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incredibleworkethic 10-10-2017 11:58 AM

Will Big Cam Companies Offer VR In The Future?
 
Curious! As VR becomes more popular, imagine sitting there with a headset "with the cam girl".

The other thread touched on VR cams so I just wanted to find out what you guys thought or know?:thumbsup

Regular cams will always be good but VR might be interesting ...

pimpmaster9000 10-10-2017 12:02 PM

Upload is a problem...few girls have the necessary upload...

NewNick 10-10-2017 12:08 PM

They will, but not for a few years.

C H R I S 10-10-2017 12:20 PM

Cam4VR?

8char

incredibleworkethic 10-10-2017 12:27 PM

Just registered a domain, guess better be early than late!

OneMillionGirls 10-10-2017 12:29 PM

i hope so too

Matt 26z 10-10-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic (Post 22031741)
Curious! As VR becomes more popular

VR is almost dead. Anything left of it is for the occasional novelty factor rather than daily use.

The potential seemed to be there in 2015 and 2016, but the consumer excitement fizzled out in 2017 as hype wore thin and the actual content was expected to carry the tech moving forward, but was unable to.

I put a big part of the blame on YouTube's failure to monetize VR videos. The people capable of creating decent content for it aren't going to do it when there is no money to be made at the most likely venue for it.

....... And thus a problem for XXX VR as few people have the headsets.

hausarzt 10-10-2017 02:24 PM

I think argumented reality will be the next big thing.
Maybe they will call it VR ("hoverboards") when the real VR is dead once.

sadiedazzle 10-10-2017 07:27 PM

I don't know what you're taking about. We are rocking with https://www.stockingsvr.com. Customers love the experience.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031821)
VR is almost dead. Anything left of it is for the occasional novelty factor rather than daily use.

The potential seemed to be there in 2015 and 2016, but the consumer excitement fizzled out in 2017 as hype wore thin and the actual content was expected to carry the tech moving forward, but was unable to.

I put a big part of the blame on YouTube's failure to monetize VR videos. The people capable of creating decent content for it aren't going to do it when there is no money to be made at the most likely venue for it.

....... And thus a problem for XXX VR as few people have the headsets.


kane 10-10-2017 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadiedazzle (Post 22032169)
I don't know what you're taking about. We are rocking with https://www.stockingsvr.com. Customers love the experience.

You guys make some nice content.

kane 10-10-2017 07:41 PM

We will likely have VR streaming webcams at some point in the near future. Bandwidth may be a problem for those living in areas where upload speeds are still a little on the slow side, but I wouldn't be shocked if we start seeing some webcam live VR feeds popping up in the next few years.

Bladewire 10-10-2017 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadiedazzle (Post 22032169)
I don't know what you're taking about. We are rocking with https://www.stockingsvr.com. Customers love the experience.

He's an alt-right nic on GFY that has no knowledge or expertise about the adult industry whatsoever. Ignore him

Barry-xlovecam 10-10-2017 08:06 PM

I think VR webcams happen it will for reason of economic value.
That is not there now.

Konda 10-10-2017 08:44 PM

How can the guy type to the girl if he wears a headset?

Also many cam girls are in third world countries where they don't have enough bandwidth to make it work.

It won't get popular, maybe AR in the feature, but VR no, it's too small of a niche

Marshal 10-10-2017 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hausarzt (Post 22031907)
I think argumented reality will be the next big thing.
Maybe they will call it VR ("hoverboards") when the real VR is dead once.

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There's already such thing as AR on mobile phones. But probably in future with some sort of glasses with enhanced batteries (unlike now), internet connection and stronger CPUs, AR might become a widespread thing. Something like Google glasses were intended to be. Let's wait and see.

Barry-xlovecam 10-10-2017 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 22032231)
How can the guy type to the girl if he wears a headset?

Also many cam girls are in third world countries where they don't have enough bandwidth to make it work.

It won't get popular, maybe AR in the feature, but VR no, it's too small of a niche

Romania has cheap fiber internet with much higher bandwidth than most locations in the USA. That statement may be true in Moldova or some backward county in Eastern Europe. If you ever wondered why so much of the cam model pool is located in Romania, Bucharest and Constanta, that is one primary reason why.

Ever heard of voice to text? They have that now in chats. Voice chat (as opposed to videoconferencing) has been around for years.

