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gripcash 03-19-2003 01:36 PM

Epassporte - Same visa headaches
 
Everybody's been suggesting that epassporte is the solution to Paypal pulling out of adult. Nobody denies paypal pulled out of adult because visa forced them to. Why should Epassporte be any different?

I give them 2 months. Willing to place bets.

Rand 03-19-2003 01:40 PM

How much?

notjoe 03-19-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gripcash
Everybody's been suggesting that epassporte is the solution to Paypal pulling out of adult. Nobody denies paypal pulled out of adult because visa forced them to. Why should Epassporte be any different?

I give them 2 months. Willing to place bets.


I'm willing to bet you are right also!

p00p 03-19-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand
How much?
he he.....

andi_germany 03-19-2003 01:43 PM

I believe epassporte is based in Curacao and not the US. So it is not bound by VISA US regulation.

notjoe 03-19-2003 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andi_germany
I believe epassporte is based in Curacao and not the US. So it is not bound by VISA US regulation.

Only a matter of time before VISA Int. lays down the smack

Rand 03-19-2003 01:47 PM

Think about how long PayPal was really in the adult business. A year? A little more? My guess would be that they did not know how to manage it, and, that they got out for PR purposes.

Whatever the reason, one processor has nothing to do with the other.

:2 cents:

Rich 03-19-2003 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gripcash
Everybody's been suggesting that epassporte is the solution to Paypal pulling out of adult. Nobody denies paypal pulled out of adult because visa forced them to. Why should Epassporte be any different?

I give them 2 months. Willing to place bets.


Quote:

Originally posted by Rand
How much?
:thumbsup


Time to put up or shut up now, gripcash.

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 01:48 PM

epassport has their game on lock

why whine, if they are going to go down, they are going to go down, nothing more you can do

profit while you can in this business, then move on to the next.

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 01:49 PM

i'll put some bets down

if you have $50,000 to put in an escrow, i'll throw it against ya

and i am sure kimmy and a few others at epoch will match my bet and raise you $400,000 :)

Rand 03-19-2003 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SextrafficPete
i'll put some bets down

if you have $50,000 to put in an escrow, i'll throw it against ya

and i am sure kimmy and a few others at epoch will match my bet and raise you $400,000 :)



:thumbsup

superweb 03-19-2003 01:52 PM

EP's Visa Electron doesen't work at most PIN based merchants here(almost at no gas station), I haven't found content possible to pay for by their virtual Visa, which is rejected by almost evryone. Maybe they should do some fixes before selling their product. It looks like, that it's in beta test, but it isn't.
Stats on their site is full of errors(for example, $450 - 106 CZK = $344(don't shave money, just stats error). I've heard from some of my friends, that they had blocked their account without any reason. Last month they charged me twice for one transaction, saying, that the mrchant precharged me & then charged me second time & that the first transaction will be canceled in 30 days. That's Visa's rule according to their words, but why my bank never did it, when it's Visa's rule & not EP fault?
Sorry, but i haven't seen such a unprofessional product released online since the "dot com boom" ended.

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 01:53 PM

once you understand the concept of epassport, and the banking structure, and everything factors in you will understand it is a different and better setup than paypal

sextoyking 03-19-2003 01:53 PM

Epassporte should do ok. I would suggest getting your atm / pin card upgraded though so you can make POS purchases without a pin code. Just like a visa check / debit card.

I hear the paypal mastercard is real popular.

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 01:55 PM

remember how flawed old windows os's were when they first came out, they are still around, still making billions

Epoch 03-19-2003 01:55 PM

Someone help me, where has it been stated that VISA made Paypal stop processing adult?

Could it be that Paypal made this decision on their own?

Clay
EPOCH

http://www.epochsystems.com/images/epass_120x60.gif

sextoyking 03-19-2003 01:57 PM

Clay,

Paypal stopped on there own. New Owners, Republican Admin, PR reasons, etc, etc.

Epoch 03-19-2003 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Clay,

Paypal stopped on there own. New Owners, Republican Admin, PR reasons, etc, etc.

Exactly.

Clay

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:00 PM

i think what may be wise since alot of people are optimistic is epoch go on a few radio shows, and start a few threads on the boards and totaly explain how epassport works , and how they are solidly structured and more people will understand

would be the good route to go down

Kimmykim 03-19-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe



Only a matter of time before VISA Int. lays down the smack

Talking out ya ass again? I love it.

