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Scott McD 10-23-2014 10:08 AM

Done with VHS. Are we done with DVD ??
 
Just filled a box with loads of DVD's that i haven't watched in ages, so guessing i won't miss them when they are gone. With Netflix and other ways and means of watching movies at home now, the DVD collection i had seemed to do nothing more than take up space. I have kept some separate (and have a more than a few blu-rays), but the rest i will be giving to the local charity shop.

I can remember years ago having the VHS clear out. Didn't think i'd be having the DVD clear out so soon after... :upsidedow


Anyone else done the same ??

Sly 10-23-2014 10:13 AM

Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

I do everything digital now. Occasionally a Blu-ray for a movie that I think might be worth it. Love Plex.

Scott McD 10-23-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20263779)
Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

Yeah i suppose they have been around a while :winkwink:

I remember at the time though thinking they would last for many, many years...

PAR 10-23-2014 10:18 AM

Haven't used a DVD in well over 5 years. *other than for the odd PS3 game

Ross 10-23-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20263779)
Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

I do everything digital now. Occasionally a Blu-ray for a movie that I think might be worth it. Love Plex.

Im about to get started with Plex but I hear great things about it. From now on I will also be doing digital on my PS4, it pisses me off that they charge more for a digital copy as opposed to a hard copy, you'd think it would be the same or cheaper.

Choopa Phil 10-23-2014 10:28 AM

DVD has been out for well over 20 years! Time flys when you get older hahah

DamageX 10-23-2014 10:31 AM

Was never really a big movie watcher, so no DVD's here. But it took me until last year to get rid of my huge CD collection. I had all the music on my hard drive already. Hell, most of them I hadn't even bothered to rip to mp3 myself, I just downloaded them online.

I had realized I hadn't touched any of them in at least 10 years a few years ago already. Could just not part with it, until I could no longer justify the space it took.

just a punk 10-23-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20263765)
Done with VHS. Are we done with DVD ??

I thought it happened a long time ago. Even Blu-Ray is dead for years.

stopitbrrruce 10-23-2014 10:45 AM

If I'm renting, I'll rent digitally from Amazon or the cable company.

But if it's a movie I really loved, like a Tarantino movie or something, I'm buying that on Blu-ray. I like having a collection of physical media that I like, displayed in my living room for visitor to see.

Regarding actual Adult DVD sales, I think my colleague Colin said it best:

"Judging by our DVD sales numbers, it will be a very long time [before we are done with DVD]. We have VOD options that are much cheaper than the physical discs, but the collectors aren't interested. They only want DVD's or Blu-rays, and they don't care that there's a cheaper option."

The Porn Nerd 10-23-2014 10:46 AM

Yeah but what about those 'DVD extras'? You know, bonus scenes, alternate takes, commentary, etc? Do they have that shit on Netflix, too?

I am so old. I am going to go play a Doris Day 78 record now. Those 33 1/3 "albums" are just a fad.

JFK 10-23-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20263829)
Yeah but what about those 'DVD extras'? You know, bonus scenes, alternate takes, commentary, etc? Do they have that shit on Netflix, too?

I am so old. I am going to go play a Doris Day 78 record now. Those 33 1/3 "albums" are just a fad.

I have 3D TV, so I do buy DVD's when they come out in the format I like:thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 10-23-2014 10:51 AM

You should keep them in case Netflix goes down ...

Scott McD 10-23-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20263811)
I thought it happened a long time ago. Even Blu-Ray is dead for years.

I wouldn't say Blu-Ray was dead... :2 cents:

3D on the other hand..........

BlackCrayon 10-23-2014 10:58 AM

i still buy certain dvds like series i've been collecting for years, ie the simpsons, south park, etc. though they rarely get watched. i can't part with all my cds either. i never listen to them but i spent so much money on them and have such a huge collection..i just can't do it. as for what i actually watch and listen to, its all digital.

just a punk 10-23-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20263842)
I wouldn't say Blu-Ray was dead... :2 cents:

Blu-Ray is a 20th century technology. It's a mechanical one. Modern technologies are fully digital. A slim plastic card which is less than the nail, it can hold more information than a monster-sized Blu-Ray disk, it works faster, it does not use all those big and noisy and electricity consuming motors and lasers, it doesn't afraid of dust and scratches, it can be re-written again and again and costs just a few bucks. Blu-Ray is dead.

