue to help improve the lives of South Africans through making tough decisions. This is a moment where we all need to rise and tackle this issue and emerge victorious," the CGTA added, including the hashtag "#LandExpropriation."

Julius Malema, the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters opposition party, introduced the motion. He said the time for reconciliation in South Africa "is over," News.com.au reported. "Now is the time for justice," he said, adding, "We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land."

Malema has been a strong supporter of confiscating land from white farmers, saying in 2016 he was "not calling for the slaughter of white people?at least for now."

The creators of the petition demanding that Trump admit white South Africans into the U.S. as refugees claim that the "increasing murder rate, along with the campaign to dispossess whites of their history, culture, farms, property and jobs, will inevitably lead to a complete genocide of South Africa's white population" if the U.S. does not "intercede."

Related: Zuma?s reign in South Africa is over?but what's next for the country?

In October last year, thousands of predominantly white protesters took to the streets throughout South Africa to protest a string of deadly attacks in rural areas of the country. Protesters claimed that farmers were more likely to be murdered than the average South African, with some claiming that the attacks were racially motivated.

An investigation by the BBC last November determined that the claim that farmers are more likely to be murdered than the average South African "is not supported by reliable data."

The BBC found that farm murders in South Africa are at their highest level since 2010-11. The country's police service says 74 people were murdered on farms between April 2016 and March 2017, compared with 58 in the previous year. Those numbers, however, reflect the number of murdered farmers, farmworkers and visitors to farms regardless of race, the BBC notes.

It is unclear where people who are signing the petitions on Change.org are based. Signatories cite fears of a "white genocide" as their reason for signing, while others appeared to express sentiments aligned with white supremacy.

"I have family in South Africa who only want a safe place to live where the colour of their skin doesn't mean their lives are at risk on a daily basis [just] because of hatred based on past historical events," wrote Justine Beaumont.

"This is the most blatant case of genocide in the world," wrote another person, identified as Bear Haltman. "Ignored by racists because they are white people."

"I care about white genocide in South Africa," another wrote. "We must secure the existence of our people a future for White children."

A spokesperson for Change.org told Newsweek it would look into whether the petitions violate any company policies and whether the website plans to take any action.


Thousands Sign Petition Asking Trump to Let White Farmers in South Africa Migrate to U.S. After Country Votes to Force Them Off Land

Vladimir thanks you for your service Boris

Just signed :thumbsup

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Sorry cupcake but I am not :321GFY

So basically... No one is signing the petition?

If people were really behind us, this would't millions of people have signed it?

Good shit :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

wat?

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If this somehow passes, and they bring them in - they're going to be African-Americans :1orglaugh

Oh, the confusion!! Will the white Afro-Americans be able to call each other the N-word as a term of endearment, too?

Migration needs to be controlled. That means the same rules for people whatever the colour of their skin. SA farmers have had it good ever since they took over the land and now expect to be taken in by the West.

Will SA farms in the hands of Black Africans produce as much food as they do now? Could we see another Zimbabwe?

Reality check re SA.. this is what you will get..




White trash South Africans and White trash Americans are very similar, but don't for a second thing you are getting hard working farming folk.. Blackies do all that for them.

This looks like you just cherry picked a group of gypsies :2 cents:

Looks like it doesn't it, but reality is 20% of whities there live under poverty line and mostly in trailer parks. Do your own research...

I?m ok with that. Rather bring in poor whites than middle eastern muslims.

Possibly because they were forced out of the cities?

To bad they live in a shit hole country

Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as 'shithole' countries ...

Maybe Chump can offer a couple of them low paying jobs and his golf clubs or have them breed with the chumpanzees on this board to improve the chumpanzees gene pool(probably a no go as he likes them uneducated and stupid)

oh noooo what an injustice! the white man robbed the black man blind in africa and now has to give back land :mad::mad::mad:

9% of the white population control only 73% of the farmland :mad::mad::mad:

what an injustice, dont the know the whitey is the eternal dindu nuffin? :mad::mad::mad:

its a good thing africa is in debt to the west after centuries of the west exploiting them tho :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup fair is fair :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Post the clip of him saying shithole.

