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ItBurnsWhenIpee 04-07-2003 03:42 PM

No debates needed, just a poll: should we be doing this war or not?
 
Just curious what the poll numbers would be here, not looking for more debate :)

Libertine 04-07-2003 03:57 PM

I think a simple yes or no doesn't suffice, since there are many different reasons for being either for or against the war. :2 cents:

directfiesta 04-07-2003 03:58 PM

Isn'it a bit late to ask that question ....

Abit like after cumming ,you ask yourself if you should fuck that broad ... or not....

:2 cents:

ItBurnsWhenIpee 04-07-2003 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
I think a simple yes or no doesn't suffice, since there are many different reasons for being either for or against the war. :2 cents:
But all I want to know is if we should be there right now or not. I think most people can say if they think yes or no

JeremySF 04-07-2003 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
I think a simple yes or no doesn't suffice, since there are many different reasons for being either for or against the war. :2 cents:
Which is why POLLS are all bullshit! They don't tell you anything because they allow no shades of gray.

What did Mark Twain say? "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."

SpaceAce 04-07-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF


Which is why POLLS are all bullshit! They don't tell you anything because they allow no shades of gray.

What did Mark Twain say? "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."

What does that have to do with anything? It is a simple question: either you do support the war or you don't. You can't "sort of" support the war. So, yes or no suffices. I think we've had plenty of threads with people telling us WHY they are for or against it. This is a simple breakdown of "Yes, I think we should be doing this" and "No, I don't think we should be doing this."

SpaceAce

ItBurnsWhenIpee 04-07-2003 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce


What does that have to do with anything? It is a simple question: either you do support the war or you don't. You can't "sort of" support the war. So, yes or no suffices. I think we've had plenty of threads with people telling us WHY they are for or against it. This is a simple breakdown of "Yes, I think we should be doing this" and "No, I don't think we should be doing this."

SpaceAce

Thank you!

theking 04-07-2003 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce


What does that have to do with anything? It is a simple question: either you do support the war or you don't. You can't "sort of" support the war. So, yes or no suffices. I think we've had plenty of threads with people telling us WHY they are for or against it. This is a simple breakdown of "Yes, I think we should be doing this" and "No, I don't think we should be doing this."

SpaceAce

The KISS method can be useful.

12clicks 04-07-2003 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
No debates needed, just a poll: should we be doing this war or not?
No, because its over already:1orglaugh

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


No, because its over already:1orglaugh

Only a fool would think that.

When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.

The real fireworks are about to begin.

Enjoy the show.

jimmyf 04-07-2003 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Only a fool would think that.

When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.

The real fireworks are about to begin.

Enjoy the show.

don't you wish.

The Truth Hurts 04-07-2003 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Only a fool would think that.

When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.

The real fireworks are about to begin.

Enjoy the show.

Isn't that the same thing that was said would happen if/when the war started?

Now we have to wait til after the war?

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
don't you wish.
Lets just say you won't be able to say that you didn't bring it on yourselves.

I believe that you reap what you sow.

ItBurnsWhenIpee 04-07-2003 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Lets just say you won't be able to say that you didn't bring it on yourselves.

I believe that you reap what you sow.

This is a WAR on terror, not hiding from terror :)

theking 04-07-2003 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Lets just say you won't be able to say that you didn't bring it on yourselves.

I believe that you reap what you sow.

The dead bolts and barred windows for your living quarters must have been quite expensive. How much did you have to pay for your safe room? How much do you pay for security guards?

theking 04-07-2003 06:24 PM

Hmm...apparently he must be occupied feeding the Dingo's, or maybe adding another deadbolt.

12clicks 04-07-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


Isn't that the same thing that was said would happen if/when the war started?


haha, you hit that right on the head.

12clicks 04-07-2003 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack




When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.


I'm pretty sure he babbled this shit about afghanistan too. :1orglaugh

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm pretty sure he babbled this shit about afghanistan too. :1orglaugh

Well they certainy bent you over and anally reemed your nation on September 11, 2001. Don't think it won't happen again. This war has created hundreds of thousands of new terrorist recruits who are just as keen to die as you are to live.

Enjoy.

Centurion 04-07-2003 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Only a fool would think that.

When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.

The real fireworks are about to begin.

Enjoy the show.

I noticed someone responded to your post with "You wish!" And that made me start thinking about those that are against the war, those especially outside of the U.S.A.

6pack..DO you REALLY want to see the U.S. get hit by "waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks" (not will it happen...but do YOU want that to happen..and don't flame me for being pro war as I was against this war).