MrBottomTooth 10-23-2014 11:10 AM

If you want the very best in quality there is still no substitute for Blu-ray. Sure, you can go on thepiratebay and download some full Blu-ray rips, but very few of them are uncompressed, other than occasionally when you see 1 or 2 versions of the major releases.

I think anyone running a very large screen and surround sound system would want a fully uncompressed version, whether they rip it to their hard drive or not in the end.

I'm not up on how the legal digital downloads work, but I'm guessing they probably don't offer the 40 to 50 GB downloads you would get if you ripped a Blu-ray 1:1 directly to your computer/media server.

Most are going to be h264 compressed and some won't even include DTS Master Audio tracks. I can just imagine how badly they compress these movies on services like Netflix, etc.

just a punk 10-23-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20263850)
i still buy certain dvds like series i've been collecting for years, ie the simpsons, south park, etc. though they rarely get watched. i can't part with all my cds either. i never listen to them but i spent so much money on them and have such a huge collection..i just can't do it. as for what i actually watch and listen to, its all digital.

I've stopped buying optical disks about 5 years ago. Now I don't have a disk-reader device in my desktop PC at all :2 cents:

_Richard_ 10-23-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20263861)
If you want the very best in quality there is still no substitute for Blu-ray. Sure, you can go on thepiratebay and download some full Blu-ray rips, but very few of them are uncompressed, other than occasionally when you see 1 or 2 versions of the major releases.

I think anyone running a very large screen and surround sound system would want a fully uncompressed version, whether they rip it to their hard drive or not in the end.

I'm not up on how the legal digital downloads work, but I'm guessing they probably don't offer the 40 to 50 GB downloads you would get if you ripped a Blu-ray 1:1 directly to your computer/media server.

Most are going to be h264 compressed and some won't even include DTS Master Audio tracks. I can just imagine how badly they compress these movies on services like Netflix, etc.

:2 cents:

also coming with 4k / 8k next year

MrBottomTooth 10-23-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20263867)
:2 cents:

also coming with 4k / 8k next year

Ya, how are they going to handle that I wonder? It's still a luxury to get unlimited bandwidth internet in some areas. I can just imagine the disk space / bandwidth one of those will eat up.

EonBlue 10-23-2014 11:35 AM

Remember when CDs came out? They were supposed to kill vinyl. More and more stuff is coming out on vinyl again. Amazon even has the "CDs and Vinyl" category.

But I guess vinyl is a special case for music because I don't see VHS ever coming back in the same way.

I think DVD is still here for a while though.




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Rochard 10-23-2014 11:37 AM

We still use DVD often enough.

My kid goes to the movies, likes something, and wants it when it comes out on DVD. I also like to watch an entire series all at once, and that's usually on DVD. We have Netflix and Amazon Prime but they don't usually have what I want.

Rochard 10-23-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20263914)
Remember when CDs came out? They were supposed to kill vinyl. More and more stuff is coming out on vinyl again. Amazon even has the "CDs and Vinyl" category.

But I guess vinyl is a special case for music because I don't see VHS ever coming back in the same way.

I think DVD is still here for a while though.
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Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

EonBlue 10-23-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20263924)
Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

I know it won't come back into the mainstream. But the record companies probably make decent money from it because the purists will actually pay for the music on vinyl versus almost everyone else who downloads shitty mp3s for free.




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Sly 10-23-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20263924)
Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

Last year vinyl was the only music medium with growth and the largest vinyl maker in the country is building out a new factory 4 times their current size.

Come back? No, but it's not dead either. It's no longer a handful of purists. It's a boutique market with plenty going on.

Captain Kawaii 10-23-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stopitbrrruce (Post 20263826)
If I'm renting, I'll rent digitally from Amazon or the cable company.

But if it's a movie I really loved, like a Tarantino movie or something, I'm buying that on Blu-ray. I like having a collection of physical media that I like, displayed in my living room for visitor to see.