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:01 PM

Like talking to a rock.

sextoyking 03-19-2003 02:02 PM

Clay, Epoch,

don't take this wrong, but for awhile I have been thinking you might consider changing the name from epassporte to something a little easier. If this is going to be small and just for adult, well then it's ok. but if you plan on alot of market share, that name is hard to remember, and for alot the spelling will be tough.

Look at pete, he just spelled it, epassport, as many will spell that way.

thanks

Todd

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:02 PM

Grip,

So we're at i'd say about $450,000.00 USD bet

care to take it? or care to research more and understand that epassport will stay around, and does work and benefit our industry greatly.

Rand 03-19-2003 02:04 PM

Good suggestion STP.

We do have some ideas about getting the good word out.

Anyone who has a question you think should be addressed please drop me a line.
Epassporte can learn as much from your questions as WM's do from the answers.


http://www.epochsystems.com/images/epass_120x60.gif

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:04 PM

todd,

i'm just drunk :Graucho
*kidding*

but yeah, i know there is an e at the end, i just don't want to french it out hehe

nocostporn 03-19-2003 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SextrafficPete
Grip,

So we're at i'd say about $450,000.00 USD bet

care to take it? or care to research more and understand that epassport will stay around, and does work and benefit our industry greatly.


:eek7 .. I think you're betting money for people that don't have it lol ...

and Yeah paypal didn't get "shutdown",they basically backed out.
epassporte should be solid for the long term since a lot of people involved are actually in the adult business as well...Paypal really wasn't and therefore really didn't give a fuck

sextoyking 03-19-2003 02:05 PM

I know Pete,

but others might make a spelling mistake quite a bit.

I see they own epassport.com also, so mabey more branding with that domain :)

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:06 PM

Heres a question,

If i am moving large amounts of funds through your services and i decide to cash my account out, can i show up at your office and have all the hundreds stacked and counted in a black briefcase in under 24 hours?

And if so, what is the surcharge, and don't tell me you want a vig for the briefcase. Business expense.

Kimmykim 03-19-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
I see they own epassport.com also, so mabey more branding with that domain :)

Todd honey, you know I love you, but you spelled maybe wrong.

Kimmykim 03-19-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SextrafficPete
Heres a question,

If i am moving large amounts of funds through your services and i decide to cash my account out, can i show up at your office and have all the hundreds stacked and counted in a black briefcase in under 24 hours?

And if so, what is the surcharge, and don't tell me you want a vig for the briefcase. Business expense.

You gotta get across the border first you know ;)

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:08 PM

Fuck, is this a spelling bee or a chat board?

I'm lost:winkwink:

sextoyking 03-19-2003 02:10 PM

Kimmy,

I spelled epassport.com wrong?

Looks like you guys own it?

Landhuis Joonchi - Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n

P.O. Box 837

Curacao,

AN



Domain name: EPASSPORT.COM



Administrative Contact:

Elias, Gregory [email protected]

P.O. Box 837

Curacao,

AN

599-9-7366277 Fax: 599-9-7366161



Technical Contact:

Elias, Gregory [email protected]

P.O. Box 837

Curacao,

AN

599-9-7366277 Fax: 599-9-7366161

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:12 PM

Kimmykim,

I'll hide in your shoe suitcase :)

Kimmykim 03-19-2003 02:13 PM

It goes to the exact same place Todd :)

Kimmykim 03-19-2003 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SextrafficPete
Kimmykim,

I'll hide in your shoe suitcase :)

But what will I do with all my shoes?

sextoyking 03-19-2003 02:19 PM

Kimmy,

I know it does :)

Just saying for branding purpose, mabey not use the E at the end??


np :)

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:20 PM

we'll sell them on ebay

i'll get a astin martin db7 from it

& i'll even throw in some good deep dickin for ya :1orglaugh

Nickatilynx 03-19-2003 02:21 PM

So STP just wandered into my office and said there was some easy .money to be made here! :)


Quote:

But what will I do with all my shoes?
I'll get Manny to carry them

SextrafficPete 03-19-2003 02:27 PM

easy money

only if your ass up baby!

MaxDent 03-19-2003 02:29 PM

I checked out their website and called them. I was told that they are rebuilding their website and from what I gather it is like a prepaid phone card, you put money into the account and then use it. I don't know if this will fly with surfers.


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