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OneHungLo 02-12-2017 03:07 PM

What Do Europeans Think About Muslim Immigration?
 
Looks like there are a lot of racists and bigots in Europe :1orglaugh


http://i.imgur.com/44JzMop.png

In our survey, carried out before President Trump?s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ?All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped?. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.

Majorities in all but two of the ten states agreed, ranging from 71% in Poland, 65% in Austria, 53% in Germany and 51% in Italy to 47% in the United Kingdom and 41% in Spain. In no country did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32%.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/...im-immigration

SpicyM 02-12-2017 03:11 PM

Bladewire only likes atheist muslims

Bladewire 02-12-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 21538660)
Bladewire only likes atheist muslims

Lies. Don't talk behind my back sneaky SpicyM. :disgust

DraX 02-12-2017 05:09 PM

If EU politics continue being pro immigration from the middle east they will get surprises over surprises by the european people with reactions. it's just a matter of time.

Brexit was one reaction.

Fuck with people long enough, one day people bite back.

More to follow.

pimpmaster9000 02-12-2017 06:07 PM

100% of those refugees think europe should not eat US foreign policy asshole no more...

k0nr4d 02-13-2017 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21538654)

Go Poland! We're finally #1 in Europe for something! :1orglaugh

k0nr4d 02-13-2017 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21539248)
100% of those refugees think europe should not eat US foreign policy asshole no more...

I imagine this includes the 80% that aren't actually coming from war zones?

Paul Markham 02-13-2017 01:08 AM

It has very little to do with racism. It's about finances, culture, resources, and standards of living.

Most Europeans are worse off financially than they were 10 or 20 years ago. Fewer jobs, Lower Wages, Unemployment and a far worse future if Europe stays on its present course.

The mass influx of a culture that will never integrate has changed many areas in Europe.

In many countries resources like Homes, Healthcare, Education, Security are getting far worse and without people paying a lot more in taxes. They will get worse.

All these have caused Standards of Living to drop.

No one complains if a Muslim Surgeon, Scientist, Businessman comes. The problem is the vast majority are only able to take a low skilled job if any job at all. Unemployment, low wages, employed in low-skilled jobs among migrants is at an all time high. The highest percentile of those are Muslims.

But the lib, PC, be nice to everyone else, Governments ignore their own citizens because of the colour, religion of migrants. We now have reverse racism. Black Brits are the worse off and the UK owes them more than future migrants.

So stick your racist chants up your ass.

Paul Markham 02-13-2017 01:15 AM

http://i.imgur.com/44JzMop.png

The ratios are clear.

The top 15% are in favour of more migrants. The next 25% have not decided. The rest, 60%, are suffering from mass migration.

This very much reflects earnings over the last 20-30 years. This is what the EU has delivered for most Europeans.

Zeiss 02-13-2017 01:17 AM

Allah is trying to send an awakening message through these migrations but Europeans are still asleep. :1orglaugh

P.S. I am not a Muslim. Thanks for your understanding! :winkwink:

pimpmaster9000 02-13-2017 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 21539872)
I imagine this includes the 80% that aren't actually coming from war zones?

Oh they are just thrilled that the USA starts shit all around them boosting their economies to a distant memory...Don't forget to eat Us foreign policy asshole while getting proxy fucked by its effects tho...It's all the evil migrants fault LOL

k0nr4d 02-13-2017 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21540070)
Oh they are just thrilled that the USA starts shit all around them boosting their economies to a distant memory...Don't forget to eat Us foreign policy asshole while getting proxy fucked by its effects tho...It's all the evil migrants fault LOL

Ah but you see, it is the migrants fault. People don't hate them because they are arabs, people hate them because they don't work, they don't integrate, 80% of them are illiterate, they live off the welfare state and in many cases are violent.

The REASON we have migrants may well be US foreign policy, but the problems these migrants cause are the migrants' fault. If they came, integrated and behaved it wouldn't be a problem.

pimpmaster9000 02-13-2017 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21539878)
Most Europeans are worse off financially than they were 10 or 20 years ago. Fewer jobs, Lower Wages, Unemployment and a far worse future if Europe stays on its present course.

