pics from Saturday NYC WAR PROTEST
 

There are potests all over the world now... when will I have the balls to stand with my fellow countrymen for what is right in the face of the tyranny of George W. Bush?

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Those people make me sick.....Of course no one wants war....but those retards are just wasting the valuable time of local police and governement agencies.....

After the next so-called terror attack and Bushie declares martial law. Ooops... it will be too late by then of course.

But don't worry. Martial law, like income tax, will only be a "temporary measure", until such time that the War on Terror (like the War on Drugs) has been won!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheFLY
[B]There are potests all over the world now... when will I have the balls to stand with my fellow countrymen for what is right in the face of the tyranny of George W. Bush?

No, they were waiting for Elvis to show up... Nobody is against the war in the US. If you are = you are a traitor!

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You fucking republican fags with your witty catch phrases like "tree huggers" and "hippies"... where are the hippies now you bitches? The world is in outrage -- IMPEACH BUSH!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheFLY
[B]You fucking republican fags with your witty catch phrases like "tree huggers" and "hippies"... where are the hippies now you bitches? The world is in outrage -- IMPEACH BUSH!

Get the fuck out then...there plenty of pussy countries that sit by and watch shit go down....go there. Then be the first to turn to the US to bail them out of everything....

I hope Saddam gets out and plants his big fat cock right in your ass

Move to France if you dont like it

You are a waste of fucking air, thousands of people will die in IRAQ again in the interest of MONEY, not freedom.

SYou are making my point.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by thesexattic
[B]I think Saddam already did that in the movie South Park...

I think what people are outraged about is that Saddam is clearly no threat. His "soldiers" are out there fighiting in t-shirts and sandals. Iraqi civlians are being decimated. Mini-Bush gets out on CNN, in the middle of the carnage, to gleefully announce that we have secured the Iraqi oil fields in the south. Yeeehaaa!

Even Pat Buchanan is basically saying that the Bush admin has been taken over by a bunch of war-mongering, conservative whackos who are running the danger of leading America into a global war....

Their dead already......they are stuck under sick rule.....now they may have an option...dumb ass

[QUOTE]Originally posted by thesexattic
[B]This is my country too asswipe and Bush is my bitch. Read the constitution dickhead -- I have it memorized, do you?

give it up already. go out and make a real difference.

don't worry fly, canada will liberate the american people from that tyrant bush

Read below for a more intelligent argument against the protestors than "Those people make me sick....".

Fact is, they're taking resources away from anti-terrorism measures and they cost cities millions. A protest in SF costs $500k to $1M a day in overtime alone....And, they prevent other people from "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", in fact preventing people from even being able to work!

San Francisco Street Subversion
By Brian Sayre
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 21, 2003


Over five hundred were detained before eleven o'clock this morning; a television reporter declared 'truckloads more' had come in by mid-afternoon. Surrendering Iraqi soldiers? No, anti-American demonstrators, set loose on the streets of San Francisco.

Today, on the first day of America's campaign to liberate the Iraqi people, at a time when the threat of terrorist attack is elevated and the troops need our support, thousands of Bay Area radicals poured into the streets in a last-ditch effort to impose their lost argument undemocratically on the rest of San Francisco. The majority of the city's police force were tied up unblocking the streets. With at least one suspected Al Qaeda pilot being sought by the FBI on American soil, the citizens of San Francisco lost the use of manpower best used to spot terrorists.

The disruption began early, before the morning commute. Coalitions of radical activists had long planned to block over two dozen different intersections and workplaces - by the time they got organized, before eight o'clock, they'd successfully shut down at least ten, including several on the main arteries of Mission, Van Ness, and Market. A freeway ramp was also blocked, with over two hundred people occupying it. Other protestors used subterfuge to achieve their aims. After stealing equipment from construction workers, a pack of young men sealed other freeway off-ramps with traffic cones and men-at-work signs. All were being well organized - the coalition behind the chaos, Direct Action to Stop the War, had arranged in advance for a legal team to defend the arrested. Out of their command post in the Justin Herman Plaza, they directed new arrivals to where they could cause the most confusion.

