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wehateporn 07-20-2015 03:21 PM

Entrepreneurs don?t have a special gene for risk?they come from families with money
 

We?re in an era of the cult of the entrepreneur. We analyze the Tory Burches and Evan Spiegels of the world looking for a magic formula or set of personality traits that lead to success. Entrepreneurship is on the rise, and more students coming out of business schools are choosing startup life over Wall Street.

But what often gets lost in these conversations is that the most common shared trait among entrepreneurs is access to financial capital?family money, an inheritance, or a pedigree and connections that allow for access to financial stability. While it seems that entrepreneurs tend to have an admirable penchant for risk, it?s usually that access to money which allows them to take risks.

And this is a key advantage: When basic needs are met, it?s easier to be creative; when you know you have a safety net, you are more willing to take risks. ?Many other researchers have replicated the finding that entrepreneurship is more about cash than dash,? University of Warwick professor Andrew Oswald tells Quartz. ?Genes probably matter, as in most things in life, but not much.?

University of California, Berkeley economists Ross Levine and Rona Rubenstein analyzed the shared traits of entrepreneurs in a 2013 paper, and found that most were white, male, and highly educated. ?If one does not have money in the form of a family with money, the chances of becoming an entrepreneur drop quite a bit,? Levine tells Quartz.

Continued http://qz.com/455109/entrepreneurs-d...es-with-money/

MaDalton 07-20-2015 03:25 PM

it's not the money, it's being a living example that you can achieve goals. when you are a fucking lazy bum that lives from government benefits, how can your children learn from that?

but there are enough people that are proof that when you work hard you can be successful even when you don't come from a family with money

MiamiBoyz 07-20-2015 03:32 PM

Not the pathetic ass family that I come from - bunch of fuckng losers that they are!

Hi Mom and Dad!

ilnjscb 07-20-2015 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20528827)
it's not the money, it's being a living example that you can achieve goals. when you are a fucking lazy bum that lives from government benefits, how can your children learn from that?

but there are enough people that are proof that when you work hard you can be successful even when you don't come from a family with money

Yeah... some of that may be true, but its also the money.

dyna mo 07-20-2015 04:44 PM

according to the research, it's the money.

candidpro 07-20-2015 10:19 PM

This is something I noticed a long time ago, a lot of the people I looked up to that started a successful business had parents that were doctors or lawyers.

It just makes you realize it's true when they say "it takes money to make money"

L-Pink 07-20-2015 11:07 PM

I had grandparents that loaned me $75,000 with a $50,000 letter of credit when I was 23. I paid them back when I was 25. Hard work made the business succeed but capital got it started.

$5 submissions 07-21-2015 03:28 AM

It's more about being openminded enough to push the boundaries and go beyond your comfort zone.

it takes a lot of FAITH in your vision to be an entrepreneur.

You often have to burn your boats behind you so you can get the RESOLVE you need to keep pushing forward.

Nothing genetic about that.

That's purely LEARNED behavior.

sarah_teamcmp 07-21-2015 06:30 AM

My parents lived under the poverty line for most of my childhood, but they were in business for themselves and I'm proud of them. That being said, they didn't ever get the proper startup capital and struggled to compete. It's no surprise 3/4 of their children work for the government now :P

nextri 07-21-2015 07:25 AM

no reward without risk

Barry-xlovecam 07-21-2015 07:41 AM

Good excuse ...
Their family got the money how?
The money didn't fall from the sky.

That said, education allows for opportunity. Parents of means can afford to educate their children -- get it?

12clicks 07-21-2015 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20528822)

We?re in an era of the cult of the entrepreneur. We analyze the Tory Burches and Evan Spiegels of the world looking for a magic formula or set of personality traits that lead to success. Entrepreneurship is on the rise, and more students coming out of business schools are choosing startup life over Wall Street.

But what often gets lost in these conversations is that the most common shared trait among entrepreneurs is access to financial capital?family money, an inheritance, or a pedigree and connections that allow for access to financial stability. While it seems that entrepreneurs tend to have an admirable penchant for risk, it?s usually that access to money which allows them to take risks.

And this is a key advantage: When basic needs are met, it?s easier to be creative; when you know you have a safety net, you are more willing to take risks. ?Many other researchers have replicated the finding that entrepreneurship is more about cash than dash,? University of Warwick professor Andrew Oswald tells Quartz. ?Genes probably matter, as in most things in life, but not much.?