"paul markham-ing" is responsible for this not migrants...your corporations went and did a "paul markham" abroad and stopped hiring domestic workers in favor of cheap foreign workers...your consumers did a "paul markham" and purchased cheap foreign instead of expensive domestic...

now you are fucked because of "paul markham-ing" and you want to blame migrants? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

let me remind you of an almighty law of economy "where there is demand there is supply"...lots of paul markhamns wanted to paul markham ergo the demand for high paid europeans went to shit and the demand for low paid workers paul markham-ed...

paul, you are literally the poster boy for paul markhaming...you should wear a made in china MAGA hat and talk how you are going to bring jobs back to the west to make the comedy complete :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 21539878)
Ah but you see, it is the migrants fault. People don't hate them because they are arabs, people hate them because they don't work, they don't integrate, 80% of them are illiterate, they live off the welfare state and in many cases are violent.

nobody wants illiterate migrants but you would do the same if everything around you was rubble...if europe had gone ape-shit every time USIS invaded it would have only a fraction of the migrants it has now...people would rather stay at home than go to a country they do not speak a word of...very few people WANT to be an illegal migrant or whatever...

and no they are not violent in "many cases" because there are millions of them in europe, if this was true there would be millions of reports of violence daily...some are violent, some are from the stone age, but most are running away from what the west left them: no future

the bill has come due...

redwhiteandblue 02-13-2017 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21540148)
paul, you are literally the poster boy for paul markhaming...

Well there's no arguing with that is there?

Paul Markham 02-13-2017 04:21 AM

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9...y-rape-january

lys11 02-13-2017 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 21539902)
Allah is trying to send an awakening message through these migrations but Europeans are still asleep. :1orglaugh

P.S. I am not a Muslim. Thanks for your understanding! :winkwink:

Hahahaha they are God's messengers :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 02-13-2017 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lys11 (Post 21540253)
Hahahaha they are God's messengers :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Spreading the word one suicide bomber at a time. Lovely

just a punk 02-13-2017 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21538654)
News What Do Europeans Think About Muslim Immigration?

We just don't care. Islam is the second religion after Christianity in Russia. 1000 years ago we were conquered by Genghis Khan. Now Muslim Tatars - the heirs of Khan speak Russian, drink vodka and eat pork :winkwink:

When I was an university student, we had a few guys from Yemen in the group (the high education was free for us, but commercial for them). They were so Muslim, so religions, told us so much about Allah and Mohamed... but they have never said "no" to Russian vodka and bacon :pimp

https://c-in.ru/uploads/p/2016-01-24...t_vodochku.jpg

davidCRM 02-13-2017 05:17 AM

would love to see Sweden's stance on this

thommy 02-13-2017 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21538654)
Looks like there are a lot of racists and bigots in Europe :1orglaugh


http://i.imgur.com/44JzMop.png

In our survey, carried out before President Trump?s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ?All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped?. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.

Majorities in all but two of the ten states agreed, ranging from 71% in Poland, 65% in Austria, 53% in Germany and 51% in Italy to 47% in the United Kingdom and 41% in Spain. In no country did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32%.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/...im-immigration

the point is that there is a big difference between immigrants and refugees.

what most people in europe do not understand that there is a bidder calculus behind the politic angela merkel tried (and struggeled).

especially germany have a problem with the population. every year are more germans dying as born. the generation contract what significants, that the actial working people have to pay the pensions of the old people does not work (because it is a 67 years old lie from adenauer).

the plan from her was let the refugees in (with just a limited timeframe and get rid of them at any time) and keep the best and most integrated of them.

the problem is, that no politician in europe canīt talk like that and explain humanism by economic reason. thatīs why nobody understand the backgrounds and the people do not know the difference between immigration and refugees. germany was never and still is not an immigration country - even when that would be urgently needed for the mentioned reasons.

Horatio Caine 02-13-2017 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21540148)
"paul markham-ing" is responsible for this not migrants...your corporations went and did a "paul markham" abroad and stopped hiring domestic workers in favor of cheap foreign workers...your consumers did a "paul markham" and purchased cheap foreign instead of expensive domestic...

now you are fucked because of "paul markham-ing" and you want to blame migrants? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

let me remind you of an almighty law of economy "where there is demand there is supply"...lots of paul markhamns wanted to paul markham ergo the demand for high paid europeans went to shit and the demand for low paid workers paul markham-ed...

paul, you are literally the poster boy for paul markhaming...you should wear a made in china MAGA hat and talk how you are going to bring jobs back to the west to make the comedy complete :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh




nobody wants illiterate migrants but you would do the same if everything around you was rubble...if europe had gone ape-shit every time USIS invaded it would have only a fraction of the migrants it has now...people would rather stay at home than go to a country they do not speak a word of...very few people WANT to be an illegal migrant or whatever...

and no they are not violent in "many cases" because there are millions of them in europe, if this was true there would be millions of reports of violence daily...some are violent, some are from the stone age, but most are running away from what the west left them: no future

the bill has come due...