Will guys (others) pay for immersive VR sex? Probably, but I think they will be few in number. As a global market metric VR webcams may not be that viable. IMO anyway -- we will see I guess.

5G service is also coming to mobile devices -- that may be a growth factor too on the consumer end.

kane 10-10-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 22032231)
How can the guy type to the girl if he wears a headset?

Also many cam girls are in third world countries where they don't have enough bandwidth to make it work.

It won't get popular, maybe AR in the feature, but VR no, it's too small of a niche

In a perfect world, you wouldn't type, you would talk. The camgirl would have a VR webcam and the guy would wear his viewer with a microphone. I supposed he could have a cam too if they wanted to do cam to cam type stuff. He could speak directly to her.

CamsEtc 10-10-2017 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22031747)
Upload is a problem...few girls have the necessary upload...

not an issue in Romania:winkwink::winkwink: we've got upload to burn

beavr 10-11-2017 03:16 AM

I've talked to a few big cams. They seem to be very reluctant about it. AliceX who have been doing it for quite a while is no longer operating VR

k0nr4d 10-11-2017 03:56 AM

I saw a VR webcam setup at the prague show but it's 1/4th of the puzzle. You need a player for it on the client end that supports rtc or hls (with hls having mega lag), you need transcoding on the server end (and see how much resources it takes to transcode even a single 3k or 4k video stream at once), etc.

pimpmaster9000 10-11-2017 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamsEtc (Post 22032291)
not an issue in Romania:winkwink::winkwink: we've got upload to burn


streaming vr at 720p takes around 50mbps...4K would be 10x that...now the average US household has like 10mbps upload...this will be a problem because for the tech to take off you would have to have lots of models from around the world and not just from some parts of the world...also streaming for a few seconds at 50mbps is one thing, but streaming continuously for a longer period of time, without lag or choppy video is completely another...this is not taking in to account the logistics of the VR platform that would have to process 100-s of models streaming at once...

maybe they will solve it with better compression but for now the infrastructure is simply not up to par...

lock 10-11-2017 05:12 AM

When bandwidth isn't the priority of internet billing. When TB's a month is a possibility in every lounge room you will.

Paul Markham 10-11-2017 06:16 AM

If no one is doing by now. It's not likely to happen.

INever 10-11-2017 08:17 AM

I know someone who claims he's sold about 1000 VR cock machines. Camgirls will wear these strap ons. Haven't seen the demos but he's at some of the VR shows. 1000 x $300(?guessing) is $300,000 so the margins on hardware are there....

Barry-xlovecam 10-11-2017 09:19 AM

I think the overall concept of total immersion (or *virtual* reality) is good.
Current economic reality is the problem.
I liked cam4's emulation on a PC or mobile device that is currently in use -- not the real thing *VR* but something economically marketable right now.

k0nr4d 10-11-2017 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22032533)
streaming vr at 720p takes around 50mbps

What? Streaming at 720p wouldn't even take 5mbits let alone 50

Hannes 10-11-2017 10:20 AM

they will, I think most industries will start with VR eventually

celandina 10-11-2017 10:21 AM

VR for porn ? Same as 3D or "Smelorama" in movies....A fad :2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 10-11-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22032881)
What? Streaming at 720p wouldn't even take 5mbits let alone 50

I was reading an article about VR gaming they describe it here:

ARRIS Gives Us a Hint of the Bandwidth Requirements for VR - The Online Reporter

I do not claim to be an expert on VR but I do not think 5mbps will cut it...

vidvicious 10-11-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic (Post 22031741)
Curious! As VR becomes more popular, imagine sitting there with a headset "with the cam girl".

The other thread touched on VR cams so I just wanted to find out what you guys thought or know?:thumbsup

Regular cams will always be good but VR might be interesting ...


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vidvicious 10-11-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22032533)
streaming vr at 720p takes around 50mbps...4K would be 10x that...now the average US household has like 10mbps upload...this will be a problem because for the tech to take off you would have to have lots of models from around the world and not just from some parts of the world...also streaming for a few seconds at 50mbps is one thing, but streaming continuously for a longer period of time, without lag or choppy video is completely another...this is not taking in to account the logistics of the VR platform that would have to process 100-s of models streaming at once...

maybe they will solve it with better compression but for now the infrastructure is simply not up to par...