All he did was bait CNN into saying it on TV a few hundred times- in violation of FCC regulations. You people are so gullible :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You know all this already happened once before, right? It didn't work out so great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe

Don't need a clip. You are such a mindless sheep!

Fellow South Carolina GOP Sen. Tim Scott said Graham confirmed to him the President made the remark, telling The Post and Courier of Charleston, S.C., that Graham said the comments being reported in the media were "basically accurate."

the problem with zimbabwe was the wrong people getting control of the seized land...when you hold a region in slavery for centuries you deprive the local population of centuries of knowledge and wealth accumulation and this inevitably leads to weak political and social structures when the oppressors get thrown out...

it will take them centuries to recover but they will get there eventually...recovery does not start with white farmers getting to keep the best agricultural land that they seized during the centuries of robbery while black men are landless...

the white man in a nutshell: "if only those pesky africans would remain in africa and just die and not want their own land either but leave it to the white man...and just die" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The situation is a lot more complex.

This farmland did not exist before the white settlers created it from bush and scrub.

It is not as though the local blacks were running industrial intensive farming operations and had their land stolen. Much of the land was uninhabited before white settlement, and where there were existing people they lived a semi-nomadic subsistence existence.

However if you have ever been to South Africa and witnessed how millions of blacks live, then you would agree that some re-allocation of natural resources needs to take place.

But this plan is wrong on many levels, and it is unlikely to achieve anything other than a destruction of asset value and an economic catastrophe.

Very sad.

Convince me of your point of view, i'll try to convince you of mine. :thumbsup

So,

Conquered people lose their lands. This has been the case since time forgotten. Poland, Czech, Ukraine, Russia, etc were all long ago inhabited by Slavic tribes. These tribes grew, turned into villages, turned into towns, turned into kingdoms. Kings conquered each other, bestowed land on nobles. Nobles bestowed land on others. Those kingdoms again got conquered, land was given to other people, rinse, repeat - all the way to WW2 where half of Ukraine used to be Poland and half of Poland used to be Germany.

So with this kept in mind:
- How far back do you go with claims to land? Should half of Asia & Europe turn back into the USSR? Should we give half of europe to Rome? Should we split it based on tribes from 2000 years ago?
- The UN made a resolution about the above called Right of Conquest. This is addressed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_conquest. South Africa is a member of the UN, therefor, it must be recognized that these are now "white lands" lest we fall into the issue above.
- By the same reasoning, if you ignore right of conquest and insist on it being black lands - then you must agree that there can't be any land reparations from WW2, since the area was originally slavic and germanic tribes.
- If Africa is "black lands", why can't Europe be "White Lands"? Why must europe be multicultural, but Africa - even that one country that has any significant number of white people - not be?
- If you say ok, give the land back to blacks - which blacks? There were hundreds of tribes fighting over those lands for millennia before the white man colonized it.
- It is not said that Africa would have been better off technologically, socially, etc. Even back in Roman times, European civilization was well ahead of Subsaharan africans (not talking about egypt etc - those are arabs). They brought alot of technology, farming, etc. There is no guarantee that it would have looked like that black panther movie had the whites not came in and "raped africa".
- How do you know it's the "right people" taking over RSA now?

they literally stripped black people from their right to own property when they came, those same black people obviously had farmland because they needed to eat something...as for creating new farmland, with black slaves, kinda gives the blacks the right to that land...its not like the white colonialists whipped out a magic wand and bush became land all of a sudden...

even if africans at the time lived like nomads, slavery changed that and the blood sweat and tears of the black man built that new farmland...

I think white people in SA control like 95% of the wealth even today...this has to change...and there is no pretty solution to it...