I love how you and that soviet shit head Boris think "Europe" is somehow addressed to two of you nitwits.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
He said "refugees" not "retards". No-one in their right mind would ever move to your countries. It defeats the whole purpose of being called "refugee" from a shithole country.

Paul Markham 02-13-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21540334)
the point is that there is a big difference between immigrants and refugees.

what most people in europe do not understand that there is a bidder calculus behind the politic angela merkel tried (and struggeled).

especially germany have a problem with the population. every year are more germans dying as born. the generation contract what significants, that the actial working people have to pay the pensions of the old people does not work (because it is a 67 years old lie from adenauer).

the plan from her was let the refugees in (with just a limited timeframe and get rid of them at any time) and keep the best and most integrated of them.

the problem is, that no politician in europe canīt talk like that and explain humanism by economic reason. thatīs why nobody understand the backgrounds and the people do not know the difference between immigration and refugees. germany was never and still is not an immigration country - even when that would be urgently needed for the mentioned reasons.

Stop taking what politicians tell you as the truth.

The difference between refugees and migrants is, migrants won't go home after the fighting stops. A large number of those crossing into Europe become migrants the moment they leave the first safe country they arrive in. They don't register themselves in the first country they arrive in. They throw away passports so as not to get sent back or identify they haven't come from a country not at war.

In the 21st Century, we need fewer people to work and those people to get paid more to pay the taxes required. More people = Lower wages/taxes which benefits the rich. Anyone who thinks more people means higher tax revenues is not in touch with logic, it's the size of the pay packet that matter.

If you mean Merkel and her plan. Then you are again out of touch with the facts.

Humanism starts at home. Europe faces huge problems as it moves toward losing 30% of jobs, the lowering of wages/tax revenues, the population's higher reliance on taxpayers money to support them. Countries are going into higher debt while cutting services and demand on those services rising.

I don't care if a migrant is white, black, brown or tan. They earn above the average wage and look after their family 100% or they don't get in. Which is why none of the migrants walking across Europe stop or goes voluntarily to Czech, Poland, Hungary, Balkans, Greece. They walk to countries where they will get more money. So all those guys are migrants.

Paul Markham 02-13-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21540406)
I love how you and that soviet shit head Boris think "Europe" is somehow addressed to two of you nitwits.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
He said "refugees" not "retards". No-one in their right mind would ever move to your countries. It defeats the whole purpose of being called "refugee" from a shithole country.

This dingbat moron needs to go and ask his Serbian neighbours how many Muslims that want to take.

pimpmaster9000 02-13-2017 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21540406)
I love how you and that soviet shit head Boris think "Europe" is somehow addressed to two of you nitwits.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
He said "refugees" not "retards". No-one in their right mind would ever move to your countries. It defeats the whole purpose of being called "refugee" from a shithole country.

learning to read would do you good:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh..."paul markhaming" is why your economies are going to shit :thumbsup

Horatio Caine 02-13-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21541480)
learning to read would do you good:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh..."paul markhaming" is why your economies are going to shit :thumbsup

I don't read your shit :1orglaugh Are you kidding me.
But I just knew two of you assclowns will be in this topic somehow thinking you are part of the group to whom OP addressed his question. :1orglaugh

Our economies going to shit? Oh Jebus... Silly shell shocked Serb :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

NewNick 02-13-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21540532)
Stop taking what politicians tell you as the truth.

The difference between refugees and migrants is, migrants won't go home after the fighting stops. A large number of those crossing into Europe become migrants the moment they leave the first safe country they arrive in. They don't register themselves in the first country they arrive in. They throw away passports so as not to get sent back or identify they haven't come from a country not at war.