We are able to stream 3K VR with 5 mbs .. and our 4K camera streams with 10 mbs

Terpon VR Webcams - Virtual Reality Cam Shows - Cameras - 4K 3D VR - Terpon.com

vidvicious 10-11-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22032193)
We will likely have VR streaming webcams at some point in the near future. Bandwidth may be a problem for those living in areas where upload speeds are still a little on the slow side, but I wouldn't be shocked if we start seeing some webcam live VR feeds popping up in the next few years.

Earlier then that .. already some Platforms have started intergrading a VR player .. some will be with the aid of Apps while others I know of have already a working model in HTML5... but your right only time will tell .. VR live streaming cams world wide is coming as quickly as this christmas.

Terpon is already started delivery of it's 3K Hermes Webcams to studio, platforms, software developers and independent models .. get ready for the future in Camming

Terpon VR Webcams - Virtual Reality Cam Shows - Cameras - 4K 3D VR - Terpon.com

JC Artonne 10-11-2017 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22032501)
I saw a VR webcam setup at the prague show but it's 1/4th of the puzzle. You need a player for it on the client end that supports rtc or hls (with hls having mega lag), you need transcoding on the server end (and see how much resources it takes to transcode even a single 3k or 4k video stream at once), etc.

Tanks for noticing our cameras ;)

Several viewers exist (even pure HTML5), encoding is working well, we can push on 3 to 5mbps 3K good quality videos, and are now at final test phase of a server solution (not only for VR) that reduce latency to almost nothing in bidirectional communication (time for the signal to travel) - This has already approved in UK for remote surgery!

And all of that works on any i5-i7 computer as long you can plug the USB3 (no need of special software), and can go through 4G without any issue.

All of that very soon available on several cam sites.

Stay tune!:thumbsup

JC Artonne 10-11-2017 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22032533)
streaming vr at 720p takes around 50mbps...4K would be 10x that...now the average US household has like 10mbps upload...this will be a problem because for the tech to take off you would have to have lots of models from around the world and not just from some parts of the world...also streaming for a few seconds at 50mbps is one thing, but streaming continuously for a longer period of time, without lag or choppy video is completely another...this is not taking in to account the logistics of the VR platform that would have to process 100-s of models streaming at once...

maybe they will solve it with better compression but for now the infrastructure is simply not up to par...

3 to 5mbps is working perfectly for 3k

kane 10-11-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidvicious (Post 22033103)
Earlier then that .. already some Platforms have started intergrading a VR player .. some will be with the aid of Apps while others I know of have already a working model in HTML5... but your right only time will tell .. VR live streaming cams world wide is coming as quickly as this christmas.

Terpon is already started delivery of it's 3K Hermes Webcams to studio, platforms, software developers and independent models .. get ready for the future in Camming

Terpon VR Webcams - Virtual Reality Cam Shows - Cameras - 4K 3D VR - Terpon.com

Very cool stuff. Thanks for the info.

DiveAsia 10-11-2017 11:05 PM

I think it is in it's infancy and will take off when it becomes more affordable for the average consumer.
I also see more people asking me to help them promote their VR sites via twitter. Which I am happy to do as many of my followers are from Japan and always into the latest tech.

:thumbsup

vidvicious 10-12-2017 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiveAsia (Post 22033613)
I think it is in it's infancy and will take off when it becomes more affordable for the average consumer.
I also see more people asking me to help them promote their VR sites via twitter. Which I am happy to do as many of my followers are from Japan and always into the latest tech.

:thumbsup

your comment would of been true, last year. VR is actually more engaging then it was a year ago .. and is on a steady rise, as VR headsets are getting more user friendly and less expensive, Oculus announced just yesterday it's newest pair of stand alone Headsets called GO, and is expected to retail at 199$... No need for a mobile phone, so your mom won't be texting you in the middle of a VR session.
For more info on the steady rise in VR over several different platforms, read this article : https://uploadvr.com/vr-social-editorial/

Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2017 08:34 AM

So how much are these VR cameras -- bought outright?

If they are more that twice the price of a good camera currently in use ... good luck selling any.

vidvicious 10-12-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22034123)
So how much are these VR cameras -- bought outright?

If they are more that twice the price of a good camera currently in use ... good luck selling any.

Since these cameras are designed specifically for cam models, they are not for sale but rather on a rental basis, allowing for upgrades at no extra cost to the user

Fat Panda 10-12-2017 09:41 AM

vr is fucking stupid and pointless

will never reach terminal velocity


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