Regarding actual Adult DVD sales, I think my colleague Colin said it best:

"Judging by our DVD sales numbers, it will be a very long time [before we are done with DVD]. We have VOD options that are much cheaper than the physical discs, but the collectors aren't interested. They only want DVD's or Blu-rays, and they don't care that there's a cheaper option."

People do not understand all of the markets. You are absolutely 1000% correct. IN last 6 hours alone more than $2000.00 in DVD and blu-rays orders for us.

Our main supplier, collects more than $80 BILLION per year across all their lines of business, DVD and non. When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

To the OP, you should be selling your discs on GEMM if they are not porn. You are pissing money away otherwise. :2 cents:

DamianJ 10-23-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20263765)
Just filled a box with loads of DVD's that i haven't watched in ages, so guessing i won't miss them when they are gone. With Netflix and other ways and means of watching movies at home now, the DVD collection i had seemed to do nothing more than take up space. I have kept some separate (and have a more than a few blu-rays), but the rest i will be giving to the local charity shop.

I can remember years ago having the VHS clear out. Didn't think i'd be having the DVD clear out so soon after... :upsidedow


Anyone else done the same ??

Totally. Physical media is completely dead to me. Spotify for music, netflix, iplayer etc for video and Plex with all my ripped stuff on a NAS.

The Porn Nerd 10-23-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20263938)
Last year vinyl was the only music medium with growth and the largest vinyl maker in the country is building out a new factory 4 times their current size.

Come back? No, but it's not dead either. It's no longer a handful of purists. It's a boutique market with plenty going on.

New vinyl pressings are going for $25 a disc. Remember when they were $6.95? LOL

So someone is buying them. I just wonder, because of the mixing and engineering now, if new 'albums' by new artists on vinyl sound as good as the classic LPs do. Different studio techniques, everything mixed so 'hot' nowadays (over the red line), makes me wonder.

But The White Album is still a must on vinyl. :)

Sly 10-23-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20264063)
New vinyl pressings are going for $25 a disc. Remember when they were $6.95? LOL

So someone is buying them. I just wonder, because of the mixing and engineering now, if new 'albums' by new artists on vinyl sound as good as the classic LPs do. Different studio techniques, everything mixed so 'hot' nowadays (over the red line), makes me wonder.

But The White Album is still a must on vinyl. :)

From what I have read, the new vinyls can sound good like the old ones but it depends on how they printed it and the quality of the print. A vinyl does not simply mean it's great quality because it can be done in a poor quality fashion, if that makes sense.

The Porn Nerd 10-23-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20264120)
From what I have read, the new vinyls can sound good like the old ones but it depends on how they printed it and the quality of the print. A vinyl does not simply mean it's great quality because it can be done in a poor quality fashion, if that makes sense.

It does. But I meant the sound of the actual recording. I realize you can go from complete crap re-pressed vinyl to "virgin" vinyl so clear you can see through it which can affect audio quality. But I meant how records (CDs?) are recorded today. They are recorded with digital in mind, and ever since 2000 or so there's been a "noise war" with ever-increasing high ends. The 'red line' peaks and you can hear pops and squeeks. Basically almost everything recorded after 2000 sounds like complete shit, especially "Remasters".

So I wonder how these new recordings sound on vinyl. I should get out my old Technics turntable. LOL

NatalieK 10-23-2014 03:03 PM

Maybe for a lot of webmasters, online media is common & dvd is not used. But keeping it real, yes, dvd is still used by many people & shall be both available & used for many years to come :2 cents:

SilentKnight 10-23-2014 08:11 PM

I still have over 1,000 VHS tapes here in the office, mostly original camera footage from the 80s and 90s. Friends, family, trips...all kinds of events and stuff we did back in the day. We always had the camera with us.

I've copied some of the stuff onto DVD - but only a fraction so far. It's time consuming and tedious. But it needs to be done for preservation. I'm sure the old VHS is beginning to show its age.

But there's so much footage of old friends and family...kickass parties...people I'll never see again, but still remember fondly.

Really need to find the time and inclincation...before the tapes deteriorate too far.