In the 21st Century, we need fewer people to work and those people to get paid more to pay the taxes required. More people = Lower wages/taxes which benefits the rich. Anyone who thinks more people means higher tax revenues is not in touch with logic, it's the size of the pay packet that matter.

If you mean Merkel and her plan. Then you are again out of touch with the facts.

Humanism starts at home. Europe faces huge problems as it moves toward losing 30% of jobs, the lowering of wages/tax revenues, the population's higher reliance on taxpayers money to support them. Countries are going into higher debt while cutting services and demand on those services rising.

I don't care if a migrant is white, black, brown or tan. They earn above the average wage and look after their family 100% or they don't get in. Which is why none of the migrants walking across Europe stop or goes voluntarily to Czech, Poland, Hungary, Balkans, Greece. They walk to countries where they will get more money. So all those guys are migrants.

More walls of text from Paul Migrant.

:1orglaugh

Tasty1 02-13-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21540334)
especially germany have a problem with the population. every year are more germans dying as born. the generation contract what significants, that the actial working people have to pay the pensions of the old people does not work (because it is a 67 years old lie from adenauer).

So the other politicians did 67 years nothing... who is to blame. Better blame the dead, that is easier...

Why are the same people that are saying we need workers also saying everybody must have a basic income cause there won't be work for everyone in the future?

I say "a donkey never hits the same stone twice". If i see what cultural clashes are happening now, better not repeat that again. Better less economic growth than more of those problems.

Paul Markham 02-14-2017 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21541906)
So the other politicians did 67 years nothing... who is to blame. Better blame the dead, that is easier...

Why are the same people that are saying we need workers also saying everybody must have a basic income cause there won't be work for everyone in the future?

I say "a donkey never hits the same stone twice". If i see what cultural clashes are happening now, better not repeat that again. Better less economic growth than more of those problems.

No modern country needs more workers long term. Or even short term where in some areas more training is needed. This is a lie put out by the 1% who want to suppress wages.

Long term as machines take the jobs of Humans you still here will face a huge problem.

Very high rates of unemployment, say around 20% more than now. These people will have to be looked after or they will start voting for Governments that will. Very far Right or Left. So taxes will go through the roof for those who do have a job and that won't be enough. Companies will have to pay high taxes.

Will tax havens and countries with low tax rates be able to harbour companies who want to sell everywhere ad not pay taxes?

Don't reply with new jobs will appear. Those new jobs will be done by machines.

Read up on what's happening and what's coming.

This exposes Thommy's lack of knowledge.

Paul Markham 02-14-2017 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21541726)
I don't read your shit :1orglaugh Are you kidding me.
But I just knew two of you assclowns will be in this topic somehow thinking you are part of the group to whom OP addressed his question. :1orglaugh

Our economies going to shit? Oh Jebus... Silly shell shocked Serb :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Western economies aren't doing great. Worse still the people are doing badly.

Paul Markham 02-14-2017 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21541762)
More walls of text from Paul Migrant.

:1orglaugh

I'm sorry if you can only consume sound bites on complex issues. I write for a more intelligent level than you.

Do you see how easy it is to put down stupid people?

oppoten 02-14-2017 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21540334)
especially germany have a problem with the population. every year are more germans dying as born.

Take your Cultural Marxists with you to Israel, leave the German people to their own devices, and watch out for a miraculous improvement :thumbsup

thommy 02-14-2017 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21542932)
Take your Cultural Marxists with you to Israel, leave the German people to their own devices, and watch out for a miraculous improvement :thumbsup

1. i will not go to isreal - what shall i do there? i am not jewish and i do not want to live in a country where nobody knows when a missile is knocking on his head.

there will not be a miracle improvement because the environment is fucked already and the countries around the equator will not survive.
also the north countries will not because they will be under water.

the responsible on that are the countries what are (for an accident) in a region what does not get this influence in the near future.

so what do you think will happen?

do you think this person will wait in their countries for their dead?

if human being wants to survive we have to learn to live together on what is left or fighting horrible wars where billions will be killed.
we both and the rest here will not have the chance to sit in one of this bunkers where the elite will be able to survive 200 years.