If the someone was able to come with a few boats and so easily enslave a native population (that was in *much* greater numbers then them - it's not like 90% of the dutch population suddenly floated there), then this suggests that the natives were significantly less developed. They were less developed during roman times, they were less developed during the middle ages, and they were less developed in the 1700 or 1800s or whenever the dutch invaded. It could be assumed that left to their own devices they would again not have advanced forward in farming, weapons, social, economy, government without that colonization.

the right of conquest was written by conquerors...how convenient eh?

look 95% of the wealth in SA is controlled by whites...now you have 2 possible options:

1) status quo...the 90% of the population can str8 go fuck themselves...
2) a fairer system should be put in place...

europe can not be compared to africa because land ownership is more evenly distributed...jobs and industry are more developed...a person in europe can find a job and not rely on farm land...in africa this is not so...

africa was raped dry but white people...white culture grew, white science grew, white trade grew, white markets grew and white people accumulated wealth and industry at the great expense of the exploited...europe is a different world thanks to this...

there is no magic solution but the situation in south africa is a joke...something has to be done or it will only get worse...the majority of any country has the right to its own resources...

1) being more powerful does not give you the right to steal and enslave
2) people in africa are under no obligation whatsoever to compete with the west or anybody else...freedom entails being able to live your life freely and as you see fit...if they want to live as nomads it is their right

Why can Africa not be compared to Europe? It's exactly the same thing. If you decide who lands belong to based on who original owned them then where do you stop? If you go down that rabbit hole then you'd have to go through thousands and thousands of years of land claims. You are saying to give it "back to the people" but there are dozens of "peoples" in south africa. There's 10 other official languages besides english - that's alot of ethnicities and descendants of alot of tribes. It's not exactly "unified" as you have with countries in Europe.

I will agree with you on the first point - it doesn't give the right, but people have been doing it since the first cave got taken over by someone else, but it was happening in Africa for thousands of years before the white man even knew it was there. The only difference is when the white man came, he was MUCH more powerful and it was guns vs spears.

I will completely agree with you on the second point - it is not said that what we view as some super backwards people living in huts made of mud and shit in a desert aren't happier then us - they very may well be. I have tons of stress from life and business, maybe they fuck all day, then go lion hunting and feel like real men, it might be a great life. On the other hand, it's also entirely possible that if it wasn't for agricultural advances like irrigation and other farming methods brought by the white invaders that 90% of those people wouldn't have died of starvation due to droughts and whatnot. Imagine if they didn't have the invention of the plow? Making farming easier and more productive allowed population to grow.

the majority, no matter how many languages they speak, have the right to their own resources, especially if said resources were gained by the blood sweat and tears of the majority but the resources are owned by the exploiting minority...

europe and africa are not the exact same thing:

do foreign invaders from another continent own 95% of the wealth in your country?
do foreign invaders from another continent own 70%+ of your farmland?

Boris Brejcha Is Good stuff :pimp

Did not kown you guys was having a Russian wanabe Tiesto :1orglaugh

But Tiesto is still THE KING.

slippery slope argument..."if the west did not invade they would die from hunger"...also farming was made more productive and easy by means of enslaving the black man...for example hands were cut off if production quotas were not met...this makes farming real easy

father watches foot and hand of son cut off because of production quotas:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zmkwtfcAL...hands_1904.jpg

meanwhile in the west, one billion people will die from tobacco in this century alone (WHO claims this not me), alcohol/war/obesity/drugs/stress will kill off further billions in this century...

every system has its pros and cons...

It is ok because the leader is not calling for the slaughter of white people YET!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llP1...utu.be&t=1m25s

Belgian Congo :2 cents:

He is German actually

The slave became effectively redundant with the invention of the internal combustion engine. Should these people be paying for the crimes of 300 years ago?

it was not peaches and roses in other places in africa...

farming is super hard work, plowing the ground with a tractor is just a small part...the rest can not be automated...I know because I own commercial greenhouses...also theres the small issue that apartheid ended in 91...until then blacks were not allowed to own land...

the problem is the white man is never ever guilty of anything...the blacks should stay in africa and not come to europe, also they should leave the whites who hold the majority of their resources and land alone in africa :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

come on man...wrong is wrong, regardless of when it happened...blacks have rights to their own land...the white man has to pay at some point in time...