Although the San Francisco police acted promptly, and began arresting those who refused to disperse, progress was slow as demonstrators locked their arms together within steel pipes. By half past eight, one intersection was shut down by people locked to large cement blocks; another group uprooted newspaper racks and strew them across the streets. There would be no business as usual for those San Franciscans who wanted to work and support their families.Will the protestors reimburse them for their lost pay? Their measure, designed to stop the war, hurts hardest the working poor they usually defend. While these protestors, many of them unemployed students, claim the safety of the Iraqi people is worth taking from the pockets of working Californians, President Bush and the majority of Americans know that only the liberation of Iraq from the dictator will truly make Iraqis safe, and are not about to listen to a small crowd of street rabble. At times like this, we must wonder - what exactly is their point?

As the day progressed, their point became more clear - to cause as much havoc as possible. Despite the best efforts of the San Francisco police force, they were unable to clear the streets, no doubt because of their refusal to lower themselves to the protestors' violent level. By mid-morning, at Post and Grant, people pushed cars out to blockade the street. By noon, crowds were roving up and down Market, blocking traffic - and just when the police had restrained a large number by the Federal Building, and were preparing for a mass arrest, a 'Black Bloc' of anarchist protestors assembled elsewhere and began their own march. Leading a march reportedly two thousand strong, this black-clad mob headed for the Financial District, opening a fire hydrant and breaking windows - windows of police cars, windows of the Federal Building.

When many of these Black Bloc protestors were arrested at the Federal Building, police made surprising discoveries - these practitioners of 'non-violent civil disobedience' were armed. Knives. Wrenches. Clubs. Hammers. In one case, a taser. Mercifully, no firearms - yet. At the time of writing, news is still sparse, and details uncertain; but two short words on their own radical website are enough to bring an uneasy sickness to the stomach: "Cop down."

The arrested are being taken to at least two processing stations - one set up on the length of one of the city's piers. There the protestors are documented, cited, and released. As one local television reporter announced mid-afternoon, the turnaround time was two to three hours.

However, the protests are set to continue all night. Already, protestors have announced 're-convergences' every two hours until midnight - at these re-convergences, they assemble enough bodies until they can set off through the city with relative impunity, able to be subdued only by a large force of riot cops. They plan to stay out all night; many have expressed enthusiasm for continuing their unlawful activity indefinitely. Again - just what is the point? Mayor Willie Brown, despite being personally against a war on Iraq, provided the answer for the San Francisco Chronicle: "I've got to assume that these people are so misguided that they are actually aiding the enemy by doing what they are doing."

Exactly, Mayor Brown. The protestors are indeed aiding the enemy, by making it easier for him to strike us at home.

There is room in civil society for a wide range of opinions on the war in Iraq, although now that the government has decided, we all have an obligation to support our troops and respect the sacrifices they make. Those against a war still have plenty of opportunity to dissent - by writing to the newspapers, by calling their politicians, and by participating in legal protest, planned for by the police.

Yet no one has a right to break the law. No one has the right to jeopardize others by keeping our police from their job. At times like this, we all must speak out against the 'revolving door' system of arrests taking place in San Francisco and other cities across America. Our police do their job well, putting themselves in danger to ensure our cities run, but when they can only take a radical out of action for two to three hours at a time, the laws they enforce are failing them. But there are steps we can take to correct this situation.

We can start by encouraging our politicians and prosecutors to press for harsher penalties and higher bails, keeping a protestor from being arrested multiple times in a single action, allowing the police to clear the streets of lawbreakers rather than simply shifting them around. A much better solution ? give teeth to the existing laws with mandatory, harsher penalties in time of increased terrorist threat, penalties that would keep these lawbreakers from weakening our defenses against terrorism for the duration of the conflict.

America is at war in Iraq. God bless our troops. Regrettably, a few have chosen to wage war at home. May God also bless our police.

This weekend at Camp Pendleton, just north of San Diego, there was another protest. A support protest. A peaceful protest.

People showing support for the same people that have risked their lives and have seen their friends die in combat.

Streets were not closed. Businesses did not shut down. Workers made it to their place of employment with no troubles.

So what are you saying? The Iraqi people will not gain freedom after this excursion? Who's going to hinder their freedom? The United States?

I'm not naive enough to think that this invasion has nothing to do with money, of course it does. Everything revolves around money. Are you naive enough to think that the Iraqi people will not gain freedom from this?

If this were 1942... and someone asked you to fight for another country, for THEIR freedom, not yours... what would you say?

If the protestors didn't stop the war happening, why are they still out taking up police time everywhere when both US & UK are on high alerts ?