99% of you people here have the problem that you are victims of your own political convictions. you are not able to look either left or right and you do not see the shades in between black and white. You were bred to join one of the two opinions you have and you are not willing to accept the truth, wven when this truth in in the middle between black and white.

after I am neither racist nor caught in a political ideology i have the freedom to pick the best choice for each circumstance and issue. i do not have to fight for a president i voted or a party i am member - i am completely free in my thoughts and that makes it so hard to discuss with people which basically refer to their position as the opposite of their political opponents and not from a logic and neutral point of view.

most arguments i read here are "fake news", "bullshit" or calling names to each other.
the only one who really can argument for his points is the Serbian guy here. I do not agree with all he says because he is a nationalist per excellence but whatever he says is an argument what is worth to discuss and shows me that this guy is really one of the smartest here.

from what you said in all this discussion i do not even know if you are a jewish rabbi or the local headmaster of ku klux clan.

pimpmaster9000 02-14-2017 03:19 AM

"paul markhaming" is what is destroying your economies and the only thing keeping some of it alive is cheap labor...go ahead and pretend that hiring expensive western workers is a realistic option :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh go ahead and block the influx of cheap workers that is the life belt that is keeping you afloat :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

if this was sports and we were discussing hiring fat players vs skinny players this would not even be up for debate...but expensive workers vs. cheap ones, somehow, is like a real debate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

expensive western worker = thing of the past...RIP...none of you want expensive stuff and expensive workers you all want to "paul markham" and complain and red herring it on refugees or whatever...

go to a mirror and take a look at the reason your economies will never recover and then go do a "paul markham" on the boards and try to blame others :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 02-14-2017 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21543046)
"paul markhaming" is what is destroying your economies and the only thing keeping some of it alive is cheap labor...go ahead and pretend that hiring expensive western workers is a realistic option :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh go ahead and block the influx of cheap workers that is the life belt that is keeping you afloat :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

if this was sports and we were discussing hiring fat players vs skinny players this would not even be up for debate...but expensive workers vs. cheap ones, somehow, is like a real debate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

expensive western worker = thing of the past...RIP...none of you want expensive stuff and expensive workers you all want to "paul markham" and complain and red herring it on refugees or whatever...

go to a mirror and take a look at the reason your economies will never recover and then go do a "paul markham" on the boards and try to blame others :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

infact the idea of bringing back work from cheap countries to the own is not logic at all.

EVERY business calculation includes the factors "equity interest" and "profit"

so lets say a product what is sold for 100 dollars plus 5% capital interest and 10% profit would cost 115 dollar.

if the production cost for labour gets up 5 dollar it would lead the product to 105 plus 5% capital interest plus 10% profit = 120.75 dollar

that means, that the guy who make 5 dollars more have to pay 5,75 more for the same product. WHAT EXACTLY happens now with the prosperity ?

AND the point is that this 5 dollar more may bring him (because of the progressive tax) into another tax rate - what means that he does not get 5 dollars from that but maybe only 4.
that means that he pays not only 75 cent more - he pay 1,75 dollar more as he did before.

it is that simple and i canīt understand why nobody can see this simple and logic point.

just a punk 02-14-2017 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21540406)
I love how you and that soviet shit head Boris think "Europe" is somehow addressed to two of you nitwits.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
He said "refugees" not "retards". No-one in their right mind would ever move to your countries. It defeats the whole purpose of being called "refugee" from a shithole country.

Idiot, Moscow in #1 city in the world by the flow of immigrants - legal and illegal ones who want to work and live here. They are basically from the former Soviet republics, China, Vietnam, Ghana etc. Maybe they have a better education, or their culture is not so bad, but they don't mass rape our women (like in Germany and Sweden), they don't make Muslim patrols (like in the UK), they don't burn cars and don't rioting (like in France). We have a lot of them, we allow them to pray their God, but we don't allow them to do anything that those refugees are used to do in the EU.

This is Moscow, and these are foreign Muslim immigrants:

http://www.varlamov.me/2014/uraza_bairam/18.jpg

http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_or.../2/5838236.jpg

http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_or.../2/5838265.jpg

http://varlamov.me/img/kurban_bairam13/00s.jpg

http://varlamov.me/img/kurban_bairam13/08.jpg

http://varlamov.me/img/kurban_bairam13/02.jpg

If you want to see Chinese ones, go to a nearest street market. If you are looking for African immigrants - go to a brothel. Wanna see UK or German guys? Go to any night pub. This city is full of foreigns and we are ok with them.