University of California, Berkeley economists Ross Levine and Rona Rubenstein analyzed the shared traits of entrepreneurs in a 2013 paper, and found that most were white, male, and highly educated. ?If one does not have money in the form of a family with money, the chances of becoming an entrepreneur drop quite a bit,? Levine tells Quartz.

Continued Entrepreneurs don’t have a special gene for riskâ??they come from families with money - Quartz

ahahaha. the BS never stops.

12clicks 07-21-2015 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20528894)
Yeah... some of that may be true, but its also the money.

believing that is what keeps you on the bottom.:2 cents:

12clicks 07-21-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20529445)
Good excuse ...
Their family got the money how?
The money didn't fall from the sky.

exactly. go back to the generation that became wealthy and you'll see they started with nothing, worked hard, were shrewd, and never lost sight of the prize.
Darwin demands that the cream rise and the bottom dies off.
We've simply been fucking too much with darwin through our generosity towards the bottom.

bronco67 07-21-2015 09:10 AM

Sounds like someone likes to paint with broad strokes.

mineistaken 07-21-2015 11:12 AM

Not really. It is a trait that you can see from the young age - when a kid is hustling (in a good way) like selling something, buying low selling higher etc etc. Like selling chocolates at school, whatever. This trait has nothing to do with money.

BUT. Money helps of course.

Lets say you take 100 entrepreneurs with family money and 100 entrepreneurs without family money. Lets say all of them are equally intelligent and equally "entrepreneurish".

Of course those from money will get higher results because money definitely helps to kickstart everything faster.

But entrepreneurship "gene" can be born in poor families as well.
Of course with wealthy families kid has more examples of making money, that helps motivation. Or even helps because he naturally starts thinking "I should do something as well". Examples encourage.

blackmonsters 07-21-2015 11:29 AM

Lots of web developers started with no money; they illegally downloaded photoshop, illustrator and Flash to save thousands of dollars.

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 07-21-2015 11:42 AM

Elon Musk's mom on raising the Businessperson of the Year - Fortune

Elon Musk's parents were not rich just educated solid middle class ...

crockett 07-21-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20528894)
Yeah... some of that may be true, but its also the money.

Money just makes it easier becaus you don't have to focus on how to get the money to do what you are trying to do. You just do it. You can still start with nothing, but it's much, much harder..

The thing that gets me with the whole "start up" thing which plagues us, is none of these guys are worried about their start up "making money". They are worried about finding investors and getting it popular then selling it off for a profit.

It's amazing that that trend has been going on this long, like its a legitimate business model. To me it's just like the housing market, where they keep putting people into $300k homes whom can only afford a $100k home at best..

It's just a matter of time before it all crashes again.. It's like everything is just a big Ponzi scam, just sucking money out of fools hands..

SilentKnight 07-21-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20529698)
Lots of web developers started with no money; they illegally downloaded photoshop, illustrator and Flash to save thousands of dollars.

:1orglaugh

You base this assertion on...?

blackmonsters 07-21-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20529850)
You base this assertion on...?

The number of Mofo's who posted saying they had to buy them now.

:1orglaugh

SilentKnight 07-21-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20529931)
The number of Mofo's who posted saying they had to buy them now.

:1orglaugh

Good that you kept a tally that way.

ilnjscb 07-22-2015 06:22 AM

Are you talking abut statistics or comforting anecdotes? Yes there are people who started poor with poor parents who became successful. They are just a lot rarer than people who became successful entrepreneurs who had wealthy or upper middle families. In fact, most research shows that poverty negates the value of a high IQ. Some people also win the lottery - does that mean they should open a business school and advocate everyone sitting on their asses and buying lottery tickets?

bronco67 07-22-2015 06:31 AM

Being poor is a better motivator than being already rich. I call bullshit.

12clicks 07-22-2015 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20530465)
Are you talking abut statistics or comforting anecdotes? Yes there are people who started poor with poor parents who became successful. They are just a lot rarer than people who became successful entrepreneurs who had wealthy or upper middle families. In fact, most research shows that poverty negates the value of a high IQ. Some people also win the lottery - does that mean they should open a business school and advocate everyone sitting on their asses and buying lottery tickets?

so you advocate sitting on your ass and NOT trying?
EVERY successful family at one time wasn't. You can settle for being a lemming or you can try to succeed.
There's no harm in settling as long as you don't bitch and whine about those who didn't.