An honest response would be appreciated. Thanks!

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I noticed someone responded to your post with "You wish!" And that made me start thinking about those that are against the war, those especially outside of the U.S.A.

6pack..DO you REALLY want to see the U.S. get hit by "waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks" (not will it happen...but do YOU want that to happen..and don't flame me for being pro war as I was against this war).

An honest response would be appreciated. Thanks!

No, but I won't cry a river when it happens.

You will have brought it on yourselves through your own military aggression, cultural and economic imperialism and your financial and military support of Israel, a nation that is systematically oppressing the Palestinians.

Like I said before, you reap what you sow. That's how I feel about it.

You don't seriously think terrorists want to attack your nation and kill Americans because they have nothing better to do with their time.

Do you?

ChrisH 04-07-2003 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I noticed someone responded to your post with "You wish!" And that made me start thinking about those that are against the war, those especially outside of the U.S.A.

6pack..DO you REALLY want to see the U.S. get hit by "waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks" (not will it happen...but do YOU want that to happen..and don't flame me for being pro war as I was against this war).

An honest response would be appreciated. Thanks!

You must be new here. You obviously never seen him glorify the WTC destruction have you? He'd love to see a US city Nuked tomorrow.

Some people hide there heads in the sand. Americans don't! We didn't in the 80's when Regan put ICBM's in Europe to combat the USSR, and the whole fucking world cringed and screamed that he'd start WWIII.

We sure the fuck ain't gonna start now.

Kill it BEFORE it kills you! :thumbsup

12clicks 04-07-2003 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Well they certainy bent you over and anally reemed your nation on September 11, 2001. Don't think it won't happen again. This war has created hundreds of thousands of new terrorist recruits who are just as keen to die as you are to live.

Enjoy.

sure kid.

just like the thousands you said we created after afghanistan.

the pain of your impotence never lets up, does it?:1orglaugh

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

sure kid.

just like the thousands you said we created after afghanistan.

the pain of your impotence never lets up, does it?:1orglaugh

I will be bumping this thread after the next big terrorist attack.

We'll see who's right.

12clicks 04-07-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack



You will have brought it on yourselves through your own military aggression, cultural and economic imperialism and your financial and military support of Israel, a nation that is systematically oppressing the Palestinians.

Like I said before, you reap what you sow. That's how I feel about it.


this speak volumes.

12clicks 04-07-2003 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I will be bumping this thread after the next big terrorist attack.

We'll see who's right.

And I'll be bumping it up when we snuff out the next country who supports the terrorists.

ChrisH 04-07-2003 08:06 PM

CluelessJoe,
Don't forget the 2000 Austrailian Troops in Iraq.

Are you reaping what you sow? :321GFY

theking 04-07-2003 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH
CluelessJoe,
Don't forget the 2000 Austrailian Troops in Iraq.

Are you reaping what you sow? :321GFY

He will, personal and close up.

Plat 04-07-2003 08:38 PM

i vote zipit

Centurion 04-07-2003 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


No, but I won't cry a river when it happens.

You will have brought it on yourselves through your own military aggression, cultural and economic imperialism and your financial and military support of Israel, a nation that is systematically oppressing the Palestinians.

Like I said before, you reap what you sow. That's how I feel about it.

You don't seriously think terrorists want to attack your nation and kill Americans because they have nothing better to do with their time.

Do you?

So, you are saying you wish that millions of Americans die, even all of those that were opposed to the war?

What are the people that were opposed to the war suppose to do? Disarm the troops..somehow stop the ships & planes taking the troops over to Iraq? You are quite willing to blame an entire nation for what a HANDFUL of men did?

You honestly wish innocents death because of what a handful of military/politicos decided upon and carried through?

Centurion 04-07-2003 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH


You must be new here. You obviously never seen him glorify the WTC destruction have you? He'd love to see a US city Nuked tomorrow.

Some people hide there heads in the sand. Americans don't! We didn't in the 80's when Regan put ICBM's in Europe to combat the USSR, and the whole fucking world cringed and screamed that he'd start WWIII.

We sure the fuck ain't gonna start now.

Kill it BEFORE it kills you! :thumbsup

I'm not that new. I just want to know what motivates a person to so viciously hate a complete stranger he's never met before. Especially those that did not do any of the things he posted in his message. I've never known a person who would wish the death of some innocent in say South Dakota just because that person lives in the United States.

theking 04-07-2003 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I'm not that new. I just want to know what motivates a person to so viciously hate a complete stranger he's never met before. Especially those that did not do any of the things he posted in his message. I've never known a person who would wish the death of some innocent in say South Dakota just because that person lives in the United States.