NewNick 02-14-2017 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21542905)
I'm sorry if you can only consume sound bites on complex issues. I write for a more intelligent level than you.

Im sorry that you are unable to comprehend the hypocrisy of your position.

You, Paul Fucking Migrant, spewing out walls of text telling everyone how they should feel about migration.

When are you going home Paul ?

There is another fella like you who claims to be really smart, and he claims to have all the answers. He spews out bullshit responses about immigration when in truth he is also completely reliant on it.

Breath taking hypocrisy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 02-14-2017 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21543082)
infact the idea of bringing back work from cheap countries to the own is not logic at all.

EVERY business calculation includes the factors "equity interest" and "profit"

so lets say a product what is sold for 100 dollars plus 5% capital interest and 10% profit would cost 115 dollar.

if the production cost for labour gets up 5 dollar it would lead the product to 105 plus 5% capital interest plus 10% profit = 120.75 dollar

that means, that the guy who make 5 dollars more have to pay 5,75 more for the same product. WHAT EXACTLY happens now with the prosperity ?

AND the point is that this 5 dollar more may bring him (because of the progressive tax) into another tax rate - what means that he does not get 5 dollars from that but maybe only 4.
that means that he pays not only 75 cent more - he pay 1,75 dollar more as he did before.

it is that simple and i canīt understand why nobody can see this simple and logic point.



a pretty lie is always better accepted than the ugly truth..."miracle diet pills" sellers and politicians make full use of this :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tasty1 02-14-2017 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21543082)
infact the idea of bringing back work from cheap countries to the own is not logic at all.

EVERY business calculation includes the factors "equity interest" and "profit"

so lets say a product what is sold for 100 dollars plus 5% capital interest and 10% profit would cost 115 dollar.

if the production cost for labour gets up 5 dollar it would lead the product to 105 plus 5% capital interest plus 10% profit = 120.75 dollar

that means, that the guy who make 5 dollars more have to pay 5,75 more for the same product. WHAT EXACTLY happens now with the prosperity ?

AND the point is that this 5 dollar more may bring him (because of the progressive tax) into another tax rate - what means that he does not get 5 dollars from that but maybe only 4.
that means that he pays not only 75 cent more - he pay 1,75 dollar more as he did before.

it is that simple and i canīt understand why nobody can see this simple and logic point.

They will change the human for a machine and the product will cost 1 euro more.
No need for immigration, no more slave labour. It is perfect that there will be less people in Europe.
Less people = better for environment.

Paul Markham 02-14-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21543082)
infact the idea of bringing back work from cheap countries to the own is not logic at all.

EVERY business calculation includes the factors "equity interest" and "profit"

so lets say a product what is sold for 100 dollars plus 5% capital interest and 10% profit would cost 115 dollar.

if the production cost for labour gets up 5 dollar it would lead the product to 105 plus 5% capital interest plus 10% profit = 120.75 dollar

that means, that the guy who make 5 dollars more have to pay 5,75 more for the same product. WHAT EXACTLY happens now with the prosperity ?

AND the point is that this 5 dollar more may bring him (because of the progressive tax) into another tax rate - what means that he does not get 5 dollars from that but maybe only 4.
that means that he pays not only 75 cent more - he pay 1,75 dollar more as he did before.

it is that simple and i canīt understand why nobody can see this simple and logic point.

I'm sorry if you're too blind to see how wrong you are.

The company overseas isn't contributing to the Western economy. So let's say it costs $25 in China, $25 the Western economy isn't getting.

The guy making it is now off benefits and spending in the Western economy, paying taxes and contributing instead of costing the country.

Paul Markham 02-14-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21543091)
Im sorry that you are unable to comprehend the hypocrisy of your position.

You, Paul Fucking Migrant, spewing out walls of text telling everyone how they should feel about migration.

When are you going home Paul ?

There is another fella like you who claims to be really smart, and he claims to have all the answers. He spews out bullshit responses about immigration when in truth he is also completely reliant on it.

Breath taking hypocrisy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not anti-migration. Why are you still harping on that point?

I'm pro-migration between Western Countries for people who will bring wealth to their new country. People like me.

I'm anti-migration for people who can't bring wealth to their new country and are already living on benefits. People like you.

Of the immediate family of five, that I grew up with only one remains in the UK. Of my Fathers family, 3 of them migrated. In fact, my family has a history of emigrating.


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