Best-In-BC 07-22-2015 07:52 AM

Pure horse shit IMO

MrPay 07-22-2015 08:15 AM

Have a look at this article. I find such way of looking at it pretty unique. You can agree or not but some statements make totally sense.

» Face It: You’re NOT An Entrepreneur

A lady on this recording was talking about her business and Tony asked her,

“Would you ever sell it? I mean, if someone offered you money right now?”

Her answer was a fast and resounding,

“No!”

“Then you’re not an entrepreneur,” Tony said. “You’re an artist.”

……



The question is—who are you REALLY? Because when you understand and embrace that, you’ll find yourself in state of flow a lot more often. Resistance of who you are is the quickest way to misery.

The article is a good read with examples.

Paul Markham 07-22-2015 08:48 AM

Most people with money have a drive to make more. This is their culture and that's what gets passed on.

Having money and no drive = ruin.
Having drive and no money = opportunity.

There are enough lottery winners now bankrupt, and enough people who started with nothing now millionaires, to confirm my theory.

It's more about what your parents install in you, rather than what they give you.

MassMarketing 07-22-2015 09:06 AM

I started hustling when I was very young. Selling candy, then other things. Started businesses left and right, never taking in capital from anyone. Had no family money to tap..

takethebluepill 07-22-2015 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20529533)
Sounds like someone likes to paint with broad strokes.

:thumbsup

ilnjscb 07-23-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20530517)
so you advocate sitting on your ass and NOT trying?
EVERY successful family at one time wasn't. You can settle for being a lemming or you can try to succeed.
There's no harm in settling as long as you don't bitch and whine about those who didn't.

how does stating a well attested truth become an recommendation for laziness? In the mind of 12clicks! Thats how!

IMHO you should try as hard as you possibly can - rage, rage against the hand you were dealt. But acknowledge the truth. See how you can do both?

pornguy 07-23-2015 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20528894)
Yeah... some of that may be true, but its also the money.

Nahh not really. Its the drive to make the money.

Rochard 07-23-2015 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20528827)
it's not the money

It's the money.

If you give someone a large sum of money and tell them to open up a profit generating business with no or little risk for them, chances are they could do it and would do it.

12clicks 07-23-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20531508)
how does stating a well attested truth become an recommendation for laziness? In the mind of 12clicks! Thats how!

Perhaps it was the lottery reference, silly punk.

12clicks 07-23-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20531568)
It's the money.

If you give someone a large sum of money and tell them to open up a profit generating business with no or little risk for them, chances are they could do it and would do it.

Incorrect.
The ones with no head for business would fail.
The adult internet is a perfect example. It WAS like hitting the lottery if you got here early. Sadly, 99.999% of those people didn't have a head for business and are no longer here.

It's ALL about ability

TheSquealer 07-23-2015 12:18 PM

the last thing losers want to admit is that hard work and determination can take you where you want to go in life.

JFK 07-23-2015 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20529074)
This is something I noticed a long time ago, a lot of the people I looked up to that started a successful business had parents that were doctors or lawyers.

It just makes you realize it's true when they say "it takes money to make money"

OR, they were brought up to be responsible, business minded ?:2 cents:

MaDalton 07-23-2015 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20531568)
It's the money.

If you give someone a large sum of money and tell them to open up a profit generating business with no or little risk for them, chances are they could do it and would do it.

my family had no money, my starting capital for this company was 6 months 60% of my previous income from a special program from the german unemployement office for people that want to become self employed and my mother gave me 1000 ? so i could attend Internext Miami 2004

12 years later i am not filthy rich but i think our company still does very well as content producers in this times of this business

and i don't need to work for others for additional income

:2 cents:

Paul Markham 07-24-2015 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20531568)
It's the money.

If you give someone a large sum of money and tell them to open up a profit generating business with no or little risk for them, chances are they could do it and would do it.

And lose the money very fast.

I was in a business with little risk, needed limited skills, and a constant demand, and did very well. Can't start to list the number of people who tried it and went broke trying to do the same.

ilnjscb 07-25-2015 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20531858)
my family had no money, my starting capital for this company was 6 months 60% of my previous income from a special program from the german unemployement office for people that want to become self employed and my mother gave me 1000 ? so i could attend Internext Miami 2004

12 years later i am not filthy rich but i think our company still does very well as content producers in this times of this business

and i don't need to work for others for additional income

:2 cents:

Respect for you my brother but you are one person and one story. The simple fact is most successful entrepreneurs come from some money.


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