SBJ 10-23-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20264191)
Maybe for a lot of webmasters, online media is common & dvd is not used. But keeping it real, yes, dvd is still used by many people & shall be both available & used for many years to come :2 cents:

Yes.. I think netflix is a joke cause most of the new movies aren't available for streaming for mos after it is released. I do stream movies from amazon from time to time but I much prefer blu rays.

I own around 100 blu rays and about 450 dvds. I rent blu rays locally at Family Video and sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

MPGdevil 10-24-2014 12:04 AM

When the sun one day kill electricity for a month, I'm glad I kept my porn magazines from the 80'ies.

Look Chang 10-24-2014 06:19 AM

Same time, vinyl records sales are increasing !

Listening music from vinyl on a decent home sound system comparing to mp3 on earphones are two different worlds.

NatalieK 10-24-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20264498)
sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

This is a great idea, especially as you can build a genuine collection of movies, watchable anytime & any place, such a good price, I bet many people buy & then sell after just a few weeks too :thumbsup

InfoGuy 10-25-2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20263941)
People do not understand all of the markets. You are absolutely 1000% correct. IN last 6 hours alone more than $2000.00 in DVD and blu-rays orders for us.

Our main supplier, collects more than $80 BILLION per year across all their lines of business, DVD and non. When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

I agree DVD sales are far from being dead, but $80 billion is hard to believe considering entertainment giant Disney only has trailing 12 month revenues of $48 billion. If you're referring to Amazon's trailing 12 month revenues of $82 billion, that includes plenty of products that are not entertainment related.

SBJ 10-25-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20265187)
This is a great idea, especially as you can build a genuine collection of movies, watchable anytime & any place, such a good price, I bet many people buy & then sell after just a few weeks too :thumbsup

ya blockbuster use to do the same thing back when they had retail stores. Rental places buy a ton of big new releases for rental and then sell off excess copies after the demand slows down.

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20263941)
When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

dvd maybe but discs like blu ray or 4k will still be around for a longtime.

How much bandwidth would it take to stream a 4k full length movie? I don't think internet providers will keep offering unlimited BW for home for very much longer. Who is going to pay $100+ a month internet bills to stream movies.

Captain Kawaii 10-25-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 20266155)
I agree DVD sales are far from being dead, but $80 billion is hard to believe considering entertainment giant Disney only has trailing 12 month revenues of $48 billion. If you're referring to Amazon's trailing 12 month revenues of $82 billion, that includes plenty of products that are not entertainment related.

Hi
You are absolutely right about not being all for entertainment or dvd for that matter. But its a smart thinking company with many lines of business. Every month in Tokyo there are hundreds of releases. The volume is staggering. The long slide to nil is happening but it will be a long slow slide. DVD is still preferred adult medium here. You pay in cash to a store on the other side of town and Oila you got porn! You can buy DVDs and blu-rays for 5 bucks up to $100+ for the specialty stuff. And seemingly studios cannot pump it out fast enough. Making a farting video is not cheap apparently.

Imagine being a vertically integrated business with many product lines and services. I can't say more but its a refreshing way to think about how to make things work in entertainment and adult. Diversity. Audiences crave it but not so many deliver it in the west as effectively as Asians do. Some smart motherfuckers.

I liken it to the comedian Steve Allen who said "I always have 14 jobs going. When 7 or 8 are sucking, I still have 7 or 8 more." Remember him? He's the guy who could take 2-3 notes and turn it into a song on the spot on live tv.

BTW, Disney Tokyo is really great too. I am kinda conflicted with Disney, their politics etc but once I'm on the Star Wars ride for the 5th time in 2 hours...I just don't care.

Sly 10-25-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20264498)
Yes.. I think netflix is a joke cause most of the new movies aren't available for streaming for mos after it is released. I do stream movies from amazon from time to time but I much prefer blu rays.

I own around 100 blu rays and about 450 dvds. I rent blu rays locally at Family Video and sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

You rent Blu Rays for a few dollars a pop but you think Netflix is a joke at $10 a month?

For $10 a month, you cannot beat Netflix. Whether or not they have the latest movies has nothing to do with it. Massive archive of great TV shows, documentaries, older (slightly) movies, and exclusive TV shows.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

brassmonkey 10-25-2014 07:49 AM

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