They have been heard. We know they are there. Doesn't make any difference.

My brother is in the police and got hurt badly when asshole protestors started throwing rocks at police lines...

this is ironic in so many ways... but for any who seem outraged to see people protesting the invasion, keep in mind this is supposedly one of the so-called 'freedoms' that amerika is supposed to embody... maybe you'd prefer it if they outlawed any outcry against the current administration, a la China..? be careful... the next freedom that is given up in the name of 'homeland security' might be one that you and yours hold more dear..

difference between prostesting and vandalism etc

Yawn... let me put it in simple terms retard.

WAR = MURDER
MURDER is BAD



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If you are a Christian, read John... to get to heaven is simple.

1. Love God
2. Love your neighbor.

What part about #2 do you not understand? It's common sense. You don't kill people for money!

Shamefull ... But there are idiots on both sides...

What he said.


Tell my brother that that is their right...

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Thanks for the enlightenment.

Thanks to you... Nazi Germany just took over Europe. Hooray!

And obviously the kids who are protesting the war cannot distinguish between two.

Hahaha...

and thanks to you the USA just took over Europe. Hooray!

LOL

What an utterly stupid statement. Why am I not surprised TheFLY made it?

it's not protesting when someone is out smashing private businesses and property (just ask bonebrone about that sad incident), smashing pulic proerty that my tax dollars pay for. it's not protesting by trying to stop the economy. it's an infringement on the rights of others. what good does it do to keep someone from getting to work and paying the bills so they can support their family?

hope you find the bastards, boneprone.

i don't mind protesting, but not willful destruction and violations of rights doesn't even make sense. get a freaking clue.

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Yeh, sure looks like we have control over Germany and France... let me go munch on my freedom fries.

the terrorist cells can relax more knowing that all the police is working on the anti-war protest

i totally agree w/ you there friend... theres been a lot of hostility from some against people protesting at all against the current administration, that is who i refer to..

Anti-war protestors being violent??

Shows you... You can still have hope to convert them....

Wow, and I thought a similiar post the other day was the dumbest post ever.........I'm going with this one by a mile

DirectFiesta, a quick question for you... not because it's targeted at you, but because I'm sure you'll answer.

In this very thread, I had a couple simple, yet legitimate questions for The FLY. He turned around and called me names. What kind of answer is that?

Why do people resort to calling names when asked questions that could give their opinions a little backing? It makes no sense to me. Is this something that only the truly intelligent college graduates understand?

While there are probably a few violent protestors amongst the anti-war people, the overwhelming majority have been peaceful.

And a favorite tactic of the government is to seed any protest movement that works against them with "spoilers". In the 1960s, the FBI under Hoover infiltrated the Black Panthers and the peace movement and used agents to stir up violence and vandalism. The media of course zeroed in on these acts of violence (as opposed to the 99.9% of peaceful protestors) and thus tainted the panthers and the peave movement as a bunch of uncivilized malcontents.

In Seattle in 1999, the US Army delta force, under direction of the CIA, bused a bunch of anarchists into Seattle to "spoil" the WTO protests. The anarchists were directed to smash store windows and what not in downtown Seattle. Again, the media was manipulated (or maybe they were part of the plan) into filming these few rotten apples and the whole protest was tainted. The Seattle police then rushed the crowd to break a few heads.

Beware. If you get 100% of your news from CNN/Fox etc., you are being manipulated. At least cross-reference those sources with local affiliates who appear to be less biased as well as with independent news sources.

No matter how much everyone sits here typing away replying to arguements - nothing will change. The war is happening. Get used to it coz from what I have seen on TV its not gonna be as easy as The armed forces first thought!

If a shitty pocket of 200 Iraqi troops can hold up an entire army for over 7 hours then I am sure when the troops get to Baghdad its gonna get a helluva lot tougher!

For or Against the war it makes no difference now. None of us have the power to stop it so get used to it!!!

this is very true, but i don't think cross-referencing w/ local affiliates will help much... the american news media has become so controlled and homogenized, i think you have to take a look at world news from other countries to get any clear picture at all..

Accusing me of supporting Nazi's deserves a retarded response.

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Who said you supported Nazi's? Not I. I know how intelligent you are, so I assumed you would have had no troubles understanding my statement. Would you like me to break it down for you?

Hint: the statement was referring to your choice of inaction.