Joe Sixpack dosen't believe what he posts. He is just a troll, nothing more than a troll. He is an irritating troll, and one that I would gladly smash if given the chance. No troll, no mo'.

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


So, you are saying you wish that millions of Americans die, even all of those that were opposed to the war?

What are the people that were opposed to the war suppose to do? Disarm the troops..somehow stop the ships & planes taking the troops over to Iraq? You are quite willing to blame an entire nation for what a HANDFUL of men did?

You honestly wish innocents death because of what a handful of military/politicos decided upon and carried through?

Ever heard the saying: "People get the government they deserve."

'nuff said.

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Joe Sixpack dosen't believe what he posts. He is just a troll, nothing more than a troll. He is an irritating troll, and one that I would gladly smash if given the chance. No troll, no mo'.

You have anger management issues old man.

Maybe if you got yourself some pussy you would loosen up a little and you wouldn't need to masturbate to breaking war news on CNN.

Centurion 04-07-2003 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Ever heard the saying: "People get the government they deserve."

'nuff said.

I expected much more from you! Instead of something APPROACHING intelligence, you leave a lame ass quote?

Let the record show that your flame burned out big time!
(AS IT SHOULD! :thumbsup )

iroc409 04-07-2003 11:13 PM

interesting thing about anti-war arguments though. i do remember hearing most of the same arguments against this war around the time we went into afganistan.

Joe Sixpack 04-07-2003 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I expected much more from you! Instead of something APPROACHING intelligence, you leave a lame ass quote?

Let the record show that your flame burned out big time!
(AS IT SHOULD! :thumbsup )

What exactly did you expect?

All I'm saying is that if you get more terrorist attacks then your nation has brought them on itself. Your successive governments have been responsible for your foreign policy. They were voted in by the people. The people are responsible. Why are the lives of Americans worth more than the life of an Iraqi or anyone else? The bottom line is that they're not.

Here's another saying for you: "You make your bed and then you have to lie in it."

Centurion 04-07-2003 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by iroc409
interesting thing about anti-war arguments though. i do remember hearing most of the same arguments against this war around the time we went into afganistan.
Well, I'm not as radical as a lot of people are, but I do believe the war will end up doing more harm than good.

Everyone keeps talking about the "bigger picture".
Well, the bigger picture in regards to 9/11 was that it took years of preparation.

And while there have not been any terrorist attacks on Mainland USA, you don't honestly think that the Iraqi war CALMED down the threat of suicidal terrorist attacks do you?

I do believe it has served as a great recruiting tool for Bin Laden and his cronies. So again, it IS the bigger picture that one has to take into account here.

Centurion 04-07-2003 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


What exactly did you expect?

All I'm saying is that if you get more terrorist attacks then your nation has brought them on itself. Your successive governments have been responsible for your foreign policy. They were voted in by the people. The people are responsible. Why are the lives of Americans worth more than the life of an Iraqi or anyone else? The bottom line is that they're not.

Here's another saying for you: "You make your bed and then you have to lie in it."

You absolutely refuse to answer a direct question! You would WISH the death of an innocent who DIDN'T vote for BUSH, was against the war, and let's say is a QUAKER (religious pacifist)?

Were we who were against the war supposed to somehow OVERTHROW an elected government to stop the war?

I guess in light of what has been said, it's no wonder you can't answer the question because there is NO SANE LOGIC for wishing the death of ANY innocent.

I made my bed..now get your butt out of it!

JeremySF 04-07-2003 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Only a fool would think that.

When this war is over, the real war will be just beginning.

Get ready for waves and waves of terrorist suicide attacks both on your own soil and against US interests overseas.

The real fireworks are about to begin.

Enjoy the show.

I don't ever like agreeing with Joe6 but he is correct in that when this over is over, the real war will just begin.

What's currently going on in Iraq is not a war. It's a battle. There's no doubt in anyone's mind (except for maybe Saddam or Tariq Aziz) that the U.S. will easily defeat Iraq militarily.

Unfortunately, however, there is no pure military solution to terrorism. If there were, Israel would have figured it out.

We will defeat (or at least minimize) terrorism in the aftermath of the defeat on Iraq. If we follow through on our promises of liberation and truly provide the Iraqis with a better life than they had under Saddam (which shouldn't be hard) we will be in a much better position to convince other Arabs that our intentions are noble. If we don't, we could be screwed.

Israel won 1967's 6-day war decisively, but if what they have suffered in the aftermath is victory, I don't know that